The APPEAL of Religion to the LESSER

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  1. gmwilliams profile image83
    gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago

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    Studies have shown that religious people tend to be less educated, even less intelligent than those who aren't religious.   Also, it is evident that as people become more educated, they naturally become less religious because education makes people use logical conclusions instead of relying on suppositions which is prevalent in religions.  People who have the most education- Master's & Doctorate Degrees aren't religious at all.  They find religions to be preposterous.  The main gist is that education makes people less religious as it is the duty of education to make people think & reason which is the antithesis of religiosity which is to make people blindly accept & obey, not using intellect.  Agree/disagree?

    1. The0NatureBoy profile image55
      The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      When People are conditioned as babies through childhood to be blindly obedient to parents and elders regardless of the correctness of what they say - such as "do as I say and not as I do" - the discipline of both schools and religions appeals to them. In that case Religion appeals to those with less self-discipline.

      On the other hand, those who were allowed the freedom to explore will use school and religions' texts as guides for reasoning and exploring rather than accepting what others tell them.

      My parents attempted to discipline me as a child but when less that a year old - I'm supposing about 6 months old - I was left in a rails up baby-bed asleep with my older siblings out playing, my dad was working the fields and mother left to get something from the garden, I'm supposing, when I awoke and made sounds but no one came to rescue me. I then began crying and even scream-crying for what appeared a long time when I heard a voice say "you may as well be content, no one is coming to get you" so I found something to do until my mother came and praised me for not crying. I remember thinking, "you just don't know". It was that voice that caused me to remember to obey my parents but explore for myself when I could.

      I gave that experience because I've observed how the more externally disciplined a person is the more religious they become. I had a girl friend who killed herself because of devout religious parents who insisted she "do as I say and not as I do".

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        Ikoro Iyineledaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        You are saying that which is the exact opposite of the case - as is usual with all that is politically correct, which is all that you mostly see in print.

        Unlike that which thou would I believe, it is those that have been so blindly obedient to authorities like unto that of parents that they usually spend entire lives being rocked in cradles - they it is that have not the eyes with which to condemn, or to hearken unto religion. Even when supposedly religious, they it is that are the "bench-warmers" you find in churches, mosques, and the like. Not due to that which you call "less self-discipline." But simply because they are not exposed enough to know enough to be truly disciplined, or way-ward.

        On the other hand, "those who were allowed the freedom to explore will use school and religions' texts as guides for reasoning and exploring" - true, but not to the extent of being always religious; only to the extent of always choosing (with absolutely no excuse for the choice made) between right and wrong, good and evil, the blessing and the curse.

        You believe they always choose religion - that they always choose good? Don't deceive yourself. They choose wrong and evil in as many instances as they choose right and good. They (unlike those I referred to first) just have absolutely no excuse for the choices they make. For they know enough to make a choice.

        Thus, the summary of my position? It's not a case of education. It's a case of exposure.

        1. The0NatureBoy profile image55
          The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Ikoro, the definition of education is not what we are told - insinuated that - it is. The prefix edu means to bring forth from within and the cate means being able to reveal ones findings to others: it is not accepting instructions and believing and obeying blindly as school actually means. So you and I are saying the same thing.

          If you were to look at my well over 40 posted writings you would see I am far from politically or religiously correct. Yes, I agree the only way to be educated is objectively observing the outcomes participated in or observed then reasoning their cause, effects and consequences you are calling exposure, which means the same thing except I'm giving more details as how to become exposed.

          I'm suppose my comment didn't strike you as being what I intended for it to mean, I think now you see we agree.

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            Ikoro Iyineledaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            No, we do not agree. You continue to see no difference between those that are of they I live for (that the world imprisons to be rocked into the senility of usually educated ignorance) and those that have absolutely no excuse whatsoever for not worshipping GOD. Even when the two have what is called Education (regardless of that which thou may call Education) the one has about as much reason to be adjudged guilty over the blindness of irreligiousity as the lion thou locks up in a zoo has any reason to be deemed either cowardly or lazy for ever taking out of thy hands.

            1. The0NatureBoy profile image55
              The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Can you make that comprehensible to me, Ikoro, I'm not understanding what you are saying.

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                Ikoro Iyineledaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                I have come across a bit of thy writings on HubPages. Thou appears to be familiar with Christian Scripture. Therefore, thou should have come across this Word before,

                "they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world."

                If a man is not of the world, and - in addition to being not of the world - he maintains an entirely safe distance from both the means by which the flesh is soothed by the world, and any means by which the spirit is awakened; then he is they of whom thou believes have been "conditioned as babies through childhood to be blindly obedient to parents and elders regardless of the correctness of what they say." Not that I believe entirely in the words of thine that I have quoted. But I find it rather difficult to further clarify.

                1. The0NatureBoy profile image55
                  The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  It usually begins in early childhood then once they go to religious and/or public schools it is reinforced. That is why Genesis 2:24 suggest man are to leave our parent's, including teachings, and cling to the attribute their teachings boys don't do some things and girls don't do the opposite things cause man-children not to develop half of what they are suppose to develop in both girls and boys to become whole man within themselves. 

                  I don't maintain a safe distance, I'm in the lion's den where those who opposes their concept of truth ceases to exist, Washington, DC, US of A. For more than four years I spent most of my awaken hours in front of the White prison House and they still know where I am just like they knew where Jesus was.

                  Once a man is Spiritually Born they are afraid of no human/woman - not genders - and will throw their pearls to swine because someone will come along who know the value and use them. Often times when the swine attempt to trample the pearls they actually pushes them into the path of someone who know their value.

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Deciphering The0NatureBoy:
                    "Gender indoctrination usually begins in early childhood. Once they go to religious and/or public schools, it is reinforced.
                    Genesis 2:24 suggests humans are to leave their parent's, including the teachings of their parents, which advocate clinging to certain biased ideas. (Such as boys not doing some things and girls not doing the opposite things.) Gender indoctrinations prevent (hu)man-children, (both girls and boys) from developing half of what they are supposed to develop and prevent them from becoming whole men within themselves."

                    I have a problem with the phrase "supposed to." It is similar to the word "should."

                    Any mother will tell you that boys and girls are naturally different from one another. There is a general leaning and preference array according of the gender CHOICE the soul has made. (Apparently, sometimes the soul changes its mind once in the body, whether, male or female.)

                    *Side-note to myself:
                    It is good to accept life as it is. Constantly criticizing and demanding perfect (spiritual) behavior from fellow humans makes for one's own misery. One needs to accept that life on this plane will NEVER BE PERFECT. We would all be so much happier if we could just accept people as we find them. Meanwhile, it is good to encourage spiritual evolution by inspiring love, acceptance and intelligent wisdom by way of our own efforts to improve ourselves.
                    "The harvest is abundant, but the laborers are few," said Jesus.

    2. lovetherain profile image80
      lovetherainposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You are defining a group of people as "lesser". This is disgusting.

  2. Castlepaloma profile image74
    Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

    Intelligence — in rationally solving problems — can be understood as involving overcoming instinct and being intellectually curious and thus open to non-instinctive possibilities.

    I would think that non believers would have an advantage on the intellectual side of the process. Intellect is not everything to do with intelligences. As intelligent in design Religion has very little to do with spiritual and Universal truth and knowledge anwers.

    I find often enough highly educated people can be ignorant in a few ways. Because they have over focus in one areas of over indoctrination camp for over a dozen years. Rather than being trained in a widerange of diverse thinking and solutions.

    I sense, curiousity, love and work made visual,  as a source of evidence for intelligence. Not any kind of centralized group claiming their intelligences sepriority, exspeically the military intelligence. Or religious dominant Politics far from giving solutions.

    1. The0NatureBoy profile image55
      The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You got my acceptance!

      1. Castlepaloma profile image74
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Great! Was not sure, if anyone would OK this. Since the mass is trapped in some kind of centralized group. Like banks, religion, money or anything to take away their right for all life.

        Also to live with individualism and the freedom's of what goes in and out of our bodies.

        Like how I'm enjoying growing my cannabis plant in my front window, right now. Without helicopter roped Stormy troppers crashing through my roof. Then put me in a cage, and ruin my life over simple things like growing a medicine herb plant.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
          Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          - such a hippie

          1. Castlepaloma profile image74
            Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Part of me is a smart hippy. Don't know about NatureBoy

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
              Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              big_smile

            2. The0NatureBoy profile image55
              The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Since everything that is is a constant re-manifestation every thing is natural which means The0NatureBoy is; the suggests it is, zero suggest the complete, nature suggests it is and boy means an adult that produces the perm for the man specie therefore the 0 in my name suggests I am the completeness of all the attributes of man we know to be on this world.

 
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