Americans, Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid

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   Amie Warrenposted 13 years ago

   I'm serious. If you didn't grow up in the south, you have no idea how dangerous the Tea Party is. If they keep gaining strength and take over this country, like the Religious Right almost did during the Reagan years, we are in real trouble. Be warned. They will try to revert us back to "the values this country was founded on" by taking away everything we've gained after that. Hell, if they had their way, they'd reinstitute slavery, but it would be for everyone that wasn't white, not just blacks.
   
   I'm happy some of the old timers in the Congress are gone, but we now have a bunch of freshman reps with no power or influence, and the Dems will become "The Party of NO!" in order to survive.
   
   Unfortunately, Obama is not Clinton. I don't think he can work with these people like Clinton did with his Republican congress. He's way too arrogant, and not politically savvy or manipulative enough.
   
   John Boehner won't be the only one crying if the Tea Party gets its way, believe me.

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      lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      OMG! Do you hear yourself?
      
      
      
      Like that would be such a bad thing? LOL
      
      Then don't stop there throw in the fear mongering, and play the racist card!
      
      What have we "gained" under the democrats? Crushing debt, reliance on government handouts, crippling unemployment? You can't see that the democrats are enslaving you? Enslaving us all by forcing us into reliance on government and taking our wealth to pay for it!
      
      The Tea Party is here to save you not enslave you and believe me, when we're successful, you'll be thanking us!

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         Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         What have we "gained" under the democrats? Crushing debt, reliance on government handouts, crippling unemployment? You can't see that the democrats are enslaving you? Enslaving us all by forcing us into reliance on government and taking our wealth to pay for it!
         
         Be fair. This mess was left to Obama by the Bush administration--two wars and tax cuts for the rich and famous.

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Aren't you enjoying your share of the trickle down?

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            lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            OMG!!! When will you foolish liberals step up and take responsibility for your actions and the results (or lack thereof) of what you do?
            
            Oh that's right, liberals don't believe in personal responsibility!

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               Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               So do you take responsibility for the economy and wars under Dubya?  Wars usually help our economy.  What happened under Bush?  Where did the money go and who made the most profit from Dubya's wars?  Any idea?  Let's hear your thoughts.

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                  lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Wars don't help the economy, obviously you don't have a clue. Dismissed! heehee

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                     Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Yes, I do have a clue about your historical knowledge!  Perhaps you will tell us what caused the end of the Great Depression.  The sudden increase of jobs and industrial activity in which women began working outside of the home was caused by what?

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                        lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Maybe you should read up on it again... the economy was hardly all that great. FDR had double digit unemployment throughout all of his 4 terms! This in spite of having so many young men fighting overseas. In addition there were all sorts of shortages... remember the 43 penney wasmade out of steel because of the shortage of copper.
                        
                        I suppose though you and democrats would characterise such an economy as "great" though I can't imagine why, but it explains why you think the current situation is good *sighs*

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                           Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Where did I say "the economy is good"?  And you didn't answer the question of "what ended the Great Depression?"  So you don't think more jobs and industry caused by the war ended the GD?  So let's hear your spin on it!

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                              Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Bumping this up so perhaps LL will answer!

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                              Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              
                              
                              
                              I would like to attempt an answer.  Jobs and industry did help but even more was FDR's Gold Confiscation.
                              
                              
                              Once the Gold was effectively confiscated from the People and was illegal to own.  The Government raised the Value of Gold for International Transactions from the price paid to the people of $20.67 per troy ounce to $35 per troy ounce.
                              
                              What this did was lower the value of the Dollar Instantly.  While the International Value of Gold rose by +69%, it devalued the dollar by the same amount.  The people found their dollars to be worth -69& less then when they accepted it.  This made it even harder for the people to survive in what was already a Depression.
                              
                              This created an enormous increase in Government revenue to the detriment of the People!

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                              lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              "In 1945 and 1946 Congress repealed the excess-profits tax, cut the corporate tax to a maximum 38 percent, and cut the top income tax rate to 86 percent. In 1948 Congress sliced the top marginal rate further, to 82 percent."
                              
                              "With freer markets, balanced budgets, and lower taxes, Wood was right. Unemployment was only 3.9 percent in 1946, and it remained at roughly that level during most of the next decade. The Great Depression was over."
                              
                              http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns … epression/
                              
                              It's amazing to me what you liberals actually believe to be fact! Cutting taxes, providing business with certainty in policy and creating an environment conducive to savings and investment served to create an economic boom, and such policies always work! Government spending only prolongs the pain and high taxes and loss of confidence in the future kill jobs and economic activity. Yet the stupid democrats continue to pursue that policy! Why? Because the ends justifies the means, and the end is a socialist society ruled by democratic political elites like Obama and his radical cronies funded by Soros and carried out by the fools that have grown reliant on government handouts and entitlements!

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         Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         "They will try to revert us back to "the values this country was founded on"
         
         What does that mean in specific terms?

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            The supremacy of the over 55 white male for one...

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You've just broken the record for most lies in one post. Congratulations.

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         Amie Warrenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         "What have we "gained" under the democrats? Crushing debt,  reliance on government handouts, crippling unemployment? You can't see that the democrats are enslaving you? Enslaving us all by forcing us into reliance on government and taking our wealth to pay for it!
         
         The Tea Party is here to save you not enslave you and believe me, when we're successful, you'll be thanking us!"
         
         You are batshit crazy if you think the Tea Party has any intention of saving us. It's all about money! The lunatic fringe will soon be discarded by the GOP and the real agenda will become clear, which is to return to the greed and corruption that got us into this mess.
         
         It truly amazes me how stupid you people are. "The dumbing down of America" in action.

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            lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Oh, I couldn't agree with you more!!

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            lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Gee I could easily make the same case about you socialist democrats!

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      Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I am indeed very very afraid when people make groundless statements like you just did----that the Tea Party would reinstitute slavery.
      
      Balderdash!
      Mouse poo!
      
      
      Good grief, liberals are such whiners and accusers!
      They still have the Senate, but they're acting like sore losers already.

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hogwash!
         
         Load of carp!
         
         
         
         

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            Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Pig swill!
            
            Chicken droppings!
            
               

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               Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Fox News...
               
               Sorry, that was cold.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  lol
                  
                  Actually, most of the commentators on Fox aren't right-wing enough on several issues...
                  
                  And they're waaay TOO "fair and balanced" lotsa times when they give ear to leftists.
                  But hey they treat everyone with respect, unlike CNN and Rachel Maddow and the non-ladies of The View, etc., so I guess I can't fault them for actually being nice to people in general.

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                     Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     It's the only network where I've heard the term "homodamnation".
                     I figured that alone would make you swoon.

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                  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Reported!  Too far Ron!

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                     Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I said I was sorry!

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      Shadesbreathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      WOW.  Really?
      
      How can you expect anyone to take anything you say seriously when you say crap like this?
      
      What a foolish, divisive, ridiculous and unsubstantiated lie.  This is the crap that is ruining the nation.  Not the Democrats or the Republicans.  It's grotesque perversions of what "debate" and "conversations" are supposed to be that prevent the nation from righting itself.
      
      SO just keep slinging this garbage and the idiots on the other side will keep calling Obama a communist and comparing him to Hitler and the whole country will just keep circling the drain.

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      Ray Thoughtsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Lady, you are funny.  I am a hispanic who is a tea partier and a southerner, and I have never had the feeling I would be enslaved.  You can't color every conservative with the same paint brush.  You are not being fair.  Are there racist conservatives?  Sure, but that would be true of both sides. 
      
      You said and I quote, "They will try to revert us back to "the values this country was founded on."  So,  in other words, you are not for the Constitution.  Sorry, but that is not an option in the United States.  To be elected to office, you have to swear to uphold the Constitution.   If you want a socialist constitution, go to another country.

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         Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Is there a word in Spanish for people like you comparable to "Uncle Tom" as in the case of Supreme Court justice Thomas or GOP chairman Steele?

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   Bill Manningposted 13 years ago

   A two party system is set up to fail. Whatever one is in power the other one fights it. Whatever changes one makes, the other changes back once they are in power.
   
   It's a stupid, win-less system that just goes in circles. Having said that, I don't know of any other system in place that is much better.
   
   Maybe it's humans that are the problem,,,,

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      lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "Maybe it's humans that are the problem,,,,"
      
      Absolutely!

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   Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago

   As usual, Dubya did it all.
   I now resurrect my old idea that Dubya probably sank the Titanic too.  Such power he has!

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      Amie Warrenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If you deny that all this happened under the Bush administration, you are denying the truth. Bank deregulation, letting Wall Street run wild, two wars...one needless and one that has gone on too long that is unwinnable, and who got rich? Tell me, was it you? Did you get rich under their policies?  I think not. Only the rich got richer during Dubya's reign of terror and fear.
      
      While Obama is not my favorite president by far, he was set up to fail by a system who wanted to show us that a black man could not be a successful President, and get that notion over and done with.
      
      You obviously have drunk the Kool Aid and are totally blind to the real agenda here. I can tell you, it's much scarier than you think. If you had heard what I heard from the Radical Right during the 2008 election, you would know I am right. I'm talking really powerful people using the "N" word and talking about "putting these people in their place once and for all" by electing Obama and setting him up to fail.
      
      It's not conspiracy theories, it's the truth. I'm not "playing" the race card, the race card has already been played. Put the "N" into the White House and watch him fail...then no one will ever elect another black President.
      
      It's all so covert and evil, you would not believe it unless you saw it.

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         Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Really?  And I suppose they made the Obama puppet say and do everything he's said and done?
         Please give verifiable facts and I might believe it.
         From what vantage point "within" did you see it personally?
         Who are those "really powerful people"?

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            Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Bumping this up so hopefully Amie will answer.

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               Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

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            lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Just of the top of my head, I can think of 3;
            
            Who was that dweeb who said Makaka? You know, "Get that Makaka away from me."
            
            Republican NATIONAL COMMITTEE puts a picture of Grijalva of Arizona with a huge, exagerrated mustache. "hey gringo, que pasa?"
            
            And let's not forgte this:
            
            "In December 2008, Paladino forwarded a message entitled “Obama Inauguration Rehearsal” including a video clip showing African tribesmen dancing in a village. This video is very popular in the white supremacist community and has been posted at the Neo-Nazi Stormfront website."
            
            Well well WELLLLLL. Neo-Nazi eh Brenda? Not very nice people...but they ARE Christian.

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         lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You are absolutely right Amie. Fascism is here. Steel-cold fascism. Religious, monetary, personal life and any other wise.
         And they have the money behind them.
         No need to disclose where it comes from, no need to set any limits, no need to hide their agenda any more.
         
         Suppression of human rights. Reign of Corporate control.
         
         "A Handmaid's Tale" come to life.
         
         Truly, they are the Brood of Vipers from of old.

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         lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Bank deregulation was under Clinton and your boyz Barney Frank and Chriss Dodd!

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            lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            "A financial deregulation bill was passed in the early 1980s under the Reagan administration, lifting many restrictions on the activities of savings and loan associations, which had previously been limited primarily to the home-loan market. The result was an orgy of speculation, profiteering and outright plundering of assets, culminating in collapse and the biggest financial bailout in US history, costing the federal government more than $500 billion."
            
            The beginning of the end.
            
            And don't forget, Graham- Leach -Bliley, 3 staunch Republicans, wrote that bill that Clinton signed! It was part of a "deal" they made to "work together" in Congress. Work with dogs, you get fleas.

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               lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I'm glad you metioned Graham- Leach -Bliley, because that was credited as the major cause of the current economic crisis, which was signed into law by Clinton, a democrat!
               
               It's amazing to me how you want to deflect the blame onto republicians for that!

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   Reality Bytesposted 13 years ago

   

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   lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

   "It's amazing to me how you want to deflect the blame onto republicians for that!"....They WROTE the bill!!!
   
   And, it's amazing to me how you ignore what happened under Reagan!
   
   And, my dear, I am only taking a page out of the Republican hand-book.
   What have you all been saying lo these past 2 years?
   
   "The economy tanked when the Democrats took over the House. All the problem started with the Democrat Congress in 2006....."
   
   Stands to reason, you would fault a Republican Congress just as well, doesn't it?

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