Why does everyone need so much to be offended? Is this debate?

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  1. wesleyacarter profile image50
    wesleyacarterposted 8 years ago

    There is a strain of hubbers that seem to be out to argue instead of debate. To call one an idiot for having a different point of view. To defend against real questions with semantics. To speak as fools disguised by verbal acrobatics and mental gymnastics.

    Why do people need so much to be offended? to be attracted to drama?

    1. wesleyacarter profile image50
      wesleyacarterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      i should have avoided the word "everyone".

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        Star Witnessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        smile  Wesley...if you were talking about Allan B. last night...I think he's a teacher and is approaching some here (and some could use it, too) in that fashion.  That's why I said that thing about 'not all will be found to be students.'

        You explained yourself well afterward and clearly (to me) are not approaching expression in a dishonest way.  But sometimes our "words misunderstand us."

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image77
          Mikel G Robertsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          nicely said.

    2. XTASIS profile image54
      XTASISposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      don't you know Psychology ?

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        logic,commonsenseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Is she a Greek siren?

    3. Mark Knowles profile image61
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Who called you an idiot?

      1. wesleyacarter profile image50
        wesleyacarterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        my mom smile

        1. Mark Knowles profile image61
          Mark Knowlesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          She would know. smile

          1. wesleyacarter profile image50
            wesleyacarterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            i guess you would too, huh?

            1. Mark Knowles profile image61
              Mark Knowlesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              LOL

              So, is this the five minute argument or the full half hour?

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM

              1. wesleyacarter profile image50
                wesleyacarterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                pure. f---in. genius.

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                cosetteposted 8 years agoin reply to this
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          baconmidgetposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          LMAO

    4. kateperez profile image68
      kateperezposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I know that there are methods and rules to "debate" and if you are choosing to just show ignorance in a retort then it will not be appreciated.

      This is a good thought.

    5. Bovine Currency profile image56
      Bovine Currencyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Argument is debate, no?  One person presents argument, other person provides an alternative argument.  That is debate.

      1. wesleyacarter profile image50
        wesleyacarterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        well argument is a little different debate. it is mainly to destroy or disprove the other's point of view, while debate is not so hostile, i think. but yes, they are very similar concepts.

        in debate, the other person is regarded as intelligent - in argument, an idiot.

        1. Bovine Currency profile image56
          Bovine Currencyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          An argument is an individual activity.  I see the point you are getting at but it is not a matter of argument.

    6. relache profile image85
      relacheposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Welcome to the Internet.

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      blackorchidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I am sure they have their idiotic reasons or arrogance, but I am going to ignore the ones I have already witnessed and move on. Thanks.

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    Crazdwriterposted 8 years ago

    Today on As The Hubpages Turn lol

    1. kirstenblog profile image77
      kirstenblogposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lol To True! lol

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      baconmidgetposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      LMAO

  3. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 8 years ago

    Wes, I have asked this same question before. I enjoy a good debate, one where each side repsects the other's opinions, even when they don't agree. There's no  place for name-calling and personal insults.

    I'm a moderate conservative from the South, and one of my closest friends in the world is a Northern liberal. We debate politics for hours, with neither of us getting angry. We always find that we can find some common ground as Americans.

    1. wyanjen profile image82
      wyanjenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You say Northern liberal like it is a bad thing.
      lol lol

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        baconmidgetposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        lol

        1. atil profile image53
          atilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          roll

      2. habee profile image92
        habeeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Funny, Jen! I'm not saying it's a bad thing - just trying to illustrate how different Sandy and I are!

        1. wyanjen profile image82
          wyanjenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          lol I know, just teasing.

          I have a close friend who is constantly challenging me about religion. She does not seem to understand how I (or anyone) could possibly be a non-believer. We go at it pretty heavy sometimes.
          But, we both know that religion is only one part of who a person is. Even though we don't pull punches, we don't ever seem to get each other upset about it.
          We don't do the whole "agree to disagree" thing either. It just is what it is. smile

          I think "offended" is something that people choose to be.

  4. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago

    Unfortunately, true debate does not take place on this forum

    1. atil profile image53
      atilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I beg to differ

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      sandra rinckposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      use to though

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
        Uninvited Writerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I know, now it's just deflection and reiteration or "I'm right and you're stupid".

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          sandra rinckposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, and I have also gotten caught up in it.  sad  Being antagonized to the point of retaliation if you will.

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    Poppa Bluesposted 8 years ago

    Because people are passionate about their beliefs and often facts can be evasive, truths manipulated, and arguments then are nothing more than one's beliefs. When you attack one's beliefs it's as if you are attacking them personally and so debate breaks down.

  6. dyonder profile image73
    dyonderposted 8 years ago
    1. Cagsil profile image82
      Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lol lol

    2. avangend profile image58
      avangendposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Indeed. When one wrap his entire personality around an opinion - as well as around the idea of converting everyone else to that opinion - he has no room for emotional leeway should someone contradict him. Instead of being able to take a non-congruent comment as, "I disagree," they are forced to take it as "I think you are a complete idiot." Low self esteem = low quality debates.

      Hence, the "trolls" you find prowling around this site are, more often than not, trying to defend issues that are not only important to them, but have, in a sense, become them (i.e., political parties, race, religion, etc.)
      Those are my thoughts, anyway.

  7. Bovine Currency profile image56
    Bovine Currencyposted 8 years ago

    Two people can debate, one person can dispute the argument of another, that can be part of a debate.

    When it gets personal and individuals are attacked like you are saying, it is just poor argument.

    1. wesleyacarter profile image50
      wesleyacarterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      haha okay Bovine. semantics. you win

      1. Bovine Currency profile image56
        Bovine Currencyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I did not win anything, I am not competing.

        1. wesleyacarter profile image50
          wesleyacarterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          haha i'm just conceding man. it's okay.

          1. Bovine Currency profile image56
            Bovine Currencyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            It is OK.  You can concede if you like but I still did not win.  I am not competing big_smile

            1. wesleyacarter profile image50
              wesleyacarterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              sure man. your world, i'm just living in it. smile

              1. Bovine Currency profile image56
                Bovine Currencyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                You can't live in my world.  Door is closed, nobody invited lol

  8. Bovine Currency profile image56
    Bovine Currencyposted 8 years ago

    Call it what you like, an argument is what it is.

    Have a look at this if you like,

    I am not attacking you, I hope you do not see it that way.

    http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/itl/graphics/main.html

  9. barryrutherford profile image78
    barryrutherfordposted 8 years ago

    Similar to having differing views people have different standards of discourse.  To debate or present arguments in a coherent way requires practice and   a set of proper debating rules which people follow.  Techniques for sophisticated exchange of views need to be practiced in an academic like way.

    Here you have a variety bag of sweets whom we call hubers who we know little about other than mainly a non-descript Avatar and a set of posts which may or may not have been written by them.
    When that is all you have you can expect little more...

    1. Friendlyword profile image59
      Friendlywordposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I thought the forums were for plain old people to have discussions with each other. A debate with rules is not possible here. I for one, am not going to do research for week, preapare talking points, and notes and ... you see what I mean.  I actually like to mix it up here on the forums. There havent been too many really serious topics lately.

    2. avangend profile image58
      avangendposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with you on that. The minute logic is set aside to make way for unsupported opinion and emotional rants, the productivity of a debate vanishes. See also: Facebook, YouTube comments, etc.

  10. barryrutherford profile image78
    barryrutherfordposted 8 years ago

    Freindlyword.

    Well I guess they are for plain oold & young people to have discussions but as I have said you get a variety of ppeople with varying levels of communications skills some people cannot give a sentence without being offensive others would never be offensive no matter how hard you pushed them

    What do you mean when you say you like to mix it up on the forums.  Mix what up ?

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      Ghost32posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Barry, I'll play straight man here just in case you really don't know:  "Mix it up" is another way of saying "scuffle", or maybe "barfight", or just plain "mud wrestling".  lol

  11. barryrutherford profile image78
    barryrutherfordposted 8 years ago

    Thanks !  Ghost32

    another metaphor to add to the list of unknown knowns !




    By the way do you know what happened to the man who stole a Calendar at Christmas?



    He got 12 month's !

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      blackorchidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lol

 
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