someone lifted one of my hubs for a blog

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Painted Seahorseposted 14 years ago
Another hubber alerted me to a blog that had lifted paragraphs from one of my hubs word for word without crediting me.

What can I do about this? Thanks.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you sure he/she lifted them.?
  
  It is not unreasonable that two people would think to articulate a subject in the same fashion and vernacular.
  
  Even if he did there is not much you could do. your word against his. You don't copyright your hubs. So...
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  Painted Seahorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sure. It's word for word the same as my hub.
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  Ball In Skyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  PS ~
  
  I sent you a reply mail explaining how you can have that removed. And if you have any problems I will gladly help you further with it.
  
  It IS your work product.
  
  Best Wishes.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry but this is the worst advice on Copyright I have ever seen, it takes literally 30 seconds to prove that you published something online before somebody else, all of our hubs are automatically copyrighted, and it is 100% impossible for somebody to accidentally write a whole article of identical words in an identical order. Pretty much everything that you just said is wrong.
  
  If in doubt, http://hubpages.com/hub/How-To-Deal-With-Plagiarism and yes that is my hubpage, although I consider this a fully solicitored and justified response.
  
  The internet has its own archive you know, publicly accessible, every single page of indexed content can be searched at the touch of a button with 100% accurate time stamps.
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  sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I was just about to say the same thing and point them your way.
  
  You dont copyright your hubs! Where do you get your information from! (copyright beastie boys "So What'cha Want" )
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  embitcaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Copyright is implicit. You do not need to register a copyright. It already exists the minute you write something and publish it.
  
  From the US Copyright office:
  When is my work protected?
  Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.
  
  http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-g … l#register
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  sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  you seem to have misread me.
  
  twas an exclamation of disbelief
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  HubPages Copyrights the Hubs, just in case you did not know.
  
  However, there are some hubbers who suggest going to copyright.com and for more protection.
  
  With that said, I would contact them and let them know the situation. And, the proof you require is the date of your published hub, providing it has been up longer than the blog.
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  file a complaint and leave a comment if the blog allows comments with a link to your hub. I had to do that once and the guy took it down quickly.
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KCC Big Countryposted 14 years ago
The site should have a place to file a DMCA complaint. File a complaint. Ordinarily, when a complaint is filed, it is removed immediately.
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  Painted Seahorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks, I'll look into it.
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Painted Seahorseposted 14 years ago
I filed a complaint on the site. Hopefully it'll be removed quickly. Thanks for the help!
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  Ball In Skyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I will keep an eye on it......and let you know if it does not get removed in 24 hours. But I do think it will now.
  
  Keep writing.
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  ReuVeraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How can you find out that your writing was plagiarized? Any way to do it, besides that somebody catches it by chance?
  
  P.S. Actually, after I wrote it, I found a hub by ryankett. Thanks.
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thisisoliposted 14 years ago
Copyright infringement is illegal, if the blog doesn't take it down the do a DNS lookup (whois.domaintools.com is who I use) and contact the hosting provider (not the domain provider).

The host will remove the site if the copyrighted content it not removed.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is it copyrighted?
  
  I don't know.
  
  But I don't thik so.
  
  It costs to copyright and I don't know of anyone on here that does it for hubs.
  
  So I don't think you will have much luck and it isn't illegal to plaigerize.
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  relacheposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think you need to read up on copyrights.
  
  A writer/artist/creator owns the copyrights on their work, even if you don't register them with the copyright department of the government.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  we are talking about legal recouse.
  
  Proof... What you can prove is what counts.
  
  He denies he stole the work. What is your recouse..."na ah yeah he did."
  
  That doesn't cut it.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And did you bother to read my article? I bet you didn't.
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  embitcaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The timestamp on the hub is proof. Try reading instead of just claiming a bunch of BS.
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  IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is that what you do? Is that why your author score is so low?
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KCC Big Countryposted 14 years ago
TMMason...I think you better stop and do some research on that! You're scaring me! You've got some bad info.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  On what?
  
  Copyrights.
  
  it doesn't just appear with the words bro.
  
  You have to file for it. US copyright office. Now through agreement the Hub pages site might own your work and hold some copyright. But in general, you don't get it copy righted automatically.
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  KCC Big Countryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Again, you better look into it, TM Mason, and I'm not your bro.
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  sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  perhaps you should use the google search a bit more.
  
  You wont come off as so ill informed
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And I can get 20 different opinion off google per page.
  
  So... that isn't the genious idea you all think it is.
  
  Oh I know that... I googled it.
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  MyWebsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then go to the official U.S. copyright.gov web site and READ and stop spewing out misinformation: When Is My Work Protected
  
  You probably should go read the whole Copyright FAQ too since your so full of wrong ideas concerning U.S. Copyright law!
  
  If you take some time to read there you will learn that content is automatically copyrighted "...the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form..." (this includes online publishing) without having to officially register it.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah thats what I used to believe.
  
  And that is exactly where I read it when I used to believe it.
  
  Man get a life.
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  MyWebsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  For one I don't like your attitude and how you come off. You come across as a class A .....
  
  Two your so full of misinformation it isn't funny.
  
  Three if your so hard headed not to believe the official U.S. copyright.gov web site there is little hope for you.
  
  Four HubPages.com does not own the copyright to any of the content published to our hubs. A quick read of the TOU agreement you said you read and agreed to when you signed up here would have educated you to this fact.
  
  Five You Author score of 20 speaks volumes. I could only guess why your score is so low considering what you believe to be right concerning copyright law and plagiarism.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  1 I don't care what you like.
  
  2 I really don't care for you
  
  3 You believe what you want' I did once and will not again.
  
  You are a riot. I haven't met anyone as funny as you in about an hour. Give it up and go lecture someone else.
  
  Do I have to register with your office to be protected?
  
  No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section
  
  Pay especially close attention to this part...
  
  You will have to register, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section
  
  Duhh...
  
  man you need to read the entire thread and catch up to the rest of us.
  
  I don't care about policies... as far as the law is concerned you need a copyright. All of you should read that.
  
  Except you, cyber
  
  Wake up.
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  MyWebsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes I forgot everyone here is wrong besides you and Cyber Lawyer. Forgive my ignorance.
  
  Besides the only point Cyber agreed with you on was that a copyright was needed to file a suit.
  
  It is not needed to enforce copyrighted content through a DMCA action.
  
  There is nothing in copyright law that says you must register the moment content is published. It actually says if it is registered within the first 5 years this is considered prima facie evidence in a court of law.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What-ever my webs.
  
  You guys can learn the hard way. Most do. I did.
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  MyWebsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yea whatever. Everyone is telling you are wrong and the official copyright.gov web site backs me up. Only your ramblings back you up.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How does it back you up.
  
  Do you not know how to comprehend?
  
  If you want legal recourse you better have a copyright.
  
  If you think you can wait 5 years go ahead. When someone steals it and you go and get your copyright only to find out they have already filed.
  
  You lose.
  
  Do you understand the term "in general" or "You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work", that is pretty basic.
  
  Believe me.
  
  I could care less whether nor ot any of you copyright anything. My work which matters is copyrighted and anything else I ever author of any importance will be also.
  
  You guys don't have to do a thing. I don't know why it bothers you all so much that I gave the advice to get your shit copyrighted if you think it is that valuble.
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  embitcaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, you do not. This is word for word from the US Copyright office.
  
  When is my work protected?
  Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.
  
  http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-g … l#register
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TMMasonposted 14 years ago
I don't have to lok into it KC. You let me know when you get any kind of penalty for this plaigerism, or intellectual theft.

I don't see it happening.

I have copyrights and they didn't just appear. Yes you can think.. "well I typed it and the date is on the computer, or in the file of hubpages etc. But in the end. If you didn't copyright a piece of work and someone steals it, then goodluck on redress and recovery.

I just don't see much for recouse... if you can do it... fine. But...
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  KCC Big Countryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I've had plenty of dealings with my stuff being copied and have filed complaints and had it removed. The system works. You don't have to file for copyright for your work to be protected. Read up on it before you just assume. Many of us have had personal dealings with it to know.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't really care KCC. Why is it you are so hard on to get this across. If you can get it removed... fine. Then do it and stop complaining about it.
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  KCC Big Countryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not complaining about it. Several of us were helping the person who started this thread when you came in with incorrect info. I have merely been trying to HELP YOU out! You have been mis-informed.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I was the first post here man.
  
  Check your watch.
  
  To bad if you don't like the info I posted.
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  IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  When the 'info' you posted was blatantly wrong, it would have been better if you hadn't posted at all.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I still don't think it is wrong.
  
  I even mentioned hubpages may have a copyrioght on it...
  
  Read before you speak.
  
  I have seen nothing that shows me it is wrong.
  
  Again...
  
  He denies he stole the work. What is your recouse..."na ah yeah he did."
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  Cyber Lawyerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  TMMason does have a point. While registering copyright is not a precondition for enjoying copyright protection, registration for US publishers/authors with the US Copyright Office is a precondition for filing suit.
  
  So filing suit could be a problem for most publishers on this site, and so far I'd say TMMason has a point.
  
  In practice, however, that is not the relevant point here. It is about getting the duplicated material taken down, and here others have amply explained that no registration of copyright is required and there are procedures in place to see to that.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you.
  
  And I am not trying to be smug. I now the blogger and the site have thier policies, but legally is another matter.
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  KCC Big Countryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  I agree that you were the first to post here. You stated incorrect information and I simply pointed out that you might want to check on it.
  
  I'm done with this subject. You can believe what you want to believe. The original poster got the information she needed and she's taken the steps to get the copied material removed.
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  DevLinposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What's with you today? Earlier posts on this trhread already said, hubpages has their own copyright. Get a clue.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  TMMasonposted 54 minutes agoin reply to this
  On what?
  
  Copyrights.
  
  it doesn't just appear with the words bro.
  
  You have to file for it. US copyright office. Now through agreement the Hub pages site might own your work and hold some copyright. But in general, you don't get it copy righted automatically.
  
  You see what it says about hubpages copyright...
  
  read my posts before you spout.
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Didn't you know that TM is never wrong? He is the authority on absolutely everything.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Another one who doesn't read the copyright laws.
  
  Your own postings from the office prove my point. if you want legal recourse you must have a copyright.
  
  Look here is the link to US copyright office. And note what it says;
  
  Do I have to register with your office to be protected?
  
  No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section
  
  Pay especially close attention to this part...
  
  You will have to register, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section
  
  So. You may be okay to get it off a site. But you have no standing in a court of law.
  
  But.
  
  You all know best.
  
  http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-g … tml#mywork
  
  And lets not skip this part.
  
  Why should I register my work if copyright protection is automatic?
  
  Registration is recommended for a number of reasons. Many choose to register their works because they wish to have the facts of their copyright on the public record and have a certificate of registration. Registered works may be eligible for statutory damages and attorney's fees in successful litigation. Finally, if registration occurs within 5 years of publication, it is considered prima facie evidence in a court of law.
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  MyWebsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "Yeah thats what I used to believe. And that is exactly where I read it when I used to believe it." (in reference to copyright.gov links)
  
  Yes he is right and the official U.S. copyright.gov web site I quote is wrong according to him.
  
  Funny how after I posted links to the copyright.gov site now he is quoting it like he believes what he earlier said was wrong. What a head case.
  
  Or is it right now that he is also quoting it? Who knows or much less cares?
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IzzyMposted 14 years ago
Oh? I just thought it was maybe a full moon!
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IzzyMposted 14 years ago
And YOU only mentioned legal recourse about three posts back! Read back to the start of the thread and see what you wrote. You were wrong! Just admit it man! If you meant to say 'legal recourse' you missed the words out.
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IzzyMposted 14 years ago
Hey TM your score went up from 18 to 20 today. Do you think that's because of your forum participation?
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thats exactly what it is cause of it Izzy.
  
  I have not been on here in months so my score plummeted. I was always at 86 or 89, when I came back again it was one. Cosette and marine and some others know I have been here before.
  
  So yes Izzy.
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  more likely the charming personality.
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  MyWebsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  If that was the case then HP staff would need to add negative numbers to the ranking scale.
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sunforgedposted 14 years ago
Ive just been reading some Oscar Wilde "Dont suffer fools gladly"
it may be off topic but figured I would share anyway
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TMMasonposted 14 years ago
Again.

If they, the thief or the site, refuses to take it down.

You have no recourse unless copyrighted.

You don't like it.

Too bad.

Take it up with the court.

Coversation is over.
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  MyWebsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes you do have recourse. Then you go to the web hosting company as they all have rules against copyright infringement. IF they refuse to help then most likely they are only a reseller and you go to the web hosting company they use.
  
  While some people may think TOU rules don't matter and they can do what they want the vast majority of companies enforce these rules, lest they get sued in court.
  
  I'm sorry but you don't dictate when any conversation is over with here. Not your web site nor your forums.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Conversation is over myweb...
  
  You don't have any legal recourse if the thief claims it as his.
  
  That is just a fact.
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  MyWebsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Once again your wrong. But this happens so often you should be used to it by now.
  
  There are multiple ways I can prove I published my content first and I am the original owner. The thief will have nothing because they stole it.
  
  You keep saying legal recourse. But in fact there are effective ways to fight back which don't involve a court room. You can keep trying to change the subject all day....
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TMMasonposted 14 years ago
The conversation is over dude.

I have already been through the stolen intellectual property thing. You are not telling me anything. Nor are you safe in your lil delusion.

I hope you enjoy it when it occurs.
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IzzyMposted 14 years ago
Re-arrange these words into a well-known sentence

Brick wall....banging...off...head...your...like...it's..a.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I just don't understand how you all get obsessed over the fact that I won't agree with you.
  
  I think it is halarious, Izzy.
  
  I slept like a baby last nite.... not a care in the world about who copyrights and who doesn't.
  
  I do.
  
  hahahah
  
  Anyway how has you morning been so far Iz? I hope all is well in your life. It is nice to discuss things regardless of how any of us see them.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are a class A idiot, yet you seem to want to pick a fight with others and yet not with me. Now, repeat 100 times...
  
  ALL HUBS ARE COPYRIGHTED
  ALL HUBS ARE COPYRIGHTED
  ALL HUBS ARE COPYRIGHTED...
  
  Perhaps then you can learn....
  
  THE INTERNET ARCHIVE CAN PROVE PUBLISHING TIMES
  THE INTERNET ARCHINE CAN PROVE PUBLISHING TIMES
  THE INTERNET ARCHIVE CAN PROVE PUBLISHING TIMES
  
  And then maybe....
  
  HOSTING COMPANIES REMOVE COPIED CONTENT
  HOSTING COMPANIES REMOVE COPIED CONTENT
  HOSTING COMPANIES REMOVE COPIED CONTENT
  
  And then perhaps...
  
  ADSENSE BANS CHEATS
  ADSENSE BANS CHEATS
  ADSENSE BANS CHEATS.....
  
  Perhaps rather than pointing you in the direction of my comprehensive article, I should have started with the elementary stuff, don't worry you will catch up with the rest of us one day.
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