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  1. Debhsmomof4 profile image65
    Debhsmomof4posted 13 years ago

    I joined HubPages two years ago but only recently started writing here again. I started writing hubs again because I noticed my old articles at eHow were making money. I figured I would do the same thing here.

    Here's what I'm discouraged and have a question about. I do keyword research and choose keyword phrases that get a fair amount of traffic (not less than 40 visits per day according to WordTracker)and keyword phrases that don't have too much competition in the URL/Title Tag category.

    When I first publish my hub, they appear on the first page of Google, get some traffic, and then disappear off the face of the earth.

    Any suggestions? Bad keywords? Bad topics? Bad writing? Bad Hubs? or do I just need to be patient and wait for these hubs to "mature" and gain importance in the search engines? It took my articles at eHow over a year to start making any noticeable money.

    Thanks for any help and insight!

    1. Abbasangel profile image64
      Abbasangelposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Apparently Google likes fresh meat and then due to not enough backlinking and stuff it drops off. I am not entirely sure why and this all I have sumised from reading the forums and hubs on the topic.

    2. profile image53
      MyPostingIDposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      keyword phrases that don't have too much competition in the URL/Title Tag category.

      The amount of competition should not be your concern.  You really only have 10 sites to compete with anytime you target a keyword/phrase.  Those 10 sites are the ones that show up on the first age of Google for your targeted term.

      Although a particular term may only have 1,000 competing websites, if all of them are PR8 sites with 10,000 backlinks to each, you are going to have a hard time ranking.

      On the flip side, if you target another term that shows 500,000 competing websites (the top 10 of which are all PR0 with very few backlinks), you will have a much easier time ranking.

      I've published close to 200 hubs on another ID and most are indexed by Google and ranked on Page 1 within 48 hours more often than not.  Some terms that I target show MILLIONS of competing sites an I am still able to rank because I pay close attention to the top 10 sites.

      Hope this helps.

      1. simeonvisser profile image68
        simeonvisserposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks, that is very good advice. There is a lot more to keyword research than it seems at first sight. I'll focus on applying your advice in my future keyword and competition research.

  2. lrohner profile image67
    lrohnerposted 13 years ago

    What you are experiencing is very common for HubPages. Google treats online content like wine and cheese - it likes ones with age.

  3. simeonvisser profile image68
    simeonvisserposted 13 years ago

    This is normal: when content is fresh Google likes it because it is new. Then it drops in ranking because there are very few links to that hub. But as time passes you'll do better with your hubs because people will start to link to it. They need to mature indeed.

  4. saleheensblog profile image59
    saleheensblogposted 13 years ago

    Wait at least 6 month after publishing to see the best result.

  5. sofs profile image76
    sofsposted 13 years ago

    As your hubs get aged they do show up on the Google searches, but that is the time you have to work on back linking and promotion.
    Don't worry patience is the key  smile

  6. Debhsmomof4 profile image65
    Debhsmomof4posted 13 years ago

    Thanks, everyone!

    "Aging" is what I was hoping would happen (well, as far as my hubs go smile) From limited experience with eHow.com, I know that it does take time to make money doing this. It's just a little scary.

    We hubbers spend time writing, basically on faith, that we'll eventually make some money. Meanwhile, in the back of our minds, we have this nagging feeling that maybe we're really being stupid and should stop wasting our time - that's how I feel at the moment anyway.

    I'm going to keep working on faith and step up my hub writing. After all, if it was easy, everyone would do it - right?

    Thanks again!

  7. PurpleOne profile image85
    PurpleOneposted 13 years ago

    I would definitely encourage you to keep going. I wanted to quit so many times because it seemed like it wasn't working and I kept having that nagging feeling in the back of my mind too that I was wasting my time. I, too, joined HP two years ago but only recently started writing (I wrote a few hubs a year ago, then took off for a year). I'm not making huge cash now but this month I've made $60 so far and there are a few days left in the month to go. It's enough to encourage me to continue at least.

    I remember when I first started, I told myself that if I could make $50 a month, that I would be happy with that and it would be proof to myself that I really can make money on this site. It seemed like a stretch that I would ever make it to $50 though but I've already beaten it a few times.

    Like I say, keep on going and you will likely be surprised. Good luck!

  8. Midnight Oil profile image81
    Midnight Oilposted 13 years ago

    "With time and patience, the mulberry leaf becomes satin. With time and patience the mulberry leaf becomes a silk gown."  Chinese Proverb

    Never, never, never, never give up - Winston Churchill

    Just keep at it, the acorn never gave up until it became a huge Oak tree - Me !

    I think we are pre-programmed to give up a the merest sign of failure... wink

  9. Karanda profile image78
    Karandaposted 13 years ago

    Your hubs are well written and as you have said, rich in keywords. I don't blame you for being discouraged, I feel it myself on a regular basis. Patience seems to be the key and getting rid of those nagging thoughts of wasting time.

    PurpleOne has given some encouraging words by way of actually making money. Who knows?

  10. Debhsmomof4 profile image65
    Debhsmomof4posted 13 years ago

    Thanks, Karanda. I appreciate the encouragement and the compliment. And you're right. PurpleOne does have good advice as well as the person who passed on the info about competition - sorry, I can't tell who you are!

    I never check pagerank and have forgotten how to check for backlinks. I know I've done it before but will refresh my memory and try your method. Your info is very encouraging!

    Midnight Oil - I think I'll print out your encouraging words and stick them in front of my computer smile

    Thanks again!

  11. profile image0
    TopUniverseposted 13 years ago

    Hey Debhsmomof4, Don't give up easily. I am also in similar situation like you except i am here for about 4 months. I am working regularly to get success which slightly far away from me.

  12. brandonakelly profile image60
    brandonakellyposted 13 years ago

    Hey, first and foremost I fully recommend you going to The Keyword Academy, look it up in Google and take advantage of their free month trial. Second, the fact that your already doing keyword research is fantastic, not many people do this. The thing with Google is is will usually rank you very high at first and then once you're really indexed in with the competition you'll be far behind in the pages. Try using scroogle.org's scraper tool to find your location, if you show up for a while. What you really need to do is learn how to back link, you can find a lot of information regarding this by typing it in the Hub search box. Just do your research and apply the methods, you'll get faster results, I promise.

  13. yenajeon profile image70
    yenajeonposted 13 years ago

    Another way to try and "double your earnings" (not necessarily double but you know what I mean) is to sign up for the Amazon Affiliate program.

    I also wrote exactly one hub and disappeared from hubpages for one year. It was easy for me to blame it on lack of time. I used to encourage myself by saying that HP pays better than what my savings account pays in interest!

    Nowadays, I am doing WAY better and making some money, so hard work can pay off.

  14. thisisoli profile image75
    thisisoliposted 13 years ago

    Research SEO, you are choosing VERY low traffic niches, but there will still be competition.


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