Uk Doctors safty concern about vaccines, the other story.

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   Castlepalomaposted 2 years ago

   DOCTORS FOR PATIENTS
   Press Release: 21/12/2022
   Two sides to every story.
   
   https://www.bitchute.com/video/4if6nzCdSaho/
   
   Many doctors, in the UK and internationally, have become increasingly concerned about the safety profile of Covid-19 vaccines and the continued rollout of these products to the public, including pregnant women and children. Several doctors in DFPUK have submitted multiple Yellow Card reports of adverse events to the MHRA, and have signed letters to the JCVI, MHRA, the RCOG, Prime Minister and others to express their concerns, but have seen little or no response or action taken.
   
   They have, therefore, now compiled the video below in which they share their individual perspectives, clinical experiences and serious ethical concerns, in the hope that urgent action will finally be taken by the authorities.
   
   This fulfils their duty, as outlined by the General Medical Council, for doctors to take prompt action when they see that patient safety is being compromised.

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      Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/s … ss-deaths/
      
      New Zealand covid booster spile in deaths.

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         Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Using data from research in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), an article in Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law (SPHPL) claimed that over 80% of pregnant women vaccinated against Covid-19 experienced spontaneous abortions, also known as miscarriages.
         
         I'm constantly ask to have apathy for big Pharma and politicians action on covid vaccines.  Even to the point of them asking for amnesty for our greatest economy and society damages in our lifetime, they have done todate. Yet, where is the compassion for most of the worlds population who are not for these covid vaccines.

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            wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            The closest I could come to your startling claim in your link was that "the group most likely to get a booster shot" had a 7% growth in death rates. 
            
            It does NOT say the vaccine caused it and it certainly does not say that births fell by 80% because of it.
            
            So where did you find that the birth rate fell by 80%?  Can you provide another link that does say that?

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               Stephen Tomkinsonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               A fact check on this (ludicrous) 80% figure:
               https://www.reuters.com/article/factche … SL1N2OX1WL

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   Rupert Taylorposted 2 years ago

   Thank you Stephen for finding and posting this, and to Reuters for doing the math. I knew that 80 percent figure had to be wrong and went to the New England Journal of Medicine to find the citation. Yes, the posting is rubbish, but I lack the medical/science skills to offer a cogent rebuttal to the claim.
   
   I shudder to think that some women were persuaded to not get vaccinated because of this misinformation and subsequently got COVID-19 and had a bad outcome.
   
   It's disgraceful that people perpetuate these phony stories across the internet without doing the research.

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      DrMark1961posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I shudder to think of the few women that do abort after the vaccine. Many people struggle to concieve and are happy to finally have the chance to bring a baby into this world. The 80% is wrong, but if you are one of the pregnant women that lost her child after the vaccine, do you think it was an acceptable loss?
      
      What is disgraceful here is that the social media companies worked with the governments to stifle any discussion of the efficacy of alternative treatments and the side effects of the vaccine.

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         Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         What is disgraceful here is that the social media companies worked with the governments to stifle any discussion of the efficacy of alternative treatments and the side effects of the vaccine.
         
         This is so true, I hear stats from both opposing sides. That go from extreme to all over the map where people have very little idea or know the what the G7 direction they are aiming for in controlling us.
         
         The birth rate has been cut in half from the 1950s. UN and WHO aims are to depopulate earth a great deal more to they acclaimed, to be safe. And it works out great for their corporatism overlords.

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   Stephen Tomkinsonposted 2 years ago

   Agreed, Rupert. The internet is a mixed blessing and people need to be more responsible.

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      Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I'm strongly a person about freedom and responsibility. And in the business/personal growth of holistic urban farming medicine, food and housing. The largest scammers on earth,  are the banks, Government and big Pharma,. I trust foremost being my own best doctor and leader for themself in the world. . Right now, authorities are sterilizeing water, food and vaccines and have been doing that for decades. And 1/3 of the economy is base on drugs. If you think a covid vaccines that has taken only months in the making, is going to fit all and fix all and be all. Where the adverage vaccines takes 20 years,  your just fooling yourselves. Call me a conspiracy theorists for not agreeing with fact checkers , who have been hired by billionaire to control the naritive, and turn people into sheep for life. Most of the world population is not going to buy in to it, in the long run. Call me a conspiracy theorists for  alway questioning the greedy bastards authority for good reason, their history. I dont trust the world synthetic,  toxic products of the greedy and their nosense laws for total control of a world order. I'm not selling off my ultimate responsibility and priority in life . That being, I'm bio organisms first and control my autonomy of our own bodies ultimately. Going along blindly with the over obeisance compliance theory, that I know from experience is a hazard to one's health.

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   Nathanvilleposted 2 years ago

   A small group of anti-vaxxers in the NHS; so what, there are always sceptics in any organisation – and with the NHS being the 9th largest employer in the world, with 1.7 million employees; so it should no surprise that a small percentage (small handful) will have controversial views.
   
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers
   
   In fact if you try fact-checking the ‘Doctors for Patients UK’ (DFPUK) group the only source information are on websites that promote covid misinformation; no reliable news media or web source even mentions them, and yes, they have not been taken seriously by the UK Government because their allegations are not based on tangible scientific ‘facts’.
   
   Most of the doctors appearing in the video are not prominent doctors; the one that is e.g. Professor Angus dalgleish, although he has had a long and fruitful career in the NHS, is nevertheless a hard-right wing nationalist who is highly politically motivated; and during the pandemic supported covid conspiracy theories.
   
   In short, the views of the DEFUK do not reflect the views of the vast majority of doctors and nurses working in the NHS.   
   
   And why are you still wasting peoples time discussing the pandemic; the pandemic is over and life has returned to normal – At least in Europe (albeit the pandemic is only just beginning in China, but that’s another story).

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      Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Much of the human struggle and suffering has been over imperialism. And UK has probably the longest reach worldwide for the longest time. I've been called dumb as a fox. Rather be that, than being called the foxes guarding the hen house and Sheep dens. Chicken and Sheep crowded in numbers greater than humans on earth, have got to be the dumbest animals on earth.
      
      American military is the largest corporation in the world. Walmart is 2nd largest with the same military tactics as the American military. They go in to your community,  and be the lowest prices for   years or less. Much of the other smaller businesses go out of business. Than Walmart raising there prices. The scarest words coming from the US Government, is we are coming to save you.

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         Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah, England ruled the world for centuries (The British Empire), and earned its wealth from the slave trade:  Past actions that most British people today have remorse for.
         
         But what does all that have to do with the pandemic, which in Europe is now over.

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            Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            It's not over, they are just adding more synthetic toxic things. Which I'm adding in the next thread.

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               Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Sorry, but in Europe the pandemic is over, we no longer have the pandemic and life has returned to normal, just as it was pre-pandemic.  So why are you still harping on about it?

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                  DrMark1961posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  It may be over in Europe but it is still being harped on by the politicians in the rest of the world. As far as I know the flights are open from China to Europe.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     The drug pushers and Government of Canada have been found out.   Because vaccines are against our constitution. That doesn't stop the Government and lobbyists from advertising it, like snake oil, at every venue  humanly possible. And greater now than ever before. I wonder if Trudeau being a bussiness vaccine investor has anything to do with it also..

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                     Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     Yep, the flights are open from China to Europe because Europeans are well vaccinated and now have a high level of immunity within our society; although to travel here the Chinease tourists will need to have a negative covid test before travel, and the situation is being carefully monitored by our governments.  But otherwise, life goes on as normal in Europe. 
                     
                     I would suggest that it's not the rest of teh world where politicians are harping on about it; Africa and other parts of the world no longer have any issues with covid either; I would suggest that if anywhere, it's on American continent that some are still trying to make an issue of it?
                     
                     Excluding China the deaths worldwide now, from covid is a fraction of what it was prior to the rollout of the vaccine, as is clear from the chart below:
                     
                     

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                        DrMark1961posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        China is not part of the American continent, neither is North Korea.
                        
                        Our newly elected Dictator-for-life is now stating that unless you are vaccinated you will not be able to renew your drivers license, get a new ID card, nor will the poor be able to receive government benefits. But to support your point, I am in south America.

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                           Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           I didn't say China was part of the American continent, I was just responding to your comment, where you said "As far as I know the flights are open from China to Europe.".
                           
                           Well I'm glad I don't live in Brazil then if that's the restrictions imposed there; a complete contrast to Europe, where the pandemic is a thing of the past, and no restrictions whatsoever on this side of the pond.

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                              Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                              If its not going to be one thing like vaccines for now it going to be another totalterrimism thing. Like Europe inflation protests are ongoing protests across Europe against the growing cost of living and inflation.The rise of prices has been attributed to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.The protests have been reported in France Germany ch"Europe inflation protests are ongoing protests across Europe against the growing cost of living and inflation. The rise of prices has been attributed to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.The protests have been reported in France, Germany, Romania, and Czech. When the people are more weaken, they will come back to vaccines of some made up kind.

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                                 Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                 You’re twisting the facts as usual.  It’s not protests against totalitarianism as you are suggesting; its protests and strike action for example by Trade Unions fighting for pay settlements to keep up with the high inflation e.g. inflation in the UK peaked at 11.1% in October. 
                                 
                                 And in some European countries the people protesting against the government, demanding government financial help against the 'cost of living crisis'.  That hasn't happened in the UK because the UK Conservative Government, right from the start, has been rather generous in it's financial handouts to 'all' during this crisis e.g. although I'm middle class the UK Government has given me almost $1,400 this year to compensate for the 'cost of living crisis'; low paid and the unemployed getting much bigger hands out than I had - and in April the Government is giving me a 10.1% pay rise on my State pension.
                                 
                                 Although we haven't had the protest in the UK, because the UK Government is already helping people through this crisis this winter (help in the short term); we have had widespread general strikes in all industries across Britain for the past six months because of the hyperinflation; most businesses have now made negotiated settlements with their unions e.g. the judges ended their month long strike when the government offered them a 15% pay rise.  Currently it’s just mainly the postal service, rail unions and the NHS who are still on strike in the UK fighting for descent pay rise.

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                                    Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                    What I know from experience in my aldult young about living cost. Most people own their home and today most homes own them. CEO made 25% more than the adverage person, to CEO make 500 times more. Most didn't have debt, today people do and the largest complaint too. Nation debt is greater than the citizens can pay back. About 65% of the people can't make ends meet if for one month they over sent more than $200 amonth. They are forced into bankrupt or have to sell their home. No wonder salvery is greater now,  than any other time in human history

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                                       Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                       That maybe so in Canada, and the USA, but you are forgetting that the EU & UK are ‘Nanny States’ (Welfare State); something that Americans ridicule often.
                                       
                                       The measure of wealth inequity, which you speak of, is called the Gini Index.
                                       
                                       On the Gini Index the USA score is 41.4 (which ranks 52nd in the world); while the UK score is 35.1 (100th in the world).  The higher the index figure the greater the inequality between rich and poor, and although as can be seen from the above figures there is greater wealth inequality in the USA compared to the UK, with around 200 countries in the world, to come 52nd (about a quarter way down seems quite respectable compared to the rest of the world.)
                                       
                                       However, getting back to your other points:  In the UK about 63% of the population own their own home, and once the mortgage is paid off they own it outright – so I don’t see what point you are trying to make?
                                       
                                       As regards your point that about 65% of people can’t make ends meet; yep at the moment, with the cost of living crisis due to the war in Ukraine about 60% of people in the UK are struggling to pay their monthly bills.  However, the UK Government is giving financial help to every household in the UK during the cost of living crisis to ease the problem during these hard times – so in the UK people are NOT forced into bankruptcy and do not have to sell their homes because of the current cost of living crisis.
                                       
                                       Another example of help that people get from the ‘Nanny State’ in the UK is that if you rent property rather than buy it, and you are on a low income or unemployed, then your local government will pay your rent for you; it’s called ‘Housing Benefit’.

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                        Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        The Vass majority of the continent of Africa already knew covid vaccines was a scam. Except the country of South Africa where 40% of the covid deaths where there with the highest rate of vaccines for the Africain continent.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           Would not want my Government to be my big brother, my parents nor my God. Got my own family to take care of. They do a great job of labeling, separating us and owning us. TRUDEAU must go.

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