Is the Pagerank of a backlink used from the domain or the subdomain?

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   easyguyevoposted 14 years ago

   For example if I got a backlink from a webpage called lets say  www .computers. com/cpuforum
   If the pagerank of the domain (www .computers. com) was lets say 5 but the page rank of the sub-domain (www .computers. com/cpuforum) is 0. Will search engines recognize my backlink as a pagerank 5 or 0? I already know that they are some complicated calculations for weighing  backlinks in terms of boasting my serp (like the total amount of outgoing links on the page etc). I just want to know which one of the pageranks my backlink really has.

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      Shawn Scarboroughposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The search engines to not publish any info on how page rank works.  Most people believe that a backlink gets its page rank from the domain itself and not a particular page on that domain or subdomain.

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         Peter Hogganposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Nonsense.

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   Google have published this info, and talk about it rregularly. Page rnak is no secret, only the actual Google SERPS formula is kept under wraps.
   
   Page Rank is on a page by page basis, so if you get a link the PR is from that page, not the domain.

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   Peter Hogganposted 14 years ago

   Yep Oli is spot on, remember also that toolbar PageRank is anything but accurate. Toolbar PageRank is only updated a few times a year, real PageRank is dynamic and will be amended as links to your pages are discovered or dropped. Unfortunately toolbar PR won’t show this.

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      easyguyevoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I see, thanks to all of you.
      So Peter do you know what is the average ratio between the dropped pages and discovered ones as in do more get dropped than discovered? I asked this because of course if links are dropped the pagerank will also and vice versa if links are gained. Then my backlink can become more valuable or almost worthless depending on the pagerank! So what I am really asking is what is the ratio between a page rank dropping or actually getting higher on average? Which happens more?

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         Peter Hogganposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         PageRank isn’t a great driver of rankings anymore it has been seriously devalued over recent years, what weight Google gives PR only Google knows for sure. I wouldn’t worry about PR just make sure the links are from relevant pages and use appropriate keywords in the link text. Don’t keep using the same link text either, vary it slightly.
         
         For a link to be dropped the link would have to be removed from the linking page, the page dropped from the index or the page penalized in some way so that PR is no longer  passed. This 'link rot' is unavoidable to some extent especially if you use forum signatures or blog comments as a way to build links. Those types of links can easily be switched to nofollow. Nofollow links will still send visitors but have no value as far as Google SEO or PageRank is concerned.
         
         You can check you backlinks here:
         
         https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/

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            easyguyevoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            How do you find out if a link is do follow or no follow?

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   Bill Manningposted 14 years ago

   This why so many who think they have a high PR link actually don't. I've never seen a link page, forum post link, blog post link and so on have much more than a 0 to 1 PR.
   
   Only the home page usually has a high PR. So I try to get A-B-C links with sites on their front page. Hard to get however.
   
   All the others I do get the links but I don't give a darn what the PR is because I know it's always going to be around,,,,, zero.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Then you are not looking in the right places. I have a page on my personal blog that is PR3, while the blog itself is only a PR2. making money blogging - and I dofollow all links in the comments section, plus I have a nifty little program that finds and links to your last blog post if you add the url of your blog.
      
      So - be sure and leave me a comment.

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         thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         That is the exception not the rule though, especially when posting on forums!

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   Peter Hogganposted 14 years ago

   You need to look at the code of the page that is linking to you.
   
   In Firefox click on view then select page source. Once you have switched to code view press control F and type the anchor text of the link into the find box. That should find your link and what you are looking for is something like
   
   <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.example.com/">Anchor Text</a>
   
   If you see rel="nofollow" anywhere in the opening <a> tag it's a nofollow link.

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      easyguyevoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks alot Peter. Now I won't have to wait and see if I actually do get a backlink when I leave my link on a page using yahoo's tool. Thanks again

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         sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I use NoDoFollow plug in for Firefox - as it can be easily clicke don and off.
         
         SEO Quake and SEO for Firefox also integrate this feature (but it takes a few more clicks to toggle)
         
         In addition to  dofollow, the page would also have to be indexed, sounds to me like your trying to develop profile links. When you create those new profiles there is no guarantee that they will ever be indexed, especially if you are never active at the site you created the profile on.

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            easyguyevoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Well actually I was more looking for forum links. Thanks for the firefox tools thought they will indeed come in handy. By the way are their any for chrome since my firefox has issues?

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   sunforgedposted 14 years ago

   Your firefox doesnt have issues - you just have installed some incompatible plugins.
   
   Just selectively disable your plugins and toolbars until firefox is working in all its glory.
   
   But, chrome probably has related plugins - Ive never had any use for it.
   
   Firefox #1 for customization and power
   
   Opera #2 Blazing fast browsing
   
   Sorry, - i have no use or knowledge of other browsers anymore
   
   What type of issue does your Firefox have? Firefox is by far the strongest browser for web development and seo tools - i would fix the issues

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      easyguyevoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yea. At first when i installed it, it worked fine for a few months then it slowly started to get slow and also stick alot. Then I turned to chrome. Thats only on this computer though on the others firefox works fine. Thought chrome to me is much faster when it is opening and creating new tabs and it also does not stick, at least not for me. This computer is pretty old though.

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         sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Then the issue is probably outdated plugins - if you have no connection to your current settings, just uninstall, reinstall and start from scratch

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            easyguyevoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Cool. But i will lose all my settings. O well, I will reinstall! Thanks again

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               easyguyevoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I was putting it off for a long time but i sense the TIME IS NOW TO REINSTALL !

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   Go Writerposted 14 years ago

   Hard to say.
   
   I'm using SEOmoz's keyword difficulty tool, and it tells you that if you want to rank well for a certain keyword, that has, say, a moderate competitiveness rating, you need to either use a high-ranking domain that targets the term well or a low-ranking page that really had optimized individual pages for the keyword.
   
   So I can't tell if it's both or one or the other. Both conditions seem to meet search engine compliance.
   
   So in terms of Page Rank, it probably is simply just a guideline to tell you, yep, this is authoritative enough or nope, not too good to use for backlinks.

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   I really need to spell check when I post, was most probably drunk when I said that, had a roughhhh weekend of parties round at my apartment!
   
   If you want backlinks form forums you really have to concentrate on the quality of the forum rather than the page rank in my opinion.
   
   Google uses a lot of ranking factors which build an overall 'trust' of a site, this reflects well on your own sites!

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