What if USA fall like USSR ???

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   sushant143posted 14 years ago

   when USSR fall the only USA is remains only supper power & finally resulting Monopoly in world dominating ( resulting war with Iraq, &  Afghanistan etc,same doing with Korea, Iran)
   what you think if  if USA fall like USSR ???

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      pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      usa cannot fall..ussr was much bigger , didnt have democracy and ruled more by force..people were not happy with government and they had their regional dimensions to it...usa exists since centuries and its governance is role model fo the world..no matter how much people in other countries criticize usa or some even hate it , fact is most of them would love to go to usa..usa is standard of what democracy can do to a country..

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         alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Of course the USA can fall - any country can.  The old Soviet Union was beaten down by being made to compete in an expensive arms race, plus having to maintain a huge army, then being heavily impaired economically through sanctions etc.  The US can easily go the same way as it is maintaining the biggest army in the world and competing in a self-sustaining terrorist war.  On top of that the US has been a net exporter for over ten years now and so slowly going broke.  Anything is possible.

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            pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            well you are right that any country can fall..many have fallen in course of history..but i dont think usa would fall atleast for another 50 years..USSR falling is different case..USA doesnot have issues like USSR has had

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               sushant143posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               pisean282311
               it seems that  you are  considering the fall of USSR means splitting the nation (may be i'm wrong :-) ) actually faal of USSR is also fall of Power & what reason cause for USSR same reason is apply with USA !!

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                  pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  yes sushant you are right..i got confused of fall with split...

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               alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Of course the US does not have the same issues - it has its own and some of them have similar features, mostly lack of money to sustain the model it tries to maintain.
               
               Keeping Russian tanks etc in satellite countries cost more than the USSR could afford, keeping a lifestyle that cannot be sustained has similar consequences. If you take away things that people are used to having they object and often fight back. When institutions collapse huge segments of society suffer financial loss and deprivation.
               
               It can happen all too easily.

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            Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            The USSR fell because communism is inherently flawed and Reagan played them like a fiddle.

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               WizardOfOzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               what?

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            Jeff Berndtposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            "The US can easily go the same way as it is maintaining the biggest army in the world .... "
            
            AP, the US does not have the biggest army in the world, just the most expensive one.

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               alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               you may be right on this.

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               Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Just the best one

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            forlanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I agree with alternate poet. US can fall as roman has fallen hundred year ago. Ibn Khaldun , muslim scientist in mid century, said that the country is similar to human. Someday the country will fall.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

   Lol...you just keep believing that.

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      christopherantonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If climate change carries on, and gets worse all the countries in the temperate zones are going to come under extreme pressure from a movement of peoples from the tropical regions, which will be uninhabitable. This will not only affect The United States, but it will probably be one of the biggest casualities. Dont forget that one of the greatest factors which lead to the fall of The Roman Empire was the pressure of people coming into it from the outside. I would expect this to be happening within the next sixty years.

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      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Keep believing what?

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   optimus grimlockposted 14 years ago

   norstradomus says we'll fall so it could happen

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      luvpassionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Really? Which quatrain?

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   crmhaskeposted 14 years ago

   It isn't really a question of what if, but a question of when.

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   outdoorsguyposted 14 years ago

   well if it does.. Id say alot of countrys had better be ready to starve. since it would very doubtfull that the food shipments from the US would continue.  nor would all the finacial aid, that keeps so many foriegn governments up and running.  not to mention that future natural disasters would no longer have US troops and material to help out nor would it be likely the former US citizens would want to help any more or have the means to donate money to help out. 
   
   Id also bet wars would leap into the scene once more predatory countrys no longer had to worry about the US intervening to aid its allies or those who needed help no longer had a US to ask for help.
   
   Of course im sure Countrys like China would step into the void to aid other countrys in need.   or would they.

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      alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Most of the world outside the US sees the military aid, financial support etc as domination of smaller countries and paying off bad regimes that supposedly support the American way of life, like the right wing dictators in drug supplying countries I guess.
      
      If the US stayed home to attend its own affairs the world may well be a more peaceful place.

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         Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         http://www.america.gov/st/foraid-englis … 97553.html
         
         
         http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/145376.php

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         Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         And I'm trying not to say anything about WWII...

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         outdoorsguyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Personaly I dont give a flying Fig what they think, they darn sure scream for the US when Earthquakes level their citys and they are trapped and starving.  or a Tsunami wipes out while coast lines.  or Warlords are committing genocide.   or they cant feed themselves.   
         
         and the tune will sure change if the US is no longer there to help them out.

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            Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You said it bro.

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            ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Wow, you really are shallow.
            
            Just for the record, the American expenditure on foreign aide is significantly lower than the comparitive expenditure of other major economies such as the Eurozone and Japan.

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               Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I kindly provided a link for your edification.

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            alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You have an inflated view of the importance of the US in the world.  The benefit of the US around the world is more than outweighed by the harm.  Most of what you see as 'aid' is just about controlling trade so that the US can overprice its goods to the world.  The current issue is that this is no longer working - as China and others fill the gaps at realistic prices. If world interference stopped then the good stuff would be welcomed, and maybe the reputation of the US would recover.

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               Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Fortunately, your obvious hatred of the US (and the obvious reason for it) does not have the power to alter reality.

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                  alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I don't hate the US, far from it in fact - I do hate what shallow thinking self seeking morons are doing to it - and by extension the affect this had on the rest of the world.
                  
                  And you repeating the same drivel over and over does not address any of the issues.

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                     Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     "I don't hate the US, far from it in fact "
                     
                     
                     Yeah, one would never get that impression from your posts ...

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                        alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        No - that is the impression you are trying to put onto my posts all by yourself.  Along with your weird conspiracy theory nods and winks.

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                           Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           You're doing a fine job all by yourself

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         WizardOfOzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         well said.

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   kephriraposted 14 years ago

   The USA cannot 'fall', but China has already reached a level where the USA can no longer claim to be the world only superpower, and in a few decades time they will be one of 3 or 4 superpowers, and quite possibly no even the biggest one.

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   WizardOfOzposted 14 years ago

   Macedonia fell.  Turkey fell.  The USSR fell.  The US can fall and will fall.  Whatever nation has been in charge has always extended its reach too far.  The USA will fall.

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