Why can't believers and non-believers live and let live?

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   Sophia Angeliqueposted 14 years ago

   Why is it that believers and non-believers just can't let the topic go?
   
   Why must this topic always be fought about?
   
   So, if believers want to believe, let them. That's what the free will is about. People are allowed to believe what they want withut someone telling them that they'll go to hell if they don't believe.
   
   And if non-believers don't want to believe, let them. If they're really going to hell, let them. It's their perogative.
   
   Why can't both drop the topic?

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   goldenpathposted 14 years ago

   I second that motion.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Awesome!
      
      So - no more evangelizing from the Mormons. This is great. Good for you guys. I won't be seeing any more missionaries? That so?
      
      I have changed my tune Mr. Mormon. When does this new phase start?

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         goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         You've got such hard core hatred against me but whatever.  Our "discussions" have only spawned from people's accusations and inquiries in here.
         
         I've never started a prosyletizing thread.
         
         I'm sticking to the point of THIS thread.  Live and let live.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            So - your religion is not going to stop evangelizing?

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               goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               What in the world are you talking about?????
               
               My post is from me.  I am a leader in the Church but I am not the Prophet.  Please get a grip.  I do not proselytize on the forums.  I will answer doctrinal questions when posed to me but I don't throw religious ideas around in here like so many love to do.
               
               I speak for me and not the Church.

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Really? You don't go around quoting the bible and complaining that LDS members are persecuted?

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                     goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     It's sad but I understand that your countenance on the internet brings you in droves of "followers" of your work.  That's great!  I hope you obtain all the success you wish for and more.  However, you are getting way off the purpose of the thread and in fact proving the point.
                     
                     Your question to me has been answered by you.  No, I don't complain - I observe.  Persecution is prevalent in every faith and people - including those of no faith.  To "cry wolf" is stupid.
                     
                     According to our interpretation of the scriptures we are a proselyting faith.  We seek out and teach.  Nine times out of ten we are rejected but that's OK.  All you have to do is slam the door as usual.  Please don't condemn missionaries that knock on your door causing people to lift their rears off the chair to answer the door.  There's no reason not to be polite in declining their message.  It's called liberty.
                     
                     Are you not prosyletizing?  Aren't you in a constant pursuit to sway people in a certain direction?  Like it or not you are doing the same type of thing.  We all do as we interact with each other in life.

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                        Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Odd that you complain (observe) so loudly when I do it - don't you think?
                        
                        Perhaps finally he did get the message? I am a mirror. Look how upset Christians get when I proclaim myself righteous:
                        
                        http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Righteous-Atheist
                        
                        

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                           goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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                           Reflecting from an old phrase "Drugs are a Dead End" I strongly uphold that everyone observe this practice.  Have a wonderful holiday season and be sure to designate a driver. 

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                              Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              Same to you Goldenpath. Have a great Christmas. And I officially apologize for giving you such a hard time. I have ridden you hard and rough. Except for the "Sweetie pie," thing - you took it like a man.
                              
                              All I ask is that you look at how you sound from my perspective.

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                                 goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 My apologies as well and I know our language seems odd.  At least mine that is.  Call it genetics or even constipation.  It don't matter.   I hope to be successful at the internet world someday.  I enjoy your hubs!

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                                    Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    Drop me a line - I will point you at it. Strange as it may sound - I have a lot of believers I clash with ask for help - and I am always available to help those that ask regardless of their irrational belief systems.

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                                       Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                       WTF MARK!?!?!
                                       
                                       
                                       I am more irrational than ANYONE on here!!!.... Just ask the local police!  where is my assistance!?!?

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                                          Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                          Lets talk about the $37 you owe, then we can move on.......

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   Cause they love to talk

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   ediggityposted 14 years ago

   Playas wanna play, Ballas wanna ball.

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   Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

   let's not go bad mouthing all missionary positions!

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   Home Girlposted 14 years ago

   Because we like to laugh at each other.

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   Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

   Only by crushing and converting these infidels by the consistent use of the written word, will we be able to subdue their heretical ways.
   
   Then, and only then, will they and their female family members be allowed to come to our gatherings... 
   
   where the later will subjected to my Sodom and Gomorrah inspired advances!

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      ediggityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Can we go out for burgers and fries after?

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         Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         go out?  we will make them prepare the food for us afterward in a gesture of thanks and servitude
         
         (I want onion rings too)

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            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            What a disgusting belief system. Can I get my burger with double bacon and extra cheese?

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               Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               it will taste vile in your mouth because you are not a believer!!!
               
               Sure, you can have 2

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh - I believe in burgers.

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            ediggityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Good call, Onion rings for all! Yarrr!

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   rotlposted 14 years ago

   I certainly wish people could live and let live. Seems easy enough. But doesn't seem like most people are interested in that.
   
   I used to think it was believers that were the obnoxious ones, always forcing their beliefs on others and mocking them, but on this forum I have found that atheists can be just as relentless.
   
   It's sad that some people feel they always have to be attacking others' views. Possible reasons: indoctrination, upbringing, personality, insecurity, or misanthropy.

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      Home Girlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      As long as we are labelled properly...

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   calpol25posted 14 years ago

   I wish people could live and let live too, but your always going to get extremists, fanatics, zealots and people who just dont like any one regardless.
   
   It all boils down to who is right and who is wrong, which is the stupidest of scenarios possible because it is a question that no one will agree on.
   
   It is a nice thought, but it wont ever happen, as much as we want it too.

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    Mikeydoesposted 14 years ago

    The thing is there are millions of people that do not say a word and people say/believe what they want. However there are millions of people who just can't seem to. Maybe it is pure boredom, but to me I have way more things my mind is interested in.

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    paradigmsearchposted 14 years ago

    "Why can't believers and non-believers live and let live?"
    
    The only folks that show up here are the ones that want to. Let them!

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    nell79posted 14 years ago

    I prefer to live and let live for sure. It's a very personal thing, whether you believe or don't and so it's a touchy issue.
    
    Did somebody say burgers? I want one! Can I get a shake with that?

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