Who could win in a fight? Superman or a Jedi Knight?

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   Stevennix2001posted 12 years ago

   Okay, here's a fun question that a coworker and I had a few years ago.  Who could win in a fight if in theory these characters existed in the same universe?  A Jedi Knight from Star Wars or Superman?  Who do you pick would win in a fight and why?

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      Disturbiaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Superman!  He's got real super powers, Jedi Knights have nothing more than fancy flashlights and a bag of mind tricks.

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   Muldanianmanposted 12 years ago

   I don't think anyone who wears their underpants on the outside would win such a fight.

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      Disturbiaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Please, the guy is faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, he can wear his underpants anyway he wants, or not at all would be fine with me too.

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   manlypoetrymanposted 12 years ago

   Depends on which planet they are fighting on. Wasn't Superman's strength due to our yellow sun?

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      Disturbiaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, manly, you are correct, about the yellow sun.  Kryptonians, whose native star Rao had been red, only possess superpowers under the light of a yellow sun.  However, the source of Superman's powers originally came from his Kryptonian heritage, which made him more evolved than humans.

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   optimus grimlockposted 12 years ago

   superman in about 5 seconds. he would bewilder the jedi night with his quickness and mental toughness plus he would laugh at the light saber as it bounces off him.

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   wildernessposted 12 years ago

   Definitely the Jedi.  All he has to do is wait for Superman to enter the phone booth to change clothes and mind-lift it off of him.  Superman will then collapse from embarrassment and confusion as he tries to pull on his outside underpants while outside instead of inside.

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   Matt in Jaxposted 12 years ago

   Gotta go with Superman for his natural powers and abilities.

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   SomewayOuttaHereposted 12 years ago

   ...neither - Batman...nahnahnahnah Batman!

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      Matt in Jaxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Lol. Batman didn't even really have powers. Just money and gadgets.

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   Stevennix2001posted 12 years ago

   I think it would be a no brainer here, as I think Superman would clearly have the advantage here.  Plus if we're going off the Christopher Reeves' version, then Superman can breath in space, so if he was really a jerk, he could just throw a bunch of freaking meteors at whatever planet the Jedi inhabit and kill them.

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   Emile Rposted 12 years ago

   Is there cryptonite in a light saber? No one has ever said what they're made of.  That would make a difference.

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      Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, but you have to be up close to use it. Whereas Superman, his powers allow him to not only be affective up close, but he can attack easily from a distance whether it be laser eyes or cold breath, he can be lethal either way.

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         mrpopoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Jedi can deflect those lasers, can't they? And they might be able to evade his cold breath by jumping around or something.
         
         Yeah, with a Kryptonite in a light saber, the Jedi might have a chance.

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         Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You forget the force is with the Jedi. Mr. popo is right. Even if they weren't agile enough to evade the lasers or breath; they could probably bend the incoming attack with the wave of a hand,  or hover a boulder over to block it; if the force was with them.

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            Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, but superman can move faster than the speed of light; which in theory allows him to travel through time ala the flash.  he can just as easily stop the jedi from ever finishing their training, and they'd be no more.

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               Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I don't know. I saw him turn time back a little while.  Not years, but I don't read the comic books..I'll have to take your word on this power. I guess Superman wins.

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               mrpopoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Well in that case, the Jedi that existed prior to Superman would foresee a "disturbance in the Force" and kill him before he ever had a chance to develop his powers. Or, befriend him and train the greatest, most powerful Jedi ever to have lived.
               
               Besides, time travel? There are way too many problems with that! Just by him going back in time Superman would have altered the future, which could involve a number of scenarios like the Jedi coming to stop him or Clark Kent not becoming Superman...
               
               In any case, let's limit the fight without time travel to make it more plausible (as if this fight totally makes sense)

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                  sabrebIadeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Ooooo...Jedi Superman....
                  The mind reels at that prospect....

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                  Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Yeah, that's true.  Plus, as fast as superman would be moving, it would be hard for him to decipher which exact time period he'd finally end up in, as he could accidentally go too far if he's not careful. 
                  
                  Edit:  I'd have to agree with saberblade here on the concept of a jedi superman.  that would be very interesting to see, as he'd probably be damn near impossible to stop if he had the combined powers of his own and jedi abilities.  not that he's not already unstoppable, but even more so with jedi capabilities.

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    sabrebIadeposted 12 years ago

    Superman picks out the Jedi on the ground from Earth orbit with his telescopic vision.
    He locks in and dives at him at,oh say Mach 5.
    Before the Jedi can say "I sense a disturbance in the force" Supes rams through him at roughly 3,840 mph.

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       Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       But, would Superman do that? That's like hitting below the belt.

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          sabrebIadeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah see, youre right. 
          I always said that if Supes wasn't the Boy Scout that he is,he would be pretty darn close to unstoppable.
          But he has those morals and things.
          Now if Batman were Kryptonian....

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             tHErEDpILLposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Oh yes, I do thank you for sending me here.  No allow me to sink my teeth into this debate.

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    Shadesbreathposted 12 years ago

    The Jedi could mind-trick Superman into pulling his own head off.
    
    Jedi 1, Superman 0

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       Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, but those Jedi mind tricks only work on the simple minded, and Superman has an intellect that surpasses most humans.

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          sabrebIadeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Among Superman's powers..
          
          "Enhanced mental processes, defenses, and genius level intellect.
          Unlimited physical senses (sight, smell, touch, taste, hearing)."
          
          Mind Trick neutralized.

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    Shadesbreathposted 12 years ago

    A genius Jedi can handle it. Not to mention, he could get a bunch of his friends to help, because unlike Superman, Jedi are not one-man shows. So, they could gang-mind-F him, bring in a few geniuses. Genusi? Uhh... clearly I won't be invited, but nonetheless, still...
    
    Jedi 1, Superman 0

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       Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Oh i see, so that's how it is, huh?   I'll admit when I started this forum, I was thinking about what could happen if it was more of a one on one match.  However since you're bringing in the possibility of other Jedis joining in to help out, then it would stand to reason that Superman could still call on his friends too.  After all, you have to remember he is one of the founding leaders of the Justice League that has powerful members like Green Lantern, Flash, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Hawk Girl, Batman, Robin, Shazam, Supergirl, and many others. 
       
       edit:  Plus if green lantern gets involved, he can easily call in the entire green lantern corpse to help out the justice league as well.  thus outnumbering the jedi

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          sabrebIadeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Awww...
          Forget about the JLA!
          He can just call Supergirl, Power Girl, Superboy (Conner), Krypto the Superdog, Comet, the Superhorse, Streaky the Supercat, Beppo the Supermonkey and....ummmmm...wait a minute.
          Maybe you better call the JLA...LOL
          
          
          
          Yeah that's right!
          A super monkey and a super horse, both with capes!
          Suck on that Jedi!

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             Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Yeah, i hear ya saberblade.    Although I think the combination of Power Girl, Supergirl, Superboy and Superman would be very tough to handle for the Jedi knights. 

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             Matt in Jaxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Lol. I never even knew about a super monkey and a super horse. This fight is even more lop-sided now!

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    Diane Insideposted 12 years ago

    Superman, if the fight is here on earth, I think his powers would be limited out in space, so if the fight were in space that might be a whole other ball of wax.
    
    Then the Jedis might have an advantage.

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       Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       hi diane, hows it going?

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          Diane Insideposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Hi steven its good just hanging out for a few minutes. lol How are you?

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             Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Oh I'm doing great thanks. Just been kind of preoccupied with a few things today.  Getting ready for classes later this week, while checking up on some people.  Nothing too exciting trust me.  lol.  So what have you been up to lately?

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                Diane Insideposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                not much crawling around this gawdawful country. lol
                tims catching a few zzzz's so thought I'd check up on hubpages.  And spreading a few comments around. Trying to avoid confrontation, with certain hubbers. lol

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                   Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   Certain hubbers?  Aw I'm sure nobody around here has anything against ya.  Besides, they'd have to be borderline insane to have a problem with a sweet gal like yourself.

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                      Diane Insideposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                      aww thanks . lol still slick as ever I see.  lol but cute.

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                         Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                         lol. thanks.  Your not too bad yourself diane.

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    Len Cannonposted 12 years ago

    Superman is weak to "magic", by which I mean he takes the same amount of damage from magical spells and items as a normal person would.  If Jedi's powers are actually considered magic instead of weird biology, they might have a small edge on him.  The fact that lightsabers can cut through most organic substances also helps them.
    
    Of course, they'd have to hit him, which is... hard.

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       Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Oh yeah. I forgot about that silly weakness that superman has.  You do have a point about that, as I didn't even think of that.  that could spell problems if that was the case.

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       sabrebIadeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       The Force isn't magic, it's an energy field created by all living things, that surrounds and penetrates living beings and binds the galaxy together.
       The Force is channeled by microscopic bacteria in the bloodstream, midichlorians, so it's scientific.
       (Another reason the last three Star Wars sucked. Thanks George!)
       And yes lightsabers can cut through most organic substances, but so can lasers and The Man of Steel sheds them like a duck sheds water.
       He could grab the blade of the lightsaber and beat the Jedi to death with the handle.
       
       BTW, what wiped almost all the Jedi?
       Order 66...Clone Troopers with blasters?
       Thugs with ray guns?

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          Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah, you do have a point there.  I forgot how George Lucas turned the Force into something that was more scientific based in the prequels.   Did you hear about the movies being rerelaesed in 3-d coming out soon?

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             sabrebIadeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Yeah, I have mixed feelings.
             It seems like every time he does something he screws the storyline up more and more.
             But being in 3-D cant hurt it.
             Or can it.....?

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                Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                idk, i just know that there's rumors that he's thinking about adding extra scenes again for the 3-d releases, and this is part of his plan to rerelease the dvds in 3-d to make even more money.  i guess lucas has turned over to the dark side of cinema these days.

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    tHErEDpILLposted 12 years ago

    Hmm, this is a tough one.
    
    First off I could see this fight happening if they all existed in the same world.  Superman would probably disagree with the Jedi's methods and the Jedi's might not understand this and decide that Superman is a 'Force' that needs to be stopped.  The probably is, Superman is an unstoppable force. 
    
    Lets go...
    
    1. Supes invulnerability would help him out as far as hand to hand combat goes but then I have to wonder if the light saber harnesses enough power to pierce his skin.  I don't think so since if I am correct the light saber it self is not magical, which is something Superman always has a problem with.
    
    2. Supes is too fast for any of them.  It doesn't matter if they sense him coming, if they can not move fast enough to do anything.
    
    3. Supes could use his heat vision, his strength, or his cold breath to kill the Jedi Knight if it came down to it but, the question is would he.  Most likely this scenario would end up being all of the Jedi's against Supe (that's the only way they would have a chance).  Supes would not kill any of them even if he had the chance.  Most likely at the end of this story Supes would find some way to send them to the phantom zone or something.

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       tHErEDpILLposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       My last point makes me wonder, did Superman kill Zod and the other two Kryptonians at the end of Superman II?

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          sabrebIadeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          In the comics Superman had the Phantom Zone projector that he could have used to send the criminals back to the Phantom Zone.
          But he didn't in the movie.
          So I have to wonder too.
          But he did remove their powers with that red light, so a normal prison could have held them.

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       Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       You know, out of all the people that posted here, I think you probably gave the best response thus far, as I tend to agree with many of your assessments.

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    Shadesbreathposted 12 years ago

    I'm still laughing about the super monkey and super horse. The very appearance of Super Monkey and Super Horse would destroy all Jedi instantly, their minds would explode from ridiculousness of proptions that huge and they would all die.

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       sabrebIadeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Let's not forget Streaky the Supercat.
       My God...what were those writers smoking back then?
       Not to mention Beppo's nickname was...get ready..."The Monk of Might".
       It musta been high quality stuff!

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          tHErEDpILLposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          No more weird than the Hollywood script writers today who remake remakes and find ways to make sequels out of movies that had a clear ending.  Then when all else fails the new thing to do is prequels or the new favorite BS move..."reboot."

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    SomewayOuttaHereposted 12 years ago

    ..nahnahnahnahnahnah Batman!

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       Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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    mcrawford76posted 12 years ago

    Just a thought here, but the Jedi very deliberate and calculating. It would be naive to assume that they would not know that Kriptonite is Superman's weakness.
    
    So with that in mind would they not create a light saber with a Kriptonite chrystal?

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       Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Well as someone else said earlier, we really don't know what material the light saber is already made of, as one person suggested on here that the light sabers could already possess elements of kryptonite in it.  If that's the case, then that could be a huge advantage for the jedi if they can manage to keep the fight a close one rather than fighting superman from a distance.

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       tHErEDpILLposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Whoa!!   Never thought of that!  Kryptonite light saber, dagger, or sword could really hurt Supes.  This is getting interesting.

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    mcrawford76posted 12 years ago

    They could use force powers as well to surround themselves with shards of Kriptonite.

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