MIchael Bay: Misunderstood genuis of cinema? Or over rated hack?

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   Stevennix2001posted 13 years ago

   Okay, here's a forum where I want everyone to be brutally honest about how they feel about Michael Bay.  Is he a misunderstood genius because all his films do make money, yet critics always seem harsh on his films.  OR, is he really just an over rated hack, who represents everything wrong with cinema today? You decide.

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      Fullerman5000posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      michael bay is not a brilliant film maker. However, he does make great "popcorn" films. He is good at entertaining and making great action films.

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         Stevennix2001posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah, I agree with that. I don't think Bay really expects to ever be one those great iconic directors that makes great films like "Gone with the Wind", or anything like that.  I think he just makes movies for the sake of making money because he knows how to market the films visually to the point that even if you hate him, it'll still entice SOMEBODY to see the movie.

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      FatFreddysCatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I really liked "The Rock," in fact that's still one of my favorite action flicks of the 90s. What I've seen of his stuff since then has really done nothing for me. I've seen two of the three "Transformers" flicks (for the sake of my nine year old son) and to me, it felt like I was watching someone play an XBox for two and a half hours each time. All I remember of either film is the sounds of lots of metal clanging together and some images of Megan Fox's sweaty cleavage.

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         Stevennix2001posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Well at the risk of sounding sexist, I think metal clanging and Megan Fox's body is pretty much what most people remember when it comes to those movies. In fact, when I wrote my review on Bay's second transformers movie, I found a movie poster that read "More explosions.  More robots, and much more....MEGAN FOX!"    Now, that's truth in advertising right there. 
         
         Plus, in the third movie, I could not believe the scene introducing Rosie Huntington-Whitley, as Bay practically had the camera right in front of bum the whole time while she was walking in her panties and a button up long sleep shirt.  Bay sure is a louse. 

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   Stevennix2001posted 13 years ago

   I guess nobody has anything to say?

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   innersmiffposted 13 years ago

   He's not really a film maker. He's a music video director with a crude sense of humour.

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      Stevennix2001posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, it's really a matter of opinion.  To be honest, I don't think he's a great film maker either, and I would argue that he's probably one of the most over rated film makers out there; even though I did like a few of his films like "Armaggedon", "The Rock", and both "Bad Boys" films, but that was only because of the actors involved in each of those films carried it. However, I can see what you're getting at.
      
      But, we have to give credit where credit is due...everything he touches makes money.  Nobody can ever deny that...

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         innersmiffposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         No, nobody can deny that. Whether that proves anything is a different matter.
         
         I quite like 'The Rock', I have to say, but it would have been much better without that ridiculous car chase in the middle of the movie.

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   optimus grimlockposted 13 years ago

   3 was 10x better then 1 or 2 freddy. Bay makes action movies and hes great at it. I dont see him making any other kinds of movies so you can say he's a great director!!! Critics are 100% useless they break a movie down way to much! A critic should just say what they thought about the film, how the story was and if they recommend it or not. Like jay-z said "critics can kiss my whole ....."

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   Stevennix2001posted 12 years ago

   anyone else got anything to add?

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   Zelkiiroposted 12 years ago

   No, there is no genius to Michael Bay. His films are garbage, pure and simple, end of story. Terrible cinematography, lousy angles, incoherent storylines, disposable characters, physically painful writing, and those are only his good directorial traits.
   
   Let's not even try to delve into his racism, misogyny, and blind, unintelligible nationalism.

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      Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      you bring up a good point, but why is it that everything the man is involved in seems make a crap load of money?  I mean almost every film critic and most audiences say his movies are crap, but they still make a lot of money anyway?  Not saying that money is the ultimate factor that determines if a movie is good or not, as some of my favorite films were low budget ones, but there has to be a reason behind Bay's success.
      
      Personally, I'm with you.  I don't think Bay is a great director, but whether you like him or not, you can at least say that he knows who his target audience is, and he knows how to always make films that consistently hit with that demographic.

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   Paradise7posted 12 years ago

   He makes what sells.  He's in it for the money, and probably could really give two hoots about what the critics (or moviegoers with taste, like you) think.  He probably knows better, but laughs all the way to the bank.
   
   I have to say it:  moviegoers with taste obviously aren't the majority of moviegoers.  Otherwise, he'd be cryin' all the way to the bank.  People simply want to be entertained when they go to the movies, I guess.

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   torrilynnposted 12 years ago

   i think that Michael Bay is very creative and knows what we like to see as fans of actions movies or romance. i agree with Paradise7 when he says he problaby doesn't care about what others think as long as people are going to see his movies and he is making money.

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      Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      romance?  what romantic films has he done?  I mean i know some of his films have romantic elements mixed into them, but i wouldn't call them romances.  Sure, from what I heard, he did make "Pearl Harbor", which was kind of a love story from what I was told, but did he make any other romances though?

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   torrilynnposted 12 years ago

   stevennix2001, sorry for the confusion i was speaking of the movie Pearl Harbor and of the movie Transformers i shouldnt have classified those as being romance movies more or so of movies with alot of action with two people that care about each other involved in each movie.

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    The Taco Taggerposted 12 years ago

    So apparently Bay is doing a TMNT movie? I don't see how anything he does with this movie is going to be good. Apparently Megan Fox will be April O'Neil so yea, casting is the worst area. I'm sure it'll be garbage, but I'll also probably go see it because I loved TMNT more than Transformers as a kid. Also on the topic of directing career? He's terrible. He plays on old stereotypical tropes and accidentally (or on purpose) makes some of his characters racist. The only movies I've really enjoyed by him are the Bad Boys movies.

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       Stevennix2001posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah, I heard about Megan Fox being cast to play April as well.  I have a lot of mixed feelings about that to be honest.  Plus, I'm kind of surprised he wanted to cast her considering she has slandered him publicly by comparing him to Adolf Hitler all the time in various interviews, yet he still texts her, and he casts her for parts like this...
       
       Tends to make me wonder if there's more going on there than meets the eye.... No pun intended.
       
       I think your right that Bay most likely will ruin the turtles based on what I've been reading about the changes so far, but I'll try to keep an open mind upon seeing the film to see how it works out.

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