How profitable is referring others to HubPages?

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   02SmithAposted 16 years ago

   I just started hubbing and I was wondering if those who had been here a while could let me know what kind of results they have had with the referral program? Has anyone tried running advertisements with their hubpage url anywhere? What kind of results did that get? Thanks!

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   Whitney05posted 16 years ago

   I leave a link to HP in my signature in a few forums with the tracker in it. I've gotten a few signups that way, but they don't post hubs, so those people aren't making me any money. I believe SunSeven has a TON of referrals most with tons of published hubs, so I'm sure she's making a bit with that, but I'm not sure how she's doing it. I post referral links when sending them to people or in yahoo answers and stuff like that, but I don't get many signups that actually publish hubs. Or if they do, it'll be a few steady hubs and then they stop.

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   thranaxposted 16 years ago

   Well, you get 10% of everyone you refers impressions. So basically for 10 page views your recruitment gets, you get 1 page of ads, they get 6 pages of ads, and Hubpages gets 3 pages of ads. If they click an ad when its your random time then you get the click+money. The percentage is multiplied by getting more people and by the amount of Hubs they write and the amount of traffic they generate to it. In turn over time if you have 3 "low level" Hubbers with low traffic and 1 "Powerhouse" Getting 2,000 views a month then you will have it ad up if you get lucky and its your roll. Say total, the 3 low levels get 400 page views and the powerhouse gets 2,000. Thats 2,400 page views total, divide that by 10 and thats 240 page views of your ads. So if on this 240 pages you get clicks your lucky. But with a number like 240 you SHOULD be able to get at least 1-3 clicks if your powerhouse can get a lot of clicks (and your low levels can get like 1 click on your ads). Its all probability. And its luck, remember even with 3,000 page views you may never get a single click on anything.
   
   Get referrals and get a lot of them. If you think about it if you have 10 active Hubbers then you get  100% of the ads per day (I just like thinking like this, it really isn't like that but its a nice thought)
   
   What I'm really trying to say is, get as many places your ads will display as possible.

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      Kami Dearposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Again very helpfull and informative, dear.

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   02SmithAposted 16 years ago

   I'm liking this place already.. great answers already. Seems like great site with some great users! Thanks for the information!
   
   Are we allowed to use our hubpage referral link in paid email ads or any kind of incentivized traffic? I just want to make sure everything is allowed before I make it a point to refer!

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      thranaxposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Well, personally I wouldn't but I guess displaying your link in a paid email is ok. It's not really selling anything and its not promoting clicking on aids or anything...
      
      I am not sure, I don't do paid emails, I just email friends I know and they forward to friends they know etc.
      
      gonna need another opinion on this one.

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      waiting4uposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      You're right about this.... This is the very first place that I basically want to visit everyday if I have time. Also, there are many great people here in this forum and they can provide plenty of help for you.

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   kashifmahmoodposted 16 years ago

   Referrals if you have any will get you more earnings hopefully .
   
   So far I have 13 sign ups from a HP banner ( With a tracker ) placed at the header of my blog www.kashifblog.com
   
   Those 13 referrals have collectively published 33 hubs so far . I do not do any promotion otherwise I might have got more .
   
   About using your tracker ( Link ) in paid emails I think its ok .
   
   But the best way to do this is to find interesting hubs and share with everyone with your own custom tracker .

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   darksideposted 16 years ago

   The system that HubPages has in place is an excellent concept.
   
   Whether it's referring traffic or trying to get someone to sign up, the rewards (and potential for monetary gain) is instant.
   
   I outline it in greater detail here: http://hubpages.com/hub/referrals

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   Marisa Wrightposted 16 years ago

   How much you get from referrals depends very much on who signs up.   I have several people signed up, but most of them have never written a Hub - so I'm not going to get anything from that! 
   
   I specifically invited a small number of good writers to sign up with my referral link, and they're the ones who are producing quality Hubs and thereby benefiting me.  Plus - I hope - they're enjoying Hubbing!
   
   It never hurts to include your tracker everywhere you post a link, because you never know who might sign up.  But as I say, you really don't know what the quality of those anonymous sign-ups will be.

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   Inspirepubposted 16 years ago

   I would guess that paying to advertise the Hubbing opportunity would not give you a good ROI in the short term.
   
   The average person who starts out seriously Hubbing makes $100 total lifetime earnings sometime around the 4-7 month mark, and after two years are averaging a few hundred a month. Serious Hubbers make up about 0.5% of all Hubbers.
   
   Assuming that you get a 5% conversion from your ad to a signed-up Hubber, that means that you will, after 4-7 months wait, start to get a trickle of income - an average of 8.3c per Hubber, and each Hubber took you 20 clicks to enrol, so that's a return of 0.4c per original click on your ad.
   
   After two years, this will have risen to 25c per month per Hubber, or 1.25c per original click.
   
   So, if the clicks cost you, say 20c each, then you might have got your 20c back after two or three years, IF you got a big enough pool of recruits in the beginning to actually land yourself one person who takes Hubbing seriously and sticks at it.
   
   If you invested, say $10,000 in buying clicks, and you did manage a 5% conversion, so you had about 2,500 Hubbers, you should expect to have a dozen or so serious Hubbers in the bunch.
   
   You would then be making something like $625 per month in over-rides at the three-year mark, and have your original $10,000 back.
   
   Unless of course, your conversion rate from original click to Hubber was only 1%, because then you would only be making $125 a month after three years.
   
   And it would take you 15 years to get your original $10,000 back, which means you would never catch up to what you could have made by simply sticking it in the bank.
   
   But you may be a marketing genius and be able to convert 10% of clicks to Hubbers, in which case, you might be on to something ... don't let me dampen your entrepreneurial spirit.
   
   Jenny
   
   P.S. Where are those smilies when you need them?

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      Marisa Wrightposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Guess that makes me an average "serious Hubber", then.  I think I'm pleased!

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      Pete Michnerposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      That's a great breakdown of the math of it- thanks!

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   Rik Ravadoposted 16 years ago

   I've been hubbing 6 months and have 18 signups that have produced 88 Hubs.  In practice most of these (and virtually all the traffic) are all produced by 2 Hubbers who I suspect are the same person.
   
   This ties in with the idea that serious hubbers make up a very small percentage of the total signups.
   
   These Hubs have so far produced 24000 impressions (far more than I have).  The bad news is that click values are very low (girly picture gallery stuff).  Most of the clicks on my Adsense statement (at least 70%?) are not mine but my hubs produce more value because the clicks are higher value.
   
   I would imagine for someone as sucessful as Sunseven she makes more from her affiliates than from her own hubs.
   
   I am wondering whether I should contact my prolific affiliate and encourage them to write hubs using high value keywords!

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      Inspirepubposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      That may work - assuming of course that they can string words together in English.
      
      I have noticed that the little text which does appear on the picture gallery Hubs is usually incredibly tortured - reading 500 words of that garble about something high-value like internet marketing would cause a stroke in most people, I imagine!
      
      And dead readers don't click ...
      
      Jenny

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    Ronald Daniarposted 16 years ago

    Interested. I will add more referral links after this. Thanks for the sharing. I already got 8 sign ups but only one hubber is active and makes 16 hubs in 2 weeks. That's explaining me now from where do I got untracking dollars in my adsense this 2 weeks.

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    SunSevenposted 16 years ago

    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/1428?page=4#post65375

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    Rik Ravadoposted 16 years ago

    Jenny - you are right as always - probably best to just accept the odd cents that come my way and not try to convert them into dollar clicks.  I'm amazed how much traffic the picture galleries suck in when you look at the quality of the content.
    
    SunSeven - your figures are amazing.  Do you make more from your signups than your own hubs?

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