Bring Back HubKarma!

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   iamsergellposted 11 years ago

   I think HubKarma is useful. It shows your progress here in HP though. I want HubKarma to be back please! :C

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      hotwebideasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't even notice that they took HubKarma away. I just saw it the other day.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It's gone?  Woohoo! Good riddance!
      
      HubKarma was a bad idea, especially for newbies like you, because newbies got carried away and used it far too much.  Too many links in your Hub are a bad thing.

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         JamaGeneeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly! Well put, Marisa!

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         hotwebideasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Marisa, I didn't even pay attention to HubKarma, so oldies like you have nothing to worry about

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         lisabeamanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         When I was a newbie, I was very, very guilty of getting carried away with over-linking. I thought that was what I was supposed to do. Now I know better! One of these days, I'll go back to those old hubs and get rid of those extra links!

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      viryaboposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hubkarma?
      Eissssh!!!

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   Michael Willisposted 11 years ago

   Just noticed it gone!!! Yeah...it never worked to help with hubs making money or ranking. Never liked it! I never had it change for the positive no matter how much I did, so I only ignored it.
   Bye-bye HubKarma.

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      iamsergellposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      well, at least it would help the newbies here in HP like me by linking it to other hubbers' page.

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      Ms Deeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I, too, am glad it is gone! It did not seem to reflect that I really do link to other hubs from every hub of mine.

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   Rochelle Frankposted 11 years ago

   I'm not a fan of it either. It's good to support other hubbers, but all of those blue links in a hub are distracting and annoying.
   I hope it stays gone, as I have said in another comment somewhere.  It is another unneeded statistic.

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      iamsergellposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      well, at least it would help the newbies here in HP like me.

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   Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago

   Good riddance to it!  Bad Karma was more like it! 

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      iamsergellposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      it isn't.

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         Rochelle Frankposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Can you make that more specific?
         What isn't what?

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            iamsergellposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            HubKarma shoudn't be deleted here in HP.

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               Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I hope you realize that when you are talking to someone with a virtually perpetual score of one hundred (not me - Rochelle Frank) that it's seriously in your best interest to think about what they are saying, as they don't have a perfect score for no reason.

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                  Rochelle Frankposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Actually, I'm not sure that is true. I don't know the reason, myself. You are giving me too much respect, but I am just expressing a personal opinion.
                  I personally don't like to read hubs with link after link highlighted.
                  Feel free to interlink as much as you want.

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      JamaGeneeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, what he said! I couldn't ever see the point of it in the first place except as a distracting gimmick. Half the time, there were no corresponding hubs to link to, or the "keywords" to link made no sense...i.e. "going to" or some similar silliness...while obvious words to link (like place names and such) were totally ignored.  Again, GOOD RIDDANCE!

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         EmpressFelicityposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         With you on that one!
         
         Not to mention the fact that if you linked to loads of other hubs and they were subsequently deleted, then you were left with a corresponding number of broken links to clean up. I'm glad I never paid much attention to Hub Karma.

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            Sally's Troveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I'd written a Hub a while ago on how to use the suggest links tool to fight writer's block, a kind of tongue-in-cheek look at a ridiculous feature. I made it a point to let every word or phrase the tool found get a link. As so many Hubbers have now left, taking their Hubs with them, this Hub of mine has required the most maintenance because of taking out dead links.
            
            BTW, when this feature was first implemented, the team did say that HubKarma would have a minor/small/some impact on Hubber profile score. Using that tool for that one Hub of mine made me feel like a suckkkup. :p
            
            Good riddance to HubKarma!

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   Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago

   hubkarma?
   
   guess I shouldn't miss it

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      iamsergellposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      hubkarma tracks hubbers progress.

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         Rochelle Frankposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         How? I have never seen that suggestion.
         It just tells how many hubbers you have linked to. It doesn't affect income, and doesn't affect scores.
         My hubkarma used to be higher before I stopped excessive linking... My hubscore is now higher.
         I'm not saying that it is a direct result, but just that the number is not important.
         There are many ways to support fellow hubbers, by commenting, by adding meaningful fan mail, and by interacting on forums.
         
         If I really want to add a link to another hubber's page (and I have done this) I put it in a separate text box and tell readers why I am linking it. (This may actually have some karmic value.)

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years ago

   I was so stupid by putting links to other folk's hubs everywhere in my hubs.  Yeah sure, maybe it was a nice thing to do - but it's a horrible thing to do for your income.  I can share your hubs on who knows how many possible sites that I go to?  That would be better than having a distraction from my hub inside my hub.

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      iamsergellposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      well, i haven't come to the income side of the HP and HubKarma just helps to improve my hubpage then by linking them to other hubbers page.

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         Michael Willisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         You can still link to other hubbers in your hubs without the hubkarma. Just be sure to link to quality hubs that are relevant and add more information with your hub.
         The Hubkarma does not help in reality for one to progress in Hubpages. Writing, reading and asking questions in the forums would be more helpful.
         You will find there are many that are willing to help "newbies" to do well.

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      hotwebideasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Marisa, I disagree with you on that. This is not me as a newbie talking. This is me as someone in the web field for 15 years talking.  It is a great strategy to link to others' hubs because it raises your Google and Yahoo rankings and that will bring more income.
      
      I am not worried about hubkarma, but I have gotten faster income by linking to other hubs because those hubbers link back and it has raised my stats and my earnings more quickly.
      
      And you should not worry about your hub being disrupted just because you link to someone else's hub. If people think your hub is valuable enough to read, they will be back regardless.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Why do you think they link back?  Do you tell them you've linked to them? 
         
         The problem with HubKarma was that newbies would overdo it.  There's nothing more likely to p($$ of a reader than a Hub peppered with blue hyperlinks as if it had the measles.  I'm not joking - that's what many of them do.

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            hotwebideasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Shame on them! There should be a new HubPages Trophy titled "Newbie Has Overlinked To Other Hubs 10,000 Times"

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               Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Exactly, and that's why I'm so glad to see the end of HubKarma!

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                  hotwebideasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  MW, The more I talk to you on these forums, the less of a newbie I become.
                  
                  In my hubs, I will say that most of them have a table of contents that link to other sections of the same hub and I believe people like that, because they can shop the sections what they want.
                  
                  What's your opinion on that?

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                     Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Great idea - I confess I've always been too lazy to do it!

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   Urbane Chaosposted 11 years ago

   There's other ways to improve your hubs.  I never once paid attention to HubKarma, and personally, never cared to. 
   
   For newer people, there's a ton of resources to find out how your doing.

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   sofsposted 11 years ago

   It never did mean much... and yes, bye, bye hubkarma..

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   CMHypnoposted 11 years ago

   Also if you are going to link to other hubbers hubs do it in a links capsule and add your referral tracker!

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    Rochelle Frankposted 11 years ago

    If you go to one of your hubs and click the  'suggest links' a box will pop up for those who still want to see hubkarma. So, it's still there for those who like it, it's just not so obvious. This is a good idea. As has been said, too many people were giving it too much importance and adding too many links.

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       sofsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Oh is it still there???..I never got around to finding it.. thanks, now I know where to look for ..not that I care to..but the information has value in itself and may help people who are still interested in Hubkarma

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