Oh come on HP .. this is ridiculous

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   Ritsosposted 14 years ago

   I found a good keyword to write on and researched it and started to type it into the editor, then I noticed a warning stating:
   
   
   WARNING: Advertising has been disabled on this hub based on automatic content filters
   
   The topic ? - Sperm Donation
   
   What's next HP? Breast cancer ?
   
   Suerely it's a legitimate subject .. well for about half the world anyway :-)

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      theherbivorehippiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I wrote an article on breast health and the ads were disabled (not right away)so I took it down and moved it to one of my blogs.  I was too annoyed to bother emailing anyone about it.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, yes.  Remember it's an automated filter:  it can't read context, all it can do is look for "naughty words".  So words like "sperm" and "breast" will trigger it.

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         Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Sounds like the filter needs to be tweaked then.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I know what you mean, but can you suggest how?
            
            If HubPages decided not to filter for words like 'breast' or 'penis',they would fail to catch a lot of "adult content" Hubs.  So it's not really possible to tweak the filter - what needs to be tweaked is Hubbers' level of education, so they understand there's no need to be upset if they get caught in it.

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               Ritsosposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Can't agree with you there Marisa ... I'm sure if you scan through any pron site, you won't find much use of penis, breast or even .. oooo vagina!
               
               I'd suggest that the filter needs changing .. we aren't living in the 18th cenrury anymore

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                  PaulGoodman67posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Sorry, Ritsos, but the word "sperm" does crop up regularly on porn sites.
                  
                  Google it if you don't believe me! lol

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      platinumOwl4posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      http://hubpages.com/hub/Worship-Of-The- … ous-Breast  I had the same problem with the above article. I like you think the filter needs adjustment.

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         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hey Owl,
         
         Did you bother to read the forum thread? There are Ads ON your hub.

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            IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Well spotted Cags.
            There aren't on mine, even after I took explanatory but graphic photos off, and deleted one or two text capsules.
            probably doesn't make sense any more:(
            
            http://hubpages.com/hub/Pagets-Disease-Breast-Cancer

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               Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Hey IzzyM,
               
               Request HP to review the hub and it's content, to see if ads can be put on it. It cannot hurt to ask them to manually look.

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                  IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I did with no response. That was months ago, I'm over it. I just feel every time someone reads this hub that they are wasting their time, which is a shame because it is important information for women.

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                     Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     That sucks IzzyM. Sorry to hear you received no response.

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                        IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Well, only recently an HP team member responded in a forum that they simply did not receive an email I had sent, so maybe that is what happened on this occasion too.

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            platinumOwl4posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, I read it, I was only stating I had the same problem  initially'

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      BRIAN SLATERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Ritos, don't despair. I have a hub on breast cancer surgeons and the adverts are still being shown. What your seeing is an automated trigger, write your hub and let someone read it at hp's providing the content is clean and clearly written you should have no problem getting it published.

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   What is tagged by the automatic filter can be over-ridden by the staff. It's just making you aware of it, beforehand.
   
   A moderator can review your hub when it's completed and determine whether or not, it's quality enough to put ads on it.
   
   No need to fret.

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      Ritsosposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      ah ok so will they automatically check that or do I need to let them know ? I'll write it anyway and if they won't, someone else will .. can't be against googles terms I presume!

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         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, when you are done writing it, send an email to Team@Hubpages.com and let them know that the automatic filter kick ads to disabled mode and you would like it manually reviewed. It should be okay, providing the context is good and content is quality.

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            Ritsosposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            cheers .will do that ta

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            Ritsosposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            lol .. the filter diesn't seem to work .. my ads are showing .. I'll keep an eye on it though

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               Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Remember, the filter is triggered by words in your content. If the automatic filter has reinstated ads, then you must be doing something right.

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 14 years ago

   My advice to you - if HP staff doesn't like it, and won't accept it is to give it a go on Info Barrel.  I'm not certain that they will either, but they might.
   
   I'm tempted to throw my info barrel sign up thing here, but if you aren't already a author on that site and are interested, then you can check it out from my HP profile page.

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      Evolution Guyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOLOLOL

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         Ritsosposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         coment by an appropriately named guy too ;-)

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         Motown2Chitownposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Mark, I see you're stalking people into other threads these days.  Dignified.

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   Mutiny92posted 14 years ago

   I have flagged more than one extremely adult hub with flagrant use of adult terms. I suspect that means the filter is not run prior to publishing.

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   IzzyMposted 14 years ago

   I had a breast cancer hub that was up for over a year that was finally flagged by a human moderator and ads banned. I played about with it, removed some graphic photos (that were actually vital to the hub in that they showed women what to look out for), and emailed staff to look at it again. That was months ago and never got a reply.
   
   That brings my total hubs without ads to 4.
   
   Maybe I should start a health related blog and put all my health-related hubs that have lost their ads there.
   
   These posts would start it off, but I'd need to write a lot more and I have enough on my plate just now.

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      Aficionadaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      Do you know about Techniledge.com - Hubber Haunty's relatively new website?  I forget exactly how the revenue-sharing goes (and content ownership too), but I think you might check into it and see if it might be a place where you could park those particular Hubs.  As the name implies, he's looking primarily for scientific/technical content. If these Hubs of yours are not doing anything here and if you're not ready to start another blog for them just yet, Techniledge might be a good place for them.

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         IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         No I didn't know, and tomorrow I might give it consideration Thanks!

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   Richieb799posted 14 years ago

   It would be interesting how you could write about Sperm donation without going into graphic detail that could be unsuitable if a minor reads it and then asks his parents what sperm donation is lol

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      Ritsosposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      he could read that on any medical site and they don't get frowned on

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   Richieb799posted 14 years ago

   Oh yeah Izzy, I started a new site 'Direxit' over the last week and I put a link to your Books blog on there

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      IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You're a sweetheart thanks!!
      
      I now have quite a variety of both blogs and sites up, Email me if you want a reciprocal link in another of my sites

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   WriteAngledposted 14 years ago

   To set up a whole censorship system on this basis turns HP into a classroom of puerile, sniggering eight-year-olds seeking to find innuendo everywhere.
   
   Finbarr Saunders comes to mind.
   
   At the very least, hubs classed into the health field should be immediately scanned by a human being if the robot does flag them. Instead, the choice is made to penalise the author first and leave them to try and sort matters. 
   
   Such a regimen is also theoretically limitless. Why not remove ads from hubs about shoes, for example? After all, there are many shoe fetishists out there who could well be seeking out shoe sales hubs to reach the heights of ecstasy.
   
   And a conversation with a typical eight-year-old of today will show that the whole concept of "protecting" minors from being "corrupted" is a joke. Actually, not just today. I remember decades ago, sometime round the age of 8-10, secreting myself into a distant, dark corner of the adult public library for a couple of hours in order to read through some of the racier sex education books from that time, followed not long after by "Lady Chatterley's Lover"
   
   It is also a pity that the thought police feels protection is needed at any age from simple facts of human reproduction. Meanwhile, we happily watch children being corrupted in so many worse ways...

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      lisabeamanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I think your last paragraph would make an excellent hub idea, Write Angled - You have a very valid point.

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   blake4dposted 14 years ago

   What none of you get, is everyone of you is already on a list with Google Adsense. And most of you, if you ever have another hub do that Google independent of Hub pages will close your adsense account permanently. Once they do that. Good luck, I know this pattern all too well. All of you are alreay in major violation of your TOS and dont seem to realize it. Not to be mean, but I know from expereience.

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      WriteAngledposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      So you are saying that Google will ban people for writing about health-related topics, while at the same time it happily accepts ads for "meet [insert nationality of your choice] girls" services, (which are in effect call-girl agencies), dodgy diet systems that are potentially harmful to health, gaming sites, sites offering loans at ridiculously high rates of interest, etc, etc?
      
      Hypocrisy is too weak a word to describe this.

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         theherbivorehippiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         If only I could have replied this politely....I would have.

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      Ritsosposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      sorry but there are sperm donor banks around the world and are taking seriously in the medical profession. My hub was about what is required of a person to be a sperm donor and how much they are paid. It is NOT about the physical act of sperm donation at all so there is no way it can be considered crude unless you are a fundamental right wing christian nut job!

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         celebritieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         What about using the word "baby maker" donations!

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      theherbivorehippiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      We are ALL in major violation? Whatever buddy....clearly you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

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    IzzyMposted 14 years ago

    Oh and with reference to a certain poster above, anyone who can be here 19 months and have written over 200 hubs, and still only reaches an author score of 77 does not deserve to be taken seriously.

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       theherbivorehippiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Right?!

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       Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Hey IzzyM, there would be a good reason for that. Most of what Blake4d write is poems.

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    livewithrichardposted 14 years ago

    Sperm is not one of Google's blacklisted words and alone will not cause adsense ads to be disabled.  HP has over 80 hubs on Sperm Donation and over 100 hubs on Sperm Whales and over 1000 hubs with Sperm in the title. It's when words are used out of context when problems arise. 
    
    A good way to check if a word is banned is to open Google and type it using Google instant. If the word by itself shows no other related terms in Google instant then it may be assumed that it is a banned term. 
    
    If Google finds banned terms in your content that is being served adsense ads, they will inform the domain owner and allow them a short period of time to make corrections and they will immediately start serving PSA's until the next time they crawl the content.
    
    Here is a list of known banned terms http://www.2600.com/googleblacklist/

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       IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Maybe I missed it, but I don't see "breast" as in "breast cancer", or "nipple", or "areola".
       
       Even "penis" needs a capital "S" at the end to be banned. In fact, this list seems to take a lot of perfectly normal words and bans the part capitalization of them.
       
       Some of those words I have never heard of. My education must be lacking LOL
       
       Just why are ads disabled on my hubs?

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          theherbivorehippiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Exactly my question. My hub on breast health was published nearly a year before the ads were disabled by Hubpages.

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             IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             You and me both...edit...three.
             
             I have no interest in porn far less in writing about it. Sexual health simply isn't porn by any stretch of the imagination.
             Not even sure that breast cancer comes under sexual health. I mean, all women have them, even nuns!

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                Hollie Thomasposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I had the same problem with a hub entitled " The best, low fat, guilt free ice cream" Try as I might I cannot see how this hub has an adult theme. I e-mailed hub pages about this almost two weeks ago, and after not receiving a reply, decided to publish it on infobarrrel!

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    Richieb799posted 14 years ago

    Izzy, do you know of anyway I can extract all the urls of my hubs so I have them at hand for pinging?

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       IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Richie, don't go all techy on me!!
       
       You can download all your urls to an excel file with a single button click using the 'export csv' button at the top left of stats, then copy/paste the urls into a ping site?

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          Richieb799posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          yes, I have a tool which makes pinging easy, thought I could ping them each day to help some of the older ones stay alive!

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             IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Sounds like too much work!
             
             Why not group all hubs you have on similar topics into feeds, and put those feeds through Feedburner, then send the new feeds to Twitterfeed and set it to Tweet every hour.
             
             Then take your Feedburner Feed and submit to a few feed aggregator sites.
             
             I have a hub about optimizing blogs that details it.

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    Richieb799posted 14 years ago

    I just put them into a mass pinging website. Oh by the way, I accidentally deleted the submission page on my site but its back up now

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    2besureposted 14 years ago

    No they won't allow the word, "sperm" "ejaculate", "erection"  You have to work around that word.

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    IzzyMposted 14 years ago

    tadpole??

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    Ritsosposted 14 years ago

    Well, it really does appear that HP don't like something about my hub .. or maybe it's me!
    
    Received a 'violation' notice for this one .. smiled and waited to read the reason, but it wasn't for that .. it was apparently:
    
    * An empty or short Hub
    * Poor spelling or grammar that interferes with the readability/credibility of the Hub
    * A Hub with awkward or difficult-to-read formatting
    * A Hub with a full-width link, news, comment, rss, or product capsule as the first capsule of the Hub
    * A Hub with broken links or missing videos
    
    ok
    
    * 342 words so not true
    * Not true .. won't claim it's great literature but it's decent unless they are going to scrap around 80% of their hubs
    * none of those on there
    * no links or vids
    
    so a load of crap to be honest .. also got one on my nichepursuits hub for 'links to prohibited sites'
    
    * Affiliate or promotional links in subject areas containing a high proportion of low quality or promotional content (for example, forex, acai berry, weight loss, etc)
    * Links to eBook sales pages and lead capture forms
    * Sites that contain pop-ups or pop-unders that interfere with site navigation (for example, when clicking the back or close buttons), or redirect users to unwanted websites
    * Links that initiate downloads or change user preferences
    
    There's a link to the nichepursuit blog and that's it
    
    Also notice another in account has turned red so I'll await the reason for that
    
    As far as I can see there is nothing wrong with teh above two so over to Wizzley they'll be going ... I've been quiet with the posting here waiting for things to get better and teh subdomain name idea seems a good idea in theory but I am now seriously wondering if HP is ghoing down the pan which is a shame .. I think I'll focus elsewhere until things get sorted.

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    Ritsosposted 14 years ago

    Hub deleted and will be used somewhere more productive

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    IzzyMposted 14 years ago

    I think 342 words for a hub is on the short side. I know a lot of people have been getting away with writing 200-400 word hubs, but all the successful hubbers on here could tell you that longer hubs do better - probably because with more content on the page, there is a greater opportunity for Google to pick up a wider range of keywords.
    I try and shoot for 700 words per hub, quite often a lot more. I have two hubs that are over 3000 words in length. It might be worth noting that those longer hubs are still on Google's 1st page, post-Panda.
    I wrote a daft wee Christmas-themed hub that had around 300 words on it, and it seemed ridiculously short to me. It was seasonal and did well at the time.
    I don't think it will do well this year with nearly all its Amazon ads removed.

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       Ritsosposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Hi Izzy .. Yes, it may be a little short but not short enough to be 'banned' ... I'm not 100% sure about google's preference for longer copy ... it's a well known fact that people tend to scan read on websites so my own instinct is that it's better to keep it short sweet and relevant rather than padded out with 'however, the reality probably is' and other stuff.  I've spotted quite a lot of pages that have a front page spot on google that have virtualy no text. I'm sure they do use it to weight the page but I suspect it's a very small weight ... Will be putting that on my own 'random topic' site later #
       
       ta

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          IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          No, your hubs are not short enough to be banned. Sorry to hear that happened.

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             Ritsosposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             You know what Izzy, I;m seriously thinking of ditching HP .... it seems more trouble than it's worth which is a shame as the forum is good.
             
             I just went to a hub to add some links to it and there's a notice in red saying
             
             Note: This Hub is currently published. However, if you make any changes to it, it will immediately be unpublished until it has been re-approved for publication (which can take 24-48 hours).
             
             Starting to wonder if it really is worth it and I'm coming to the conclusion that it isn't !!

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