What if I click on my own ADSENSE-ads, with sockpuppet accounts!!?

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   Albert Geniusposted 13 years ago

   I have a few hubs on my other account. What if I create many sockpuppet accounts on hubpages (which is easy of course), and click on the adsense and amazon ads on that accout's hubs?
   
   Money...

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      lovelyAnnette89posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think adsense will deduct money at least that has happened to many people i have heard about.  or do you mean creating accounts and clicking on your own adds??

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         Albert Geniusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         "or do you mean creating accounts and clicking on your own adds??"   -I just mean that. It's possible, given that you use IP -softwares, or multiple sim cards.

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      IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Go ahead. Make my day!
      
      You only get one Adsense account, and when it is gone, it is gone.
      
      And yours will be gone in a flash if you carry out this plan. But, hey, so what, you'll just make another....!

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         Albert Geniusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         

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      Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You would be committing fraud!
      
      
      Fortunately google will have a cache of this forum thread to refer to. 

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      psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Google knows your IP address and navigation history.
      
      Hell, even we know who you are.

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         Winter Maclenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The whole point of HubPages is to write.  Most of us actually do care about the integrity of our accounts. You might be able to game the system for a little while before someone caught you.  But they would.  And in the meantime, you make the rest of us, who do this for real reasons, look bad.

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      thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You will lose your adsense account and any earnings accrued.  Believe it or not but google does not decide who you are based on your Hubpages account.

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      georgethegentposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I've done nothing wrong and I'm banned - work that one out!!!

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   habeeposted 13 years ago

   Your IP adress will be the same. Google isn't stupid.

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      Albert Geniusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      How will they catch my IP if.

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         thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         There are more ways to track a connection than an IP address.  besides your usage will generally stay within an IP range, and unless you are willing to invest in new hardware for every click, your mac address will give you away.

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            Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Well, that's not entirely true.  Many, many routers can be configured with any MAC you want.  This feature is usually used when replacing an old router - it saves time with reconfiguring other devices, flushing arp etc.
            
            But your ISP knows where you are regardless.  Ticking off Google is one thing, ticking off the FBI is something else entirely.

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            Recommend Uposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            You got PC-users.
            
            " besides your usage will generally stay within an IP range"
            - How will you detect who is who within a given IP range?

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         georgethegentposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Albert Genius isn't.

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   LindaSmith1posted 13 years ago

   When your computer sends a request, such as a Google query, it tags the request with its IP address in order for the response to be sent back to your computer -- just like a return address on a letter

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   Albert Geniusposted 13 years ago

   Who is saying that you will be using your own IP address.

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      paxwillposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Google can detect the use of proxy servers.  The only way to make it work is to click your ads from different computers on different internet connections in a wide geographical area. You'd spend more on gas than you would make from Adsense.

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         Randiezposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I can buy a Cadbury where I live. Does google know that?

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   LindaSmith1posted 13 years ago

   Do it and find out.

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   Albert Geniusposted 13 years ago

   What says I did not.

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   LindaSmith1posted 13 years ago

   That is your problem.  I doubt if anybody really cares, except google. You get caught, then you get BANNED.  Who cares.

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   Albert Geniusposted 13 years ago

   Thanks for your wisdom Neither I care
   
   "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." -- Lord Kelvin
   If people like you filled this world, we could have never had.
   
   
   

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      lovelyAnnette89posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I know a lady who does that lol she created several accounts and would click on her own adds.  I think she got caught 1 yr later but she made $$$$ I wouldnt do it cuz i would be afraid lol

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         Randiezposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         +1

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         thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I sincerely doubt that, Google often takes legal action against professional click fraud, if that woman was getting paid by google then google knows her address and probably her bank details, they would have made sure they got that money back.

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            Recommend Uposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Mention a single legal case as such. Google can do that within the political territory that it originates from- US; not beyond. There are no international laws that prevent.

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      brittanytoddposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Have fun getting banned!

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The Wright Bros weren't ripping off or defrauding the air.....

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   againsttheoddsposted 13 years ago

   There are ways to do things but they are blackhat methods that still require work and are not as satisfying as delivering quality content.  Add to that the fact that Google engineers have PhDs in some of the toughest cutting edge fields of math and technology and they have devised algorithms to keep this to a minimum.

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      Randiezposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      In today's world PhDs are rather rare. Had they only brought Nobel prize winners, it might have made a significant moral improvement in their organization.

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    againsttheoddsposted 13 years ago

    Not only that you devalue the ad program for others.  What I mean is that meaningless ad clicks don't generate any income for the advertisers and as such they may tend to pay less or not at all for such ads.  I'm sure you don't care about that if considering "sockpuppets" but it is truth.

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    IsadoraPandoraposted 13 years ago

    Then that makes you a thief.

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    Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years ago

    Google knows which computer you use.  Assuming Google is stupid will be the dumbest shit you ever did.
    
    Trying to treat Marcellus Wallace like a bitch?
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMq7AQL-_Yg

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    Pamela N Redposted 13 years ago

    I have no idea. I prefer to follow the rules and stay out of trouble. From what I hear once you have lost your Adsense privileges it's hard to get them back.

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    Sottwayposted 13 years ago

    I'm pretty sure in runs on your I.P address.
    
    Which means even if you had 1,000 accounts they'd all be tracked from the same spot, so google will be able to rat you out easily.
    
    Don't try it!

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       IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       This guy is using multiple IP addresses to get round Hubpages bans, and now he thinks he can take on Google.
       
       To those reading this thread, DO NOT BE TEMPTED!!
       
       Google knows more about you than GOD, so no matter what tricks you use, they will find you out.
       
       As has been said already in this thread, this is not Google's money, this is advertisers money.
       
       Those advertisers could be you or me.
       
       Nobody wants to pay out to thieves like him. What he is suggesting is theft/fraud/whatever. It is illegal, it is immoral, and it should not be tolerated.

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          Freud-Wiseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          
          

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    taviasylumposted 13 years ago

    Simply, your account will get banned!

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    Freud-Wiseposted 13 years ago

    Google is no Christ. If they were really moral and good folks, they should have deleted all the p**n and s*x materials from their site. Did they? They can only tell you how to become a billionaire in minutes.
    
    It's good to them.

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       recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Using a proxy won't help as on my site I can see the IP that makes the visit AND the IP that originated the proxy IP.  I can't see how Google would recognise if you used a different computer on a different address entirely unless they scan for many clicks in one direction, my guess is that they can and do. the few clicks that might get under the radar would hardly be worth the bother I would say.

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          Randiezposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          How is weather in China?
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          

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       Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       What do you have against porn and sex?
       
       I believe we are talking ethics here, and not morality - there is a big difference.

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          Recommend Uposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          "What do you have against porn and sex?"
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          
          ..............................................................................................NOTHING!!

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          sighbabeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

           

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    LindaSmith1posted 13 years ago

    Bottom Line
    
    If you choose to be dishonest, and try to beat Google go ahead. Eventually they will catch up with you.
    
    Prisons are full of people who thought they could beat the system, break the law, but most of all, Get Away With what they were doing.
    
    Why feed this idiot anymore.  Some will try to beat google, others won't.

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       Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Right!
       
       I'm done here.

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       Recommend Uposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       

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       rockyieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       @LindaSmith1- You behaving like a moron here does not bump the issue, only shows that you are a grotesque spammer who fills up a good discussion with her pathetic comments when she is beaten with rational answers.
       
       Stop all your moanings, and learn to listen to people. Otherwise, take your .. outta here!
       
       Were you about to live HubPages someday?

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          sighbabeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Well rockyie, this hubber you are countering here is very negative. Her attitude has been reported by many others in the forums. She threatens to leave hubpages, but does not eventually.
          
          Let her alone

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    thejeffriestubeposted 13 years ago

    Obvious troll is obvious.

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       melbelposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       +1

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       Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Obviously 

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       Recommend Uposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       +1 

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    LindaSmith1posted 13 years ago

    Yeah, but the troll was reported, so why isnt it back under its Troll bridge where it belongs.

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    lovelyAnnette89posted 13 years ago

    Im new here you guys and im still lost when someone talks about a troll or something LOL

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       Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Welcome to Hubpages Annette!
       
       Hang around the forums long enough and you'll learn. There's always, at least one, roaming around.

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          lovelyAnnette89posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          HEHEHE   thanks for the welcome !

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       Rising Carenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       A troll is someone who writes/says something just to create trouble and keeps it going without regard to any other logical argument except to take them down and create further trouble.
       
       There are other definitions for troll because there are a lot of actions that are considered "trolling".
       
       Because the Original Poster made a post about something he is probably not serious about doing and how he keeps finding ways to keep the absurd idea going, he would most likely be a troll.
       
       However, if he's serious about his ideas and his techniques to keep himself from getting caught - so he didn't just make the thread to cause trouble - then he wouldn't be a troll.
       
       However, he would be dumb as most IP "hiding" websites and softwares do not fully hide the IP. They still have traces, which Google can probably detect since it is a software giant. They also have algorithms based on total visitors, time spent, time spent on ad, and other factors that can reveal if a hubber is getting a normal level of traffic.
       
       Either way, troll or dummy, his idea is a bad idea and it is best to not respond to him at all beyond the first reply.

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          lovelyAnnette89posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          thanks so much for telling me

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    sord87posted 13 years ago

    You can create as many accounts you want but be careful once Google Adsense catch you,you cannot even join Google Adsense for whole life!

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    Recommend Uposted 13 years ago

    That you can not ... guugle is a myth. If you will stick to it, do stick

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       rockyieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       +1!
       
       Google does not employ geniuses. They are crackheads trying to make money out of fooling out autistic masses. Sigh

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          lovelyAnnette89posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          i want to agree with you., that lady i told up there comments ago lol she made 5K a month using multiple acounts for about a yr .  How can google not catch that!!!  I would be so afraid LOL

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