Why are so many people from large families so defensive & go into attack mode when others
rightfully decry the former's abysmal socioeconomic & familial conditions of living on top of each other, constant socioeconomic struggle, inferior food, no medical care, castoff clothing, living in substandard conditions that make homeless shelters seem like palaces,etc.which they admitted to growing up in, saying that it was FINE when in fact, it was abnormal? In large famlies(6 children or more), poverty, socioeconomic struggle, inferior food/clothing, no medical care,& subsisting is a normal/acceptable lifestyle. Normal people see it for what it's, pure deprivation.
I think you answered your own question.
Wasn't meant as a compliment. You always seem focused on economics. Some of the happiest and most content people I've met come from large, economically depressed families.
We can all learn something from each other...when we aren't thinking our opinions are superior.
WELL, I am taking it as a compliment! Such people AREN'T happy if you believe that I have a Sutton Place apartment I can sell you for $400! What world are you living in? I had classmates who came from large, impoverished families. They were bitter children. They always had to borrow pencils from the more affluent children. They also had to be supplied notebooks & other materials by teachers. These children always asked other children for pencils & notebooks that their parents couldn't supply them. They also had to depend upon charitable donations to stay afloat. They don't have the things that normal children have. They see this & become jealous of the other children because they don't have these things. They oftentimes picked on the more affluent children because they didn't have even the necessities.
You really can't be this naive as an adult woman! Did you attend college or do you just have a high school education?! You want to delude yourself but such isn't the case. Large families have to do without, even the rudiments if they have them. Large families have no medical nor health care. They have inferior grade food or no food, oftentimes depending on food programs to get food. They can't provide their children w/educational tools which result in their children being academically behind other children.
Wtf, I am beyond astounded that you believe the nonsense that the "happiest" people you met were impoverished large families. They aren't happy; they putting up front to deal with their dire situation. Those who can do better, get educated & affluent & tell you how unhappy they were. My parents came from large, impoverished families & WEREN'T happy, they left the poverty behind & became solidly middle class w/one child(me). They told me how hard their lives were & wanted me to have a better life! I know plenty of people who came from large, impoverished families who told me that their childhoods were hellish. They became educated & middle class or better, they also gave their children a better life than they had. The large, impoverished families you knew didn't want to improve themselves & had a lifelong poverty mentality & mindset which is PREVALENT in large families. I surmise that it is that way in West Virginia where there are LARGE pockets of impoverished large families who believe that their lifestyle is normative instead of aberrant.
Large families must depend on government & outside assistance to stay socioeconomically afloat as their parents cannot support them adequately. Large families led a base, animal existence. No right thinking person is happy living a life of poverty. Live in reality. Poverty isn't pretty & have detrimental effects on the children. Intelligent people don't have MORE children than they can support & provide myriad opportunities for them to thrive.
I have witnessed children from poor, large families continuously ask people for money because they were never provided w/money. I also gave away clothes & donated other things to impoverished children in large families. People in large, impoverished families AREN'T happy. This is a stupid rationalization that people use in order not to face their hellish condition. No one wants to be poor! It is beyond futile explaining things to you....... I don't glorify poverty but apparently YOU DO! I see large families as a pathology, I believe in small families so that children can have myriad educational & socioeconomic opportunities. I know this concept is quite foreign to you, GOOD DAY!
P.S. You may like to associate w/people who are poor & don't believe in improving themselves educationally & socioeconomically but I only associate w/people who are constantly improving themselves educationally & socioeconomically i.e. solidly middle & upper middle class people. Poor people only hinders one's educational & socioeconomic success as they don't believe in these things. You are beyond belief. I have never met people such as yourself- this is beyond unreal! Some of the UNHAPPIEST people & children I met came from impoverished large families while some of the HAPPIEST, NICEST people & children I have met came from solidly middle & upper middle class small families.
Okee dokee. I believe people when they say they are happy. No matter their circumstances. I'm not one to push my standards and beliefs onto others. That's just me.
When people are in an environment no matter how hellish & haven't been exposed to another environment, they have to make the best of a situation until they can do better as this is the ONLY environment they know at the present time!
Thanks. You do realize that the world is peopled by humans with vastly different desires and needs? What satisfies one does not necessarily satisfy another?
I can agree w/you up to a certain point; however, I believe that children should be planned & not born into poverty, especially in America. I feel that children should be born in at least middle class homes & have the most opportunities possible. I believe in smaller families of 1-3 children so that they can have the attention they need to thrive. Right is right & wrong is wrong no matter what we may think & how we see things. By the way, are you from a large/very large family of 6-more children, just curious?
I'm from an affluent family with four kids. I had a noodle salad life, in many ways. However, we lived in a community of mostly poorer people. Many of my classmates were underprivileged. I actually knew people who had never even traveled to the nearest city.
Members of this community are happy and well adjusted. Would I want their lives, no. But, we can all learn something from each other. I think that they have valuable lessons to share.
Well, almost the same w/me except I am solidly middle class & had friends from poor, large families as a child. I am an only child. My parents came from very large families- my mother came from 10 & my father from 11. They are both deceased. It is nice to meet you, thank you so much. God bless & have a nice day.
Does a family of eight constitute a large family? Can't recall that we ever attacked anyone.
Mabye because they survived all the things you just listed their life is worth something, even if that is all they have. Many do not fill many graves. They can enjoy the many things God gives free. It does not cost money. And the greatest possession of all is when some one loves you . God Almighty loves us all. Even when humans fail. He is faithful. We still get the sun in the morning free, food to grow, rain ,and we still get the visual beauty of many things including a variety of plants, animals to care for. Money is a asset now but not forever. When it is gone, people who know how to live without it will be the first survivors. They will be rich in the end.
No one should live a less than human existence,that's abuse.However, to children in large/very large families such existence is a way of life.They know how they live is ABNORMALso they rationalize,deny it & put up a FRONT which all can SEE.
They may be rich for eternity, when many are rich for a moment . When you die there is no status, there is no debate of who is greater or not. But both have the same value as dust. The Great Depression will be greater Already money has no value.
I am the ninth out of ten children and we did not experience any of that, My parents worked-my dad was in sales in NYC and he also received VA benefits from serving in WWII-we always had food on the table, decent clothes to wear we were sent to private school when we were kids, lived in a fairly decent sized house in a decent neighborhood no we did not live on top of each other. But this was in the 1950's when the oldest were born and the 1960s when the rest were born. So the cost of living was lower than it is today.
You know, when I asked if you had a bias, you could have simply said, "Yes," instead of going to this extreme.
People from large families routinely make disparaging, prejudicial remarks about small families, stating that small families are materialistic, spoiled, & shallow because such families have the myriad educational, cultural, & socioeconomic opportunities that large families DON'T or WON'T ever have. People from large families regularly decry the lifestyle that small families have because the latter live a civilized, cultivated life beyond struggle & deprivation.
Those from large families are in the habit of denigrating small families on a regular basis. They view small families as somehow inauthentic families. However, when someone rightfully criticize large families, they go into attack mode. They become highly indignant, saying that people are prejudiced against large families. They even coin the stupid word, fecundophobia. They can criticize small families all the they want but don't anyone dare criticize their "sanctified" large family. They feel that they are beyond reproach while they can freely demonize small families.
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