Ok, here's the deal. The story's fine.... blah blah blah. Girl falls in love with vampire, werewolf falls in love with girl, forbidden love blah blah blah. My husband loves this sh!t. My problem is, I'm a goth girl from way back. And I am seriously disgusted with the animal eating, feelings-having, seriously ugly, glitter-wearing vampire. Vampires are supposed to be cold, calculating, calloused killers!!! (lmao at that sentence I just wrote)
Anyway, the point being this is the most botched vampire story I have ever had the displeasure of watching. I wish my 16 year old niece had never told me about it and I'd never have watched it. Besides, I WAS A VAMPIRE BEFORE THEY WERE COOL!
One last point I want to make - VAMPIRES DO NOT FREAKING SPARKLE
I am with you-no sparkling vampires. Have you read the PC Cast "House of Night" series? I've just started and since I'm not one to give up before the end, I now feel obligated to continue reading them. They aren't well written (like Twilight) and are definitely for teens, but the vampires have powers (almost like fictional witches) and can call spirits, perform rituals, and have a belief in one goddess. They also become vampires through a change in DNA that happens naturally to some people, not from being bitten by another vampire. Hmm...the watering down of vampire lore for the next generation? Maybe.
And a note for Twilight: I kind of really hate how the author wrapped up her story in the 4th book. It was somewhat disturbing, and just really unfortunate that all of her characters were given a sappy, tie every ending with a polka dot ribbon finish. Plus, she set Jacob up to be a great tragic character and didn't have the guts to follow through. Completely disappointing.
I'm a bit too old school to try to read any of the new vamp stories. Each time I've been incredibly dissapointed. The story you described seems like vamps have mated with shapeshifters. I'm a bit hard-headed about my monsters, I suppose...
I have a problem with kids wanting to be vampires now. Even us goth kids didn't want to be vampires, we just thought they rocked. The all-time best vampire, IMO, was the original Dracula. He was a sensual, manipulative, cold-blooded killer. The book itself was based on most of the vampire lore of old, with little modification.
Maybe you're right, maybe they are watering down monsters. I don't like it though.
I totally agree, tho' I still couldn't help falling for the Twilight trap. I'm still a sucker for any vampire story....but the movies are despicable, horrid and not even close to how I pictured the story in my mind's eye, what's an old goth girl to do? Kids now just don't get it.
I was a goth back in the '80's and now find the "vampire kids" totally weak! They just don't know the real meaning of the word.
Anyway, it's all Anne Rice's fault for starting it!
i hate them too. in fact, i even wrote a bad review on their second film. which sadly since i do try to be a film critic on here, that i have to see their next movie. i really don't want to, but i have no choice. lol however, i do agree with you. twilight sucks.
never once watched it...did they sparkle? Thats freaking hillarious!!!!
Okay, got it....you don't like Twilight. That's okay. I personally can't get into it - not after reading Harry Potter.
They're poorly written, and sexist. That's enough reason to hate them, in my humble opinion.
Rafini, it's more than not liking. I find them repulsive.
Maddie, so glad I'm not alone! I thought there was something wrong with me there for a minute.
It seriously annoys me, all the teenage girls and grown women who swoon over the Jacob/Edward characters. What, we're not good enough in and of ourselves? We need men to rescue us, watch over us, fight over us, "turn" us?
I wasn't too sure how this thread was going to go. lol and since I haven't read them I can't agree or disagree.
Not even watched any of the Twilight films as the idea of a love story featuring pasty faced teenage vampires just seems a little far fetched, what about old vampires who say I Vant to suck your blood...gimme old Christopher Lee Hammer horror films any day at least you knew were you were with them!!
Sorry you feel that way about Twilight. I personally have enjoyed it. Don't take it personally. It is all about entertainment and life is difficult without a little escape once in a while even it is in the arms of a blood sucking vampire. We don't all have the same tastes - whatever moves you is what you should do. I was intrigued by the story behind Twilight more than the story since it was the result of a dream. I wrote about it in one of my hubs.
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Maddi - my sister's best friend is in her forties and is obsessed with the idea of a 17 year old vampire taking her away. I think she's going through a midlife crisis. At least, I hope she is. Otherwise she has some real problems.
Waynet - STAY AWAY. One of two things will happen - you'll either be sucked in to all the hype like my husband was or you'll be sorely disappointed like I was.
elayne - no hard feelings. To each His/Her own. What I don't understand is why you're sorry I don't like it. You didn't write it, did you?
I personally found the last book to be my favorite. I think the movies have been decent and as a rule, my own personal OCD, I will own them all. Though, I can't wait for Breaking Dawn to come out. Its the real reason why I keep interested in the series. I don't think the hype and 'craze' is necessary, but I definitely enjoyed the series when I read it. Though, I like the vampire/human love story. Its the same with True Blood. I love that series too.
I saw the first movie, didn't read the book. The movie was not very good. I avoided the second movie, and thus also, the books. I don't feel I'm missing out on anything.
The series seems to be a clever enough marketing niche, but evenso, it's not such a fresh idea--evil being the "new good" and all. We certainly don't romanticize evil people in real life. We make them much worse (in many cases) than they really are. But it does say a lot about escaping our hum-drum, often difficult daily lives.
I don't think, however, that this series is that well-written, conceived, and it doesn't have a lot of underlying meaning or symbolism to help the readers/viewers consider their own lives. (Harry Potter and LOTR did a better job of this, I think.) Twilight sends a lot of negatives, in my opinion.
rgarnett - my sister says the same thing. I'm not as patient as she is. Unless there is some form of burning at the stake or wooden stakes through hearts, I'm just not diggin it.
Daniel - wise choice.
I'm with Maggie.
It creeps me out that so many young girls are reading these books about a guy who is, essentially, an abusive stalker, and thinking this is the height of romance. Jacob starts out better, but turns controlling and manipulative himself before the end, and then of course there's the whole pedophilia issue with him.
Well, there may only be a few of us, but it's better than being alone.
I watched the first one and haven't seen all of the second. I have not seen the follow up "Eclipse" either.
i never got in to twilight, watched the first film but it was incredibly 'blah'.
And I agree about the Glittery vampire thing as well by the way, even though I have never been in the slightest goth.
Cagsil - I am forced to watch them because my husband loves them. I could very well leave the room, but he's an ass... I'd never hear the end of it.
thisisoli - although you've never been goth, thanks for agreeing with a goth chick.
I don't even think he realizes how much he's made me hate the movie, either.
I haven't read the books but apparently (as with all books) they are much better than the movies. I saw the first movie and thought is was pretty bad, bad acting and obvious lead into the second movie. So with the first movie you feel empty after watching it. The acting was bad, especially the school scenes.
This vampire series is devoid of blood, gore and lesbianism which you get more than your fill with a Bram Stokers style of Dracula/Vampire movie.
Having said all that I believe Stephanie Meyer is a genius as she has tapped the preteen market for romance etc. She has 50 million reasons per annum to support this.
I have read her novel, The Host, and it is quite an ingenious, fresh idea for a novel, with some romance (which I believe isn't explored to its full potential). I found this novel to be well written and a good read.
I agree the Twilight series is over rated and I couldn't care to see anymore of the films (or read the books).
I really enjoyed the books and have fun watching the movies with my 16 year old and 18 year old. Most teens hate hanging out with Mom but these books and movies have given us something in common. It is all in good fun.
My hubby get's all hung up in the "Vampires don't sparkle" thing and I just remind him that this is fiction. So the author can make the vampires do what ever she wants.
I wont say I hate the movie I just dont give a crap about it either way! Would be a much better movie if it didnt have the love story in it, plus that Bella girl is total B*@$% in real life
Twilight.... i cant say i hate it but some concepts are poor directed.
Well.. have not seen the 2nd part yet
I have to say, the first Twilight movie is pretty bad. Even watching it with Rifftrax on, I couldn't get through the whole thing. The acting was too awful, and if you take away the crappy vampires and werewolves you get any other boring teen romance. For real character drama and traditional hardcore vampires, you might enjoy Interview with the Vampire.
I've never been a big fan of the whole concept of vampires-as-entertainment (whether that's the old-fashioned Dracula kind of story of whatever is out there now). I'm not particularly thrilled with the message young girls are getting these days. (My daughter isn't either - so it isn't necessarily "my age".)
i don't hate it, but i just don't see the big fuzz about it..
How about Lesbian Vampire Killers, much better and funny too!!!
better than pasty faced day time TV stars trying to be convincing vampires!!
I'm with you on this, wayne. But just add one detail: CHRISTIAN lesbian vampire killers. After all, vampires are of the devil. So the killers have to be on the good side, right?
I wouldn't say Twilight is great and I wouldn't say it's bad, but just ok.
I like vampires and werewolf stories ( esp. underworld and similar action films). But twilight painted vampires and werewolves in lamest possible way.
I personally cannot stand 'Twilight' but I am not a Vampire fan at all! I believe there are to many books/shows/movies that are painting dark pictures, but it is my own personal opinion.
I'm with you on this one. Twilight is one of the worst vampire plots I seen in years. It's kinda like Dawson's creek with fangs. The only somewhat decent vampire anything I've seen in a while is True Blood. However Bela Lugosi will always remain the one and only true vampire in my eyes.
I could care less about the Twilight series either. The hype annoys me more than anything. I know this teacher at my school who organized a twilight party where everyone dressed up as vampires and drank wine labeled as Type A or Type O or whatever. They had a fountain spewing blood colored drink and a lifesize carton picture of Ed, Bella and Jacob and took turns kissing it and taking pictures with it (weird). But what kind of struck me as odd, was that she had her 2 daughters there too, who were only 6 and 8 years old. and evidently they were right into the whole thing. I don't get it. Are we supposed to be letting our children watch these movies?
I don't hate it, I just avoid it. After you have read Anne Rice's Vampire books everything pales in comparison (no pun intended )
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