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Inconsistency with moderation?

  1. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Hey Staff,

    I'm sorry, but this is a bit sad. The inconsistency with moderation and flagging of hubs is getting ridiculous.

    Please teach your moderators what is actually provocative. It is unacceptable that a picture that shows a little skin is being flagged by the moderation team.

    I have a number of hubs that have been identified by other moderators and those hubs have been left alone. At one point or another, ALL of my Celebrity Hubs have been moderated by previous moderation people(staff members) and passed with flying colors.

    To have NEW moderators, pulling down hubs for NO BLATANT reasons, when the hubs have already been moderated is absurd.

    Thank you for your time.

    1. KFlippin profile image60
      KFlippinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

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      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I am not sure how the HP staff moderates "hate" speech when it comes to hubs. hmm

        1. KFlippin profile image60
          KFlippinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

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          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I am not doubting your research or writing. I'm just saying I am not sure 'how' staff moderates such things as "hate" speech.

            I guess they would have to be able to differentiate between the "individual" speech of the writer and the evidence within the hub. Then again, I don't doubt their explanation, but would show the inconsistency I am ranting about. wink

            1. KFlippin profile image60
              KFlippinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

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              1. Jason Menayan profile image60
                Jason Menayanposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                You've never had a Hub or even a forum post moderated for hate speech.

  2. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Received email with regards to hub unpublished for several reasons, but moderator explanation isn't consistent.

    Yet, another prime example of the blunders happening on HP.

    1. Disturbia profile image60
      Disturbiaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      yikes

    2. Mark Ewbie profile image87
      Mark Ewbieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      roll

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Exactly Mark! It's not fun watching stupidity in motion.

        @Disturbia- yes another icon that displays the frustration provided by moderation members.

        1. Mark Ewbie profile image87
          Mark Ewbieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          OK Cagsil. Touche. Well played. Are we quits?

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            What is that suppose to mean?

            1. Mark Ewbie profile image87
              Mark Ewbieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              It means you nicely dealt with my attempt to use your rolleyes thing in a provocative way.  Therefore I have warmed to you as someone I might be able to rub along with, if not exactly on the same page.

              1. Cagsil profile image61
                Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Oh, okay. Good to know. wink

  3. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    More inconsistency with moderation-

    Just received yet another email with regards to my unpublished hub for adult content? Is BS! Plain and simple.

    Not to mention, the supposed "unrelated" links were in HP's RSS FEED and it was based on the KEYWORDS "Kirsten Dunst".

    How did the RSS FEED come up with something that wasn't related?

    Staff makes no sense.

  4. Misha profile image77
    Mishaposted 6 years ago

    Hey Cags, check my profile for a new site where you can say what you think about current HP events, without being moderated down. It's called hubRages big_smile

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Misha, I've seen it. smile But, thank you kindly. lol lol

      On a side note- I'm glad you said something about it, so others can find it as well. smile big_smile

    2. mistyhorizon2003 profile image95
      mistyhorizon2003posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Great idea Misha, a place for disgruntled Hubbers to Vent big_smile

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Hey Misty, it's not like there are not several other places already ranting about HP or it's staff, but one more certainly cannot hurt. lol lol

        1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image95
          mistyhorizon2003posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          LOL, it is healthy to vent, and 'you can never have too much of a good thing' big_smile

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Agreed. smile lol

      2. Marisa Wright profile image98
        Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I do hope it's just a place for Hubbers to vent like adults, and not a place for children to be vindictive, make up conspiracy theories and drip vitriol, like the old HubPages Sucks site.

        1. Misha profile image77
          Mishaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          It's a free place Marisa, and everybody is free to say what they think. Seeing how hubpages treat their writers as totally mentally disabled, one would expect much more childish response over there. So far it was quite grown up conversation. smile

  5. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    What is going on with HP Staff moderators? Unbelievable. sad

    I received an email with specific information about fixing it and I fixed it.

    However, ads have been disabled on the exact same Hub? What gives?

    Is that an example of how HP staff is training their moderators? If so, it's certainly doesn't display confidence in members.

  6. sunforged profile image75
    sunforgedposted 6 years ago

    Wow . you got an email! Im jealous. You came out the plus side on that inconsistency. You should play the lotto today.

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ksnFk5-ybws/S-GDP9GJftI/AAAAAAAAAyQ/OYrRFestQLY/s1600/www.free-smiley-faces.de_big-smileys_grosse-smilies_05_800x800%252525255B1%252525255D.jpg

    I was looking for a big winner , lotto guy type smiley but this creeped me out so I figured i would share it instead

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      lol lol lol

      Thank you Sunforged. tongue smile

  7. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    My email has gone unanswered.

    I want to know why ads have been disabled on the Hub I just fixed to be compliant.

    It was nice that they republished it, but it isn't of any value to me, if the ads are not on the hub.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image98
      Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Grrrrrrrrrr....frustrating.  I know just how you feel.

      Mistakes are happening due to the inexperience of some of the moderators.  I suppose we have to allow for them to be human.  Doesn't make it any less annoying, though!

  8. psycheskinner profile image85
    psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago

    Surely each page should have a moderation history so mods can just see it has already been looked at and passed, to avoid repetition?

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It was a unpublished hub by them. They requested I fix it and I have, and they approved it for republication. Yet, ads are disabled? To me that makes no sense.

      It makes no sense why the moderator who moderated it for approval, didn't bother to ensure ads were enabled.

      hmm

      1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image95
        mistyhorizon2003posted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Yes, I had that happen on one of mine some weeks back. I was so fed up of all the hours I had wasted deleting Clickbank Links and RSS Latest Hub feeds by then, I just unpublished it again myself and am intending to move it elsewhere.

  9. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Still I haven't received a reply to my email, nor has the moderation team put the ads back on the hub THEY requested I fix.

    The hub was fixed....so why am I still being penalized. hmm

    1. Cardisa profile image93
      Cardisaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I had the exact same problem with my Yeast infection article. No ads on it, for a subject that is so popularly searched on Google. I took out all the 'vagina words' and still no ads allowed.

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        You have to send an email to the staff, so a moderator can look at the hub, so they can approve the hub. If you make changes to a hub that has ads disabled, you must contact them to let them know changes were made. They do not come back to see if you did make changes. Since you made changes from the original moderation, and since a moderator manually turned off the ads, then you need to contact them, so as to get them turned back on.

        My hub was approved, but the ads have been disabled for NO reason.

        1. Cardisa profile image93
          Cardisaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          The hub was published but no ads. I will email them.

          Thanks!

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            You're welcome.

            Remember, there is an auto-filter. If the hub was not moderated by a real person, then you can fix the hub to get the ads put on. If the hub was moderated and ads were disabled, then the email is required.

            1. Cardisa profile image93
              Cardisaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Thanks again! you are great!

              1. Cagsil profile image61
                Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                You're welcome again.

                Apparently, I am not so great, when I cannot even get HP to fix my hub. lol lol lol lol lol

  10. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    YAY! I have ads back on the hub I fixed. lol lol

    However, I guess I didn't warrant an answer to my email. sad I mean, if it was a simple mistake then why not admit it? Be humble?

    I guess it really doesn't matter since the hub has it's ads. hmm

    1. Cardisa profile image93
      Cardisaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Hurray!! Congrats Cagsil!!

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Strike that. The ads are still disabled. Foolish me, was looking at the wrong hub. sad

        My mistake. Sorry. sad

        1. profile image48
          hubpagesuckballsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

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          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Are you a dude or a dudette? Not that it really matters, but your posts in this thread are non-productive and actually quite useless.

            Having your account deleted, regardless what your authorscore was at the time, is also meaningless. It's obvious that it wasn't this account, but you've managed to make a secondary account, just to come to the forums to post your rant.

            It's not a surprise, but childish antics isn't actually going to solve anything.

            1. recommend1 profile image72
              recommend1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

              I have to step in here - I agree with Cags that retorts don't solve anything, and yet if my account had been dumped I might not agree so much ?

              The whole point of this thread is that things are not being dealt with properly, on time, or with any clear intelligence.

              That it should cause a revolt from the normally supportive Cags is also the point, not that some dumped article spinner is p!ssed off !

              I am at mid-popint now between staying and just forgetting this place - I want to invest a few dozen articles here - but is it safe ??

              1. Cagsil profile image61
                Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                It would be safe. However, make sure that your articles are not the primary focus. Meaning, do not make the articles, so as to point somewhere else. Make other locations to point to your articles. Only reason being is because other places might actually rank better than HP, so those other places would have more visibility vs HP's articles.

                One way links are better than two way links. Creating a bunch of one way links connected to any other page other than HP would do more good for you.

                I hope that helps Recommend. smile

                1. recommend1 profile image72
                  recommend1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you for that - but I am well aware of the value of linking - however, having articles mature here with their links to my sites (and other sites that I bring within my scope) to then have the articles here unpublished at the whim of a change in TOS or an incompetent mod is hardly a good business proposition is it  ?

                  1. Cagsil profile image61
                    Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    I cannot speak for HP staff and wouldn't want to either, because of their recent actions. However, as I said- your articles on HP should be the final destination for your links. You shouldn't be linking to anything that is yours, but should link to referencing sources that re-affirm what you've written in your articles here.

                    That's all I was trying to state, but failed.

                2. Marisa Wright profile image98
                  Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  But I think that's what Recommend1 wants, Cags.  He has a website or blog which he wants to promote, and is considering posting articles here to get backlinks.

                  I see no problem with that - provided he limits the links to two per Hub.

  11. Williamjordan profile image60
    Williamjordanposted 6 years ago

    Due to Bad Moderation I have deleted over forty Hubs How do I get my Photos before I leave officially I paid for most of the rights to use them, do they now belong to Hub pages in I just loose the money I spent on them. I have paid for a couple of Hubs to be rewritten and the moderators still said sub standard is the people at the stop even listening to any of us this is bad. So long
    Hub Pages  Hope to see some of you at some of the other sites they have approved a lot of the stuffed that was flagged about ten are features, the rest are on my blog the God Centered Life or Today With Williamjordan both are getting good traffic I have four blogs on WordPress that I will be spending more time on Yahoo content and Helium have accepted some work I submitted to them. But this was my favorite site hope thing get better I have a 117 hubs still standing I will be checking on them at least once a week bye.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image98
      Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      No, everything you have posted on HubPages still belongs to you.

 
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