Why are people trying to convince themselves that the FSM is not on par with their own religions?
There is not one logical reason that the Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster should be seen as any different from all of the other major religions. The concept follows the same path. And there is just as much evidence for FSM as there is for all others. Also, the fact that all the planets are shaped like meatballs is undeniable proof to Pastafarians of The Flying Spaghetti Monster's existence. Are you Christians, and others, just trying to convince yourselves that there is no FSM....after He woke you up this morning?! What? You want proof? You have NO right to ask for proof.
I actually wrote a whole hub about the logic behind the FSM, but I think the religious don't see it on par with their own deities because it was designed as an extreme parody to make a point. In one of my philosophy classes the teacher used a teapot as the example (you can't prove there ISN'T a teapot orbiting Saturn) and the FSM is the same logic. The difference, however, is the parody. Similar to Stephen Colbert, the FSM is a caricature to highlight the flaws in a powerful system. And, however valid that may be, it's going to ruffle a few feathers.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm spaghetti and meatballs! Thanks for the dinner idea!
Yeah, but my bumper sticker is better: "My God eats your flying spaghetti monster for breakfast!"
Which may be sacrilegious, as I think Thor is probably more of a bacon and eggs guy.
Because its disrespectful! I'm not overly religious and I get the joke! (it is a pretty silly idea). Still FSM makes a mockery of religion/believing in God that is very true and serious to the religious/believers of God. Religion is an experience and many people feel its important. If something is important to you, you get offended if someone makes fun it, its natural!
I don't think FSM is in par with other religions at ALL. Yea its a "religion" (I use that term LIGHTLY), but I don't think its equal. Why? I got a couple of reasons.
1. I don't take it seriously at all. I get the advocating for evolution and being against the teachings of intelligent design (which is kinda stupid, cuss isn't there supposed to separation of church and state, plus how do you teach in an educational setting when the material isn't even educational and more personal). I feel even the believers of this religion don't take it seriously either!
2. Its based on a guy's mockery of religions (especially Christianity). It's based on a tangent of a douchey letter (aka a rant), written by a man who against the teaching of intelligent design. He used religion as a joke, and it was not even that original of a joke. He just made up things as he went along. Religion has influenced societies in many ways. Without religion I don't think FSM will exist! People don't give enough credit to religion.
4. Again its disrespectful and makes a mockery of beliefs systems that are important to many people. Imagine if someone made a Church of the N-word? I know its not the same at all, but it carries serious offenses.
From my understanding that you are an atheist? (correct me if I am wrong) I just know you gonna have a lot to say with this!!!!
deecoleworld, this question was in response to other questions that have been asked recently. FSM is, in fact, a parody of established religions, but aside from that, the outlandish stories aren't any less truthful than established religions.
You can't prove stories from established religions to be true or false? So why should it matter? What's the problem?
The point is to simply prove how silly indoctrinated religious beliefs are. Since there is as much evidence for the existence of the FSM, that brings religion down to the level where it should be.Too bad that people are so attached to such nonsense
But you aren't proving anything, it sounds like another atheist complaining!
You get the joke yet it still flies over your head Dee.
Not surprising with all that hot air escaping...
Dee, call it complaining if you must. Religion has been a daily intrusion in our lives. They have that as a Right. Non believers also have that right. It seems to only become a problem when WE exercise OUR rights. INTRUSION is annoying isn't it?
From my impression, you Atheists seem just as bad as these religious nuts Always complaining about the other half. Religion is here and will always be here deal with it
@getitrite If you don't believe in it how is it a "daily intrusion" on your life?
Really, Dee? Just because I don't believe in religion is no reason that it can be ignored. I guess the fact that believers are constantly trying to indoctrinate our children in school is no intrusion at all, huh? Witnesses knocking on doors?
I am not saying ignore it, I am saying deal with it! It is an intrusion, but so is racism/sexism/etc. Just got to find a way to deal. I understand you are annoyed since they is supposed to BE separation of church and state) Do you live in the South?
Deal with it? How? By not ever saying anything? Religion probably won't ever go away, but religious affiliation has decreased, because of information on mass media.
And, yes, I am from the south, originally.
Just deal with it Perhaps create a sanctuary with like-minded individuals and also learning to accept religion as it is. I am not saying believe but respect it. You seem angry that people believe in religion/God There is nothing you can do about that
“Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.”
GiR, you are so funny. So blind. So illogical about something for which you are entirely clueless.
You are like the blind man spouting off about the lunacy of color. "There is no such thing as color. Red, green, chartreuse and fuchsia are all attempts to control the masses. They poison the mind."
Get a life. Go do something constructive with your time, rather than flaunting your Ego. That would be far more loving.
Lots of people take the Bible literally and don't understand a thing -- believers and skeptics alike. Dumb!
You cant prove any of those insulting things that you have leveled against me. Just like you cant prove the existence of your invisible friend. Take your anger out on your invisible friend not me.He's the one causing this confusion.Your God is DUMB!
This is a succinct analysis of the absurdity of organized religions. Each religion is based upon such mythological premise rather it is a "holy" book or some "preordained" law. However, religionists have interpreted their religion the way THEY saw fit. Also, religion was created, or rather instituted to instill fear into the masses in addition to power/authority over their lives. Yes, the Flying Spaghetti Monster religion is no more absurd than some of the religions we have presently. Organized religion is utter absurdity to the multillionth degree. Religion is what its leader wants it to be, no more, no less.
I think the atheist and agnostic community goes over the top with "GOD is not real argument". I feel sometimes they do get carried away by this innate sense of intellectual superiority that"Oh we are so rational, scientific and peaceful human beings, why don't the believers become just like us?" Just state your arguments man, You don't have to rub it in the face of a believer.
Please understand that it is the work of religious fundamentalists to spread their religion not of a person who claims he is rational. He should leave it on the judgment of his fellow human to accept or reject any theory while arguing only the rationale behind it not abusing each other( theist brothers) or showing intellectual superiority (atheist/agnostic brothers).
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