Stolen Content Thieves 68articles is Back Up Again - Check your hubs!
These Thieves are back up again.. and once again monetized with that company that has a dollar each way on both the thieves and the Copyright owners... Google!
It appears that much of the HubPages content has been shifted or merely re-published with all links, authors and previous publishing sources removed.... In favor of a notice that the article has been sourced from 68 Articles
So now they are TAKING OWNERSHIP of All Stolen Content That they have on their Fraudulent Site... (and Google are happy to once again provide Ads
)
I haven't yet checked their new host or their current whois registration (as the last one was simply registered as Mr.68.. which is in itself illegal to register- and sufficient reason to have the site De-Registered!). But they were using a reseller of Host Gator, during our last round and post Bluehost!
They STILL HAVE STOLEN CONTENT On this Site.. So I Doubt that Host Gator would have given them another chance if they known.. they (HG) are far more supportive of Copyright laws and many of us use them as our hosts etc.
So please Check your content on this Scumbag Site - Let us all know on this thread, what you find and what you think about these Thieves... As ALL Publicity Here is GREAT for Our Cause and not theirs.
If you find any of your work still on this site, or manipulated in any way.. come back to this thread and report your findings and I will write a formal C & D Notice to the Primary Hosting Site that will (This Time) Finish The Thieves Off Completely!
Same Again Folks... Kick Butt.. 3rd Time Unlucky For These Creeps!
Oh Exactly.. this my 4th Time doing this..
It's usually Sunforged and I ...
But Now perhaps a few others also feel as passionately about INTEGRITY, Copyright and Theft.... Oh Yeah... And APATHY!
Thanks Mate..
68ARTICLES.COM SITE INFORMATION
IP: 204.152.255.6
Website Status: active
Server Type: Apache/2.2.17 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.17 OpenSSL/0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635
Alexa Trend/Rank: Up Arrow 1 Month: 348,938 3 Month: 465,907
Page Views per Visit: 1 Month: 2.7 3 Month: 2.7
As You Can SEE Everyone... These Guys RAPE Traffic as well!
Domain Name: 68articles.com
Updated: 1 second ago - Refresh
Registrar: FASTDOMAIN, INC.
Whois Server: whois.fastdomain.com
Referral URL: http://www.fastdomain.com
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Expiration Date: 2012-04-06
Creation Date: 2010-04-06
Last Update Date: 2011-04-07
Name Servers:
ns2803.hostgator.com
ns2804.hostgator.com
See 68articles.com DNS Records
FastDomain are Host Gator Resellers, Like the last lot!
Fast Domain
1958 South 950 East
Provo, Utah 84606
To Report Spam, Fraud etc: tos@fastdomain.com
Telephone: 888-210-3278
Outside the U.S.: +1(801) 765-9400
Telephone support is available
Monday - Friday 6 AM - 10 PM (MST)
Extended Hours!
------------
Okay If We Find 1 single Identified STOLEN Copyrighted article Here (and matched by the HP Author).. Then I will CONTACT HOST GATOR and Finish these Thieves Off..
Unfortunately they have taken down My Stolen Articles
So Check Your Please!Thank You Very Much mate... I do appreciate that you have taken time out to participate in helping to sort out the Internet Theft that Affects 90% of the writers on Hub Pages and elsewhere
For Me Personally... They have now taken Down the articles that they scraped from HubPages and published on their Scumbag site!
So.. As Recommend 1 stated... WHY AM I and Now You Wheelinallover Wasting our Time Trying to Help Others here?
Why Indeed? 'Cause I'm NOT Staying Up All Night AGAIN Dealing With This Crap
Went to FastDomain.com and asked them to sell me a Domain called: 68articles.com....
Step 1
I Need a Domain
Help me get my Free Domain
Enter Domain Name: 68articles.com
(domainname.com)
Reply:
The domain [68articles.com] has been banned from being used on FastDomain.com. Please try a different domain name.
Really?
But they are STILL HOSTED HERE!!
Who is playing games?Cheers for that mate. You know what you've said in you Bio.. well I am exactly the same, in nature, in spirit and in pegmanship.
On behalf of others who will gain by wiping out this scumbag, I would just like to say a big thank you. I have just spent a couple of hours there. no luck seeing anything I recognized, but will keep looking.
Thanks Earnest.. It concerns me that these ratbags may have taken down the bulk of our articles, but that does not stop the problem.
You can tell by the arrogance and determination that this one will not simply dump our content... they will continue with it in some respect - either on this 68articles site or on another site under their control!
So it is really important to finish them off
EXCUSE ME????
You Know I Actually Know Exactly What I'm Doing!! But Hey.. If You Think You Know WHAT IS BEST... It Just Might Be Best IF YOU SORT THIS CRAP OUT INSTEAD EH?
I Really Don't Think I Need Anyone Nit Picking With Such A Trivial, Petty Attempt of One-Up-Man-Ship Thank You Very Much!
- I Think Stolen Content Is A Far More Important Issue Than what you think is Best...
- What I Think is Best... Is that when competent people who actually know what they are doing, are dealing with such a serious issue as Site Content Theft (In the absence of any efforts from the site to do so).. it is Best NOT To Piss them Off..
So unless you have something real to contribute... please don't Okay!Well, I'm just saying that if we keep it all on one thread then everyone who has fought against the 68articles guy in the past can continue to band together and be notified about the changes together. I didn't mean it as a personal attack or an insult, just a better way to fight this 68articles guy off.
It's just hard to keep track of what's new with 68articles.com when there are 4+ forum threads on the topic.It was your assumption that you knew best.. which is what you are trying to endorse again here! You Don't... I'm trying to CLOSE DOWN A SITE.. I don't need to be told what is best for the Spectators or the Thieves!
If it takes 1000 damn threads... then that is 1000 separate references to these Scumbags... which is BAD PRESS!
I don't need to argue with hubbers and I don't need hubbers to criticize my efforts
- if you want to nitpick then you've got the wrong person... I'm trying to deal in facts and evidence
- If you genuinely want to help... find the owners of the stolen content like Write Angled did and PM them to advise that their hubs have been found! - They will all thank you, I'm Sure.
http:// 68articles.com/s2/zeeshan
That's the Link.
Richie... Just check huh, we need to establish completely if our respective hubs have been taken down or they have been altered to show them as being sourced by that site!
If you find the latter and can identify any work that they have done this to... then they can and will be shut down completely!
You provide me the tools (the proof)... and I'll show you the process.
Yep.. It Is Mate... Thanks for that Earnest!
Bon Jour... Cool.. So I can go to bed then and let the Brits take over... The next shift... Cheers.. We're almost on your tomorrow atm ..
Goodnight PD!
I am working through the Home Improvement section, sampling an article every 10 pages or so - so far, it all appears to be from articlesbase, with no HubbersHi Sufi... Yes isn't the articlesbase thing interesting?
It is only a feign.. as the HP material is way more attractive to these clowns and I personally can't see such a dog give up a great bone like that so easily
Write Angled... You Beauty.. I KNEW That They wouldn't let go the bone.. THANK YOU.. thank you...
Now if those HP Authors can NOW Identify and Confirm that this is their work.. I Will Shut these Scumbags Down.. but will still need the DCMA done for at least one!
Cheers Write Angled.. glad you're on our teamThere are a Total of 9 Zeeshan entities on HubPages..
All substantial contributors here.
1 - has published 4 hubs and has a score of 71
7 - have 0 - 1 hub and scores of 2 - 50...
I suppose that I would be wrong thinking that it is quite likely that one of them is the same 'entity' on 68articles
Zeeshan Asad... 0 Hubs 5 Score - 3 Years On HP Keeping the #s UP.
Zeeshan Amad.. - SAME ENTITY on 68articles - with All HP Stolen Content under this name! .. 0 Hubs 17 Score - 1 Year on HP Keeping the #s Up and obviously scraping the site with a HP Password!Thanks so much Pearldiver, You're doing US a huge service, what a great task to take on!
Thank YOU and May all the good you do come back to you ten fold.
Cheers Katie... you know the heart
- So Many Elite People here don't! (or do and fear it! )
CAGSIL.... You Have Stolen Content.. KICK THEIR BUTT MR.!!
Poem About Pleasure and Pain
- written by Zeeshan Amad.... (a Fellow Hubber here!)These Guys Appear to be Pakistani!
Certainly Zeeshan Amad is and he has left a little trail of crumbs to another site that is involved in this scam also and is Google supported.. Here are the details of a 2nd site that is effectively being used to 'launder' income...
Domain Name: zeejia.com
Updated: 1 second ago - Refresh
Registrar: DIRECTI INTERNET SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: http://www. PublicDomainRegistry.com
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Expiration Date: 2011-12-14
Creation Date: 2010-12-14
Last Update Date: 2010-12-14
Name Servers:
ns.hostingmadeeasy.com
ns2.hostingmadeeasy.com
See zeejia.com DNS Records
Information Updated: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:48:57 UTC
ZEEJIA.COM SITE INFORMATION
IP: 66.219.30.219
Website Status: active
Server Type: Apache
Alexa Trend/Rank: Down Arrow 1 Month: 14,502,712 3 Month: 5,374,215
Page Views per Visit: Down Arrow 1 Month: 1.0 3 Month: 1.3
These guys are worse than the Nigerian Scammers... They are Hiding Behind A Woman's Skirt!
This is a Site Called Zeejia Fashion - a wordpress site with heaps of ad links on 68articles...
This is way bigger than you think.. there will be more than 2 sites as I said earlier! We have to chop down all of them!Cheers Alastar... Yes, Yes and Yes.
Read back on this thread.. You will see that they have been ripping us for a long time and they have a system of numerous sites, which they use to filter the income and the backlinking that they have embedded in the stolen pages!
Thanks for your support mate.. I've been getting a bit of stick from some of the others here. What an interesting email.. don't delete it
If they still have any of your work , yes they have hijacked it under a fictitious name ... Though I have to say that I feel that Zeeshan is authentic and that they did not expect their second site to be exposed.
Read back.. there is a link and follow it to the author Zeeshan and you can check your work there... although at the bottom of each stolen page are 4-5 other stolen titles under other author names!
So I think perhaps they STILL HAVE HP Docs but under numerous BS Names... Good Luck mate.i have to check for mine again but in the meanwhile I saw another site owner that was being raped and they put in red words in the middle of their articles. a copyright notice.
i have done that on a few hubs..
in the text capsules.
maybe it will deter thieves who wont want to edit stolen articles with copyright notices throughot the article..
sighIt won't... they are scraped!
You have to Use A Kickadabastardee Hip Throw which breaks their nose and leaves a red impression in the middle of their face!
Oh that's Cool... Maybe his kids will see that he is a thief
These guys have been doing this for a year and getting away with it because the authors give up!
This one ain't gonna do that... I hava the gooda frienza ina Pakinstana... Capeche?
Hey PD, I just went over there and scanned a few more. None that I recognize, but there are many about cars and motorcycles. Can't help but wonder if some of these are Misha's.
Thanks for organizing, hunting and following these people. You're right -- if we don't do it ourselves, then no one will.Hi Beth.... Yep I'm Sure they are Misha's ... could you PM him and give him the link mate? That would be great! We Actually want to serve Notice on Two Webs Sites - Two Web Hosts And Google!
Cheers BethI spent an hour in the car and motorcycle section last night as I have many tech articles in this category too. I found nothing from Misha or any of the other car people yet. I will go through a few categories again today.
Cheers Oli
Of course you are right ... same situation with me!
But they have our articles under other names as well...Oh COOL Richie.... You Are The Man
Go Back in this Thread.. and you will see that I found one of Yours!
Now you must file the Shutdown to ALL Three Sites And GOOgle
Before you do Check out each of the sites that I have listed here and note and other links!
Stick around... OK.
Can Someone PM Cagsil and Tell him also please?
Well we might as well follow the bouncy ball...
Here's a little bit more about one of our thieves!
Zeeshan Ahmed - About the Author: Zeeshan Ahmed is an experienced Professional Content Writer, Researcher, SEO expert and Senior Project Manager at IntelliJect Solutions. Contact at; zeeshan.ahmed@intellijectsolutions.com
What an interesting occupation
Here's the 3rd Site...
Domain Name: intellijectsolutions.com
Updated: 1 second ago - Refresh
Registrar: DIRECTI INTERNET SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: http://www. PublicDomainRegistry.com
Status: OK
Expiration Date: 2011-12-02
Creation Date: 2009-12-02
Last Update Date: 2010-11-24
Name Servers:
ns3.yourownwebserver.com
ns4.yourownwebserver.com
See intellijectsolutions.com DNS Records
Information Updated: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:32:07 UTC
INTELLIJECTSOLUTIONS.COM SITE INFORMATION
IP: 174.122.251.146
Website Status: active
Server Type: Apache/2.2.17 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.17 OpenSSL/0.9.8m DAV/2 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_jk/1.2.30 mod_fcgid/2.3.5
Alexa Trend/Rank: Down Arrow 1 Month: 8,469,175 3 Month: 7,708,732
Page Views per Visit: Down Arrow 1 Month: 1.0 3 Month: 1.4
What's the bet this one is also Googlized?
Wow.... I hate being right about these Scumbags... there are More sites Yet!HERE IS OUR THIEF..... AND HE IS GOING TO BE WEARING A NAPPY AFTER THIS....
intellijectsolutions.com
Google this Boy
Sorry.... Had to laugh at This Site Statement:
At IntelliJect Solution, we put paramount focus on a forked approach i.e. dividing the process into following steps:
That Sounds a Bit Forked To Me Mate!Bugger.... Here's his 4th Site.... This is a Reseller Account and I'm Sure That this will be where 68articles is currently hidden
Cool... This is why they have been able to deflect previous attempts to Nail them... most would not get past their Self hosting site! So We Have To Kick their Butts via The Company Who is Selling Band Width to this Reseller Com.
Got Them!!
Domain Name: yourownwebserver.com
Updated: 1 second ago - Refresh
Registrar: DIRECTI INTERNET SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
Referral URL: http://www. PublicDomainRegistry.com
Status: OK
Expiration Date: 2011-08-23
Creation Date: 2006-08-23
Last Update Date: 2009-12-28
Name Servers:
ns1.yourownwebserver.com
ns2.yourownwebserver.com
See yourownwebserver.com DNS Records
Hosts?: ns1.yourownwebserver.com, ns2.yourownwebserver.com, ns3.yourownwebserver.com, ns4.yourownwebserver.com, win1.yourownwebserver.com, win2.yourownwebserver.com
Information Updated: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:00:54 UTC
YOUROWNWEBSERVER.COM SITE INFORMATION
IP: 174.122.251.98
Website Status: active
Server Type: Apache/2.2.15 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.15 OpenSSL/0.9.8m DAV/2 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635
Alexa Trend/Rank: Down Arrow 1 Month: 2,239,976 3 Month: 1,898,912
Page Views per Visit: Up Arrow 1 Month: 2.6 3 Month: 2.4OK ... Host Gator Runs the Dedicated Named Servers for 68articles... But these Crooks don't have all their eggs in one basket... So very likely there are a team of them
68articles DNS Info
68ARTICLES.COM NAME SERVERS
Name Server IP Location
ns2803.hostgator.com 50.22.104.141
ns2804.hostgator.com 50.22.107.32
ping 68articles.com
68ARTICLES.COM SOA RECORD
Name Server ns2803.hostgator.com
Email Email Masking Image@gator1402.hostgator.com
Serial Number 2011040702
Refresh 1 day
Retry 2 hours
Expiry 41 days 16 hours
Minimum 1 day
68ARTICLES.COM DNS RECORDS
Record Type TTL Priority Content
68articles.com A 4 hours 50.22.107.62 ()
68articles.com MX 4 hours 0 68articles.com
68articles.com NS 1 day ns2803.hostgator.com
68articles.com NS 1 day ns2804.hostgator.com
68articles.com SOA 1 day ns2803.hostgator.com. dnsadmin.gator1402.hostgator.com. 2011040702 86400 7200 3600000 86400
68articles .com TXT 4 hours v=spf1 a mx include:web sitewelcome .com ~all
mail.68articles.com CNAME 4 hours 68articles .com
www .68articles.com CNAME 4 hours 68articles .comCheers Jane... Let them stay up until everyone who has articles up there has recorded the evidence of the theft...
OK.. Here is the DNS Info for This Crooked Fashion Site that they use to launder the ad income and dud links:
This is run along side Intelliject
I Note that this is Hosted By Nexus -PK .... So this one will not be hard to take down either:
A Bit of an Octopussy Group of traders.. These boys!
A Good Fisherman would Lop Off All Their Arms and Use Them For BAIT!
DNS Info.
ZEEJIA.COM NAME SERVERS
Name Server IP Location
ns.hostingmadeeasy.com 72.249.151.2
Islamabad, 08, PK
ns2.hostingmadeeasy.com 66.219.30.214
72.249.151.5
Islamabad, 08, PK
ping zeejia.com
ZEEJIA.COM SOA RECORD
Name Server ns.hostingmadeeasy.com
Email Email Masking Image@nexus.pk
Serial Number 2010121302
Refresh 1 day
Retry 2 hours
Expiry 41 days 16 hours
Minimum 1 day
ZEEJIA.COM DNS RECORDS
Record Type TTL Priority Content
zeejia.com A 4 hours 66.219.30.219 ()
zeejia.com MX 4 hours 0 zeejia.com
zeejia.com NS 1 day ns.hostingmadeeasy.com
zeejia.com NS 1 day ns2.hostingmadeeasy.com
zeejia.com SOA 1 day ns.hostingmadeeasy.com. arsalan.nexus.pk. 2010121302 86400 7200 3600000 86400
mail.zeejia.com CNAME 4 hours zeejia.com
www .zeejia.com CNAME 4 hours zeejia.com
Ok .... This is one of the links that this dude has put through to the above site via embedded coding on the stolen pages ..
zeeshan - About the Author: Hi, I am Zeesh, have a lot of interest in writing and also love to write and read. <a rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackPageview', '/outgoing/article_exit_link']);" href=http://www.zeejia.com>Sony Ericsson Softwares</a>
Every stolen page... I Think these Turkeys Learnt this Dirty SEO Trick on Hubs
Interesting thought that one... wwww. yahooooooo in Tibet stuff!Okay Where's My Coffee?
This has already been a 13 hour shift for PD
Who wants to take over??? You have all the Sites and DNS info
zzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzWow.... Here's another family member AND an HP Member for 3 Years
Asad Zeeshan - About the Author: Asad Zeeshan Analyst International MBA Courses (Europe) MBA (Pakistan) cell: +923454152834 Skype: asadzeeshan
Not very Bright this one .. an MBA to Steal Content?
Skype the Bugger!Relax Mate
The Dream Has Turned!
It's NOW Their Nightmare!
Can You Take A Screen Shot Of EVERY Article You Find There svp?
And perhaps download a copy of it onto this thread
#
Dan Fogelberg
I became a fan of Dan Fogelberg a few years ago when I heard his song Windows and Walls ... I was quite sad to see the news today. The music legend passed away too soon. But he will be remembered forever for his contributions to the music world. ... I own three of his albums, Windows and Walls, The Very Best of Dan ...
hubpages.com/hub/Dan-Fogelberg - Cached - Similar
#1
Dan Fogelberg
11 Mar 2011 ... I became a fan of Dan Fogelberg a few years ago when I heard his song ... The music legend passed away too soon. But he will be remembered ...
68articles.com/dan-fogelberg-45b5184b.html - Cached
#2
Who Belongs to this? HP number 1 ... Crooks #2
Oh NO... SUNSEVEN.... This Is Yours... and they have more of your music hubs!!
Could Someone PM Sunseven and let her know Please?
THanks.#
Home-Made Organic Baby Food
In a baby's first few years they sleep, take baths, eat, play and rinse and repeat many times over. But one thing is very certain they...
hubpages.com/hub/Home-Made-Organic-Baby-Food - Cached - Block all hubpages.com results
Not helpful? You can block hubpages.com results when you're signed in to search. hubpages.com
#
Home-Made Organic Baby Food
20 Jan 2011 ... In a baby's first few years they sleep, take baths, eat, play and rinse and repeat many times over. But one thing is very certain they will ...
68articles.com/home-made-organic-baby-food-449b16ab.html - Cached
ISN'T That Interesting?
You can block hubpages.com results when you're signed in to search. hubpages.com
#
ANDREW MILBURN - You've Been at HubPages for 3 Months.. And These Scumbags Have Scraped Your Work!!
How can HP Writers Make An Income With This BS Going On?
NOT GOOD ENOUGH HP! We are Not Fodder!This Is Truly Heart Breaking Stuff...
I've Spent Nearly 15 hours tracking these guys and I think that I have given My Critics the opportunity to Look The Other Way!
This is Simply Shameful And These Thieves have been Members of This Community for 3 Years! That is the most Shameful Thing!
What Chance does a 3 month writer have here with this BS?Well done PD.
What you are doing is highly commendable and i know many of us hubbers really appreciate your tireless effort on this issue.
Thank you.
Now i'm off to check and see what i'll find again.As I said earlier EK, the loyal members communicate with each other about these type actions. We watch, we learn, we write!
Oh I hear that Randy
lucky for you I didnt get offended by that comment 
as she throws back her head and shimmy shays off to the kitchen.
Go Peardiver ,hope you bash the living *&^% outta them thieving swines!Sorry, I should have said "many" loyal members, EK!
Im just teasin ya ,you know I wuv's ya Randy, even though Im still not stopping to move you to the side of the road
And you call that wuv! Kiwi women are cold!
Hey thats not what ya said last night Randy
Oops , looks around,where am I again??...
Oh ok include long key tailwords,remember relevant tags..ok gotcha
Phew that was closeCare for an apple Eve...er...EK?
- ...i saw your posts....
I'm just asking a question....
why was pearldiver banned?
Banned
for ?Gosh. I'm dismayed to hear PD is banned.
Anyway, I was alerted by two different hubbers today that my Top '80s Indie Bands hub had been stolen.
Write Angled even provided a link:
68articles.com/top-80s-indie-band -45b4d847.html
However, when I went to check it out I got a 404 Error Message from Host Gator saying it has been moved or never existed.
Given the widespread nature of this pirating, I would hope that HP Admin would go after these scumbags....
MM
Related Discussions
- 242
Please HP.... STOP OUR WORK being SCRAPED & STOLEN from HubPages!
How many more times are we expected to have to put up with Article Thieves who use HP solely as a place to easily Steal from and to enable those thieves to fill their own sites with our Original and Copyrighted articles/content/keywords that we published Here in good faith?How about HP getting more...
- 35
Copyright Theft - Check this site for your articles.
I recently found that someone had stolen one of my hubs and literally copy and pasted it into his own space on bubblews.com. He didn't even have enough sense or time to take my name and copyright symbols off of the article itself before posting it under his account!!!!! Here's his plagiarized...
- 12
Stolen Content Investigation - Findings and Questions
After more than a year without publishing any hubs, I've decide to start publishing again. First two items on the agenda involved finishing an unpublished hub and responding to comments. Then I decided to investigate whether any of my hubs have been plagiarized and copied elsewhere during my...
- 20
"Your Article may have been copied . . ."
Yep, it was. I looked up the owner of the blog and sent the suggested dmca info to them , no response.I delved further and found out it was on aTumblr site. I looked around and found a contact that deals with copyright issues. Sent the information. They replied promptly, asked a question or two and...
- 29
Stolen content (with little assistance) hurts everyone
Usually I find a couple pieces of stolen article copy on different sites. Today, it's more than enough to make me comment here. HP notifies us, adds the complaint link, and the complaint file cut-paste copy but little else to build a brick wall against content thieves. For every click...
- 26
More stolen hubs.....Arghhh!
After reading the other forums on copied hubs, I ran a check on several of mine. I found two at:http://the-alps (dot) us/and I suspect there are lots of other hubbers' hubs there. A quick search found a hub by Admiral Murrah, but there are many articles on the site, obviously copied. Also one hub...