Are PROSTITUTES really victims?

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   jcvposted 14 years ago

   I would like your opinion are they? Because I feel like they only play that rlewhen the cops get there hands on them.

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      Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Only if they get stiffed!

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         jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I agree then "pimps" get all the Prison time

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            yeah yeahposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            not all hookers are victims. most choose to live that lifestyle and all the glamour that cames along with it, such as: drug addiction, child neglection, verbal/physical abuse. but there is always to sides to every fridging story. when the hooker is under age....YEAH then they are victims of the worst kind
            shot out to my peeps on deathrow (j/K)

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      i believe that the only true victims in this world are those who are helpless and incapable of helping themselves, like children, animals or sick, disabled people in nursing homes or mentally ill street people, etc.

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         jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I agree those who are help less

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      Lady_Eposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Some are, some aren't.
      
      We have cases in London where girls from outside the UK are enticed into a better life. The minute they get here - their passports are seized and they are forced into prostitution with No choice whatsoever.
      
      A bit like that film "Taken". If you've watched it.

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         jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         yes i have seen it it was a great movie but i talking about Here in the U.S pimps fall victim at times to these PROSTITUTES

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            hinckles komaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You know what i don't respect that job its to easy. people do crazy things for money then find an excuse to back it up so do they. Its a choice they make we all make choices and the ones who don't make a choice and are forced ok that's a victim. love all.

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               Rexx Thnderposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               We can't let our personal beliefs control our political opinions with regards to other peoples decisions.  The best we can do is to inform someone that prostitution is a bad choice, and inform them them that if it's a choice they want to make, here are all the dangers, and here's how you can make the best of it.  People have a strong urge to tell everyone else how to live their lives, but this is the beginning of the path that leads to some of the most horrific political systems in history.

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      01sweetloveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I wonder what it would be like if it were taxed like alcohol and cigarettes?

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         It is where I live apparently! Controlled and taxed.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Why would anyone think prostitutes are victims?

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   tony0724posted 14 years ago

   Just the ones caught up In human trafficiking . And sad to say there are many of those . However some of them know the risk they run . And sad to say they,re self esteem Is so low they do not think they deserve better.

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      jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Low self esteem???  Maybe with some but most I should say are pretty confident and love what they do for they money cars and clothes

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         tony0724posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         High end prostitutes maybe , but the majority of them are standing on a street corner In some major metropolis .

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            jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Is it because they choose to or made

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   hinckles komaposted 14 years ago

   Which ones working or off work? And depends were in the world. Money for sex how do you as a woman feel about that? love all. They are letting themselves be the victims by putting themselves in that situation. Why should i care about their job do they care about mine?

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      jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Here in the U.S> pimps get all the bad rap WHO REALLY choose up the HOE

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   cosetteposted 14 years ago

   i agree.
   
   if they have the wherewithall to get up every day, clean and dress themselves, and make the conscious choice to go out there every day, they are not victims. they are masters of their own fate, unlike an abused child or helpless animal, who have no voice.

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      jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      more people should think like you

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   Victems of they're own poor judgement or of people without a soul. I feel that women that aren't real well educated become victems of men and it goes south from there. This can take the form of drugs, sexual abuse or traficing. Men without morals will use women to a point that it's all they feel they have. Drugs also break down their will to resist and cause them to enter the cycle. Human trafficing is slavery pure and simple, these women do this because they are threatened or their family is.  It's a sad outcome for a human life.

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      jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      hOE DO YOU REALLY KNOW  i have a veiw in to the life of many of these women and many interviews they love waht they do and are happy

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         sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Ok. Then I'm wrong.

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            jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            

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               danica887posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               that's called being brainwashed, not happy.

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         Marc Salyerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         It's true that many people get involved in prostituion because they have a wild streak. None of them "love" it for long nor are they "happy". As they age (and they get old quick) they live in a state of depression.
         
         Many young men and women in prostitution may act very cavalier about their lifestyle out of a sense of self-defense when confronted. If they say they love the way they live loud enough and cheerfully enough they can convince some that they are happy with the life they live. However that is not to say that they are content in that life or that they willingly entered it. I often council in the local jail and I can tell you first hand that many men and women were abused as children by sadistic adult perverts (often family). Sometimes the abuse becomes prostitution when a father or attending adult sells or shares the child with friends...Drugs help to cover the pain and indignity and It's not a big leap from that life to street prostitution. These people often say they want help but when real help is offered they often retreat or take advantage of immediate assistance and then they're back to the streets.

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      jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Seperating slavery from a"career choice" it becomes harder ton determine the victim vs victimizer.What point does your past abuse provide you immunity from the consequences of your behavior now.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

   jcv - My husband worked in public health for several years when AIDS became an issue in the early 1980s. I once asked him what the average career expectancy of a street hooker was. He said 3 to six years before they became too sick to work. It's my understanding that things haven't changed that much. That can't be a happy lifestyle unless one is very suicidal.

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      jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I have interviews with many call girls from my understanding they love what they do and enjoy there living

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   Randy Godwinposted 14 years ago

   What about those just looking for a "sugar daddy?"  Are these women prostitutes too?

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      jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Its all the same just diff titles
      
      <jcv - do not post duplicate threads>

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         Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Nope, same title in my opinion!

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            jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            No i agree That there is no diff
            
            <jcv - do not post duplicate threads>

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      hinckles komaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      some get paid right away some get paid with karma.  Choices choices choices. The most degrading job for a woman.

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   Colebabieposted 14 years ago

   My friend's mom is one. She has been for about 10 years now. She has some drug issues. I have been with my friend when she has gone to see her for various reasons: hit by a car, diagnosed with cancer etc. They don't have a good relationship. I see her sometimes on the street. Its really hard. I feel like she is partially a victim, and partially responsible for the things that have happened to her. But it doesn't really matter, its still difficult.

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      tony0724posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      In this Instance not a victim , she Is a volunteer .

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   ralwusposted 14 years ago

   Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.

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    cindyvineposted 14 years ago

    a woman has the right to earn a living

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       Andrew0208posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       In this plight?

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          jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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             jcvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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    Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

    This Stuff does apply to me
    I Only Know how to do stuff Doggy Style

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    She is living on the street with cancer and a drug addiction. She's sick. I don't think anyone would volunteer for that life. I'm not saying she's completely a victim, but she is definitely not a volunteer.

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    danica887posted 14 years ago

    exactly. suicidal because women can't think beyond the paradigm men have created for them or see that their whole reality and existence is controlled by male choices.
    
    choice under oppression is a total illusion.

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    yeah yeahposted 14 years ago

    not all hookers are victims. most choose to live that lifestyle and all the glamour that cames along with it, such as: drug addiction, child neglection, verbal/physical abuse. but there is always to sides to every fridging story. when the hooker is under age....YEAH then they are victims of the worst kind
    shot out to my peeps on deathrow (j/K)
    
    -yeah yeah

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    LEWJposted 14 years ago

    My personal observation is that practically all of them make themselves LIABLE to become victims.
    Many of them actually DO become victims.
    Some of them make OTHER people victims.
    And some of them are not victims AT ALL.   They themselves are at fault.
    Among those who actually do become victims I include those forced into adverse circumstances  through no fault of their own. 
    This includes those forced or persuaded into prostitution from a young age.
    When all possibilities and circumstances are seriously considered, I think it becomes difficult to apply a legitimate blanket judgment that covers the entire scope of the issue.

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       UPStarposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       true Lew, true indeed. Well said

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    Madame Xposted 14 years ago

    Does anyone here really think that a woman would choose that "profession" if there was any alternative?
    
    I don't.

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    Poppa Bluesposted 14 years ago

    They certainly CAN be victims! It depends on whether or not the decision to be a prostitute was made freely of their own accord or if they were forced into it. A good number of women were tricked, forced, or sold into slavery. Isolated and alone, threatened with violence and nowhere to turn they are indeed victims.

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       Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I think you are right PoppaB. No one really knows how they got into the business.

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    fatfistposted 14 years ago

    Hookers run a business. Men who get STDs and not what they paid for, are the real victims. And there is no money back guarantee.

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       Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I could think of one guarantee that would work -abstain

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          fatfistposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, you could abstain and get into a relationship instead. Then you buy her diamonds, take her to expensive restaurants and stuff her face, marry her and house her, give her a secure financial future, then divorce her and give her half of your life, and end up supporting her and her new husband for the rest of their natural lives.
          No thanks, hookers are a lot cheaper, more fun, and MUCH better looking!

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             Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             And here you said something intelligent on another thread.  Oh, well...one of THOSE.  lol

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    UPStarposted 14 years ago

    Sounds like all are victims and all (minus those forced into prostitution)are guilty. People are much more than just what they "do." I suspect many things go into someones decision to sell themselves.

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    gusripperposted 14 years ago

    100 % Yes they are.And there is no excuse that they like the easy money bla bla bla etc.Who do something without to want it is always a victim.

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    Manly Manposted 14 years ago

    My! A lot of Hubbers apparently are experts on prostitution!

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       Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Apparently so! lol.  Actually, I kind of doubt it, .  I think they just read a lot of stuff on the internet & possibly watch too many movies.
       
       As Nelle said earlier on this thread, real prostitution is not a pretty thing.

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          fatfistposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Oh C'mon. The world does not revolve around America. The rest of the world knows that prostitution is just another career and a business. You need to get out some. America is too dumbed down by religious fascism to even know right from wrong. The religious not only want to control the world and its people, but also their thoughts.

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             Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Um, no.  That would not be my point here at all...regardless of how you evidently read that quip I wrote about hookers not having a soul. 
             
             And I disagree about me "needing to get out some."  That states you bare some obvious prejudices which are unwarranted and perhaps are incapable of even grasping where I do come from no matter how well I decide to spell it out.
             
             When your daughter or wife or mother (provided that you do think of them as human beings, not just objects that fill some role) winds up on the street and dies much before her time, as did my high school friend due to a certain life style profession, get back to me.  Or maybe when your Georgian bf relates how a 'hooker' was gang raped in front of him when he was 16 or 17 during the collapse of the Soviet Union and he couldn't do anything about it but it affected him, cerainly, get back to me.  Or when your friend from the Ivory Coast tells you that some of the women (actually, he intimated most of Africa) are so poor that they work as hookers, regardless of spreading AIDS and of being infected by AIDS just so that they can put food in their mouths, get back to me.
             
             I suppose you are thinking about a tiny country in Western Europe, which basically serves like our Nevada with its Chicken Ranch, etc.  Despite some knowledge of religious philosophy, you sound like you lack prerequisite knowledge on ethics and human nature (neither of which have to be tied to fundamental religious beliefs).  I.E., academic knowledge dumbed down.

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                fatfistposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Wow, yours was an amusing post! You are quite the piece of work Lita. Your emotions in that dissertation speak volumes about you and this issue. Were you or any member of your family perhaps working in this industry in the past? Were you hurt or beaten in any way?  Why are you so hurt?

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    Jeramiposted 14 years ago

    We are all victims of our choices.
        We are our own victims
      Even the opportunists of the situation are victims.
      just ask um

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       Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       The depth. Oh, the depth. Y'all.

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    Jewelsposted 14 years ago

    This is one of the most thought provoking hubs I'd read in a long time on Hubpages which relates to this forum topic.
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Myth-of-the-Volunteer-Whore by Pam Grundy
    
    It takes a global look at the victimhood of prostitutes.

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       Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I will read. Thanks, Jewels.

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    Artin2010posted 14 years ago

    I believe that they are victims of self and of choosing to be of character that creates negative esteem.Cultural coercion and peer pressure can lead a person into doing things they wouldn't normally do, right.
    If one plays in a mud puddle, one gets dirty and wet!
    In a sense we are all victims of sin, aren't we?
    Interesting topic!

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    Beth37posted 11 years ago

    I can't fathom that any girl who was told she is loved and she is valuable could spread her legs for every disgusting perv that lays money on her bed. Any woman who allows herself to be used like this was never taught her value. Most men think more highly of their dog then they think of a prostitute, yet they will commit the most intimate of acts with her,  making it ugly.
    
    In this sense, I think a prostitute is a victim b/c she doesn't know her worth. We all need to be loved. Would these men want their mothers, sisters or wives to be caught up in this kind of life? It breaks my heart for everyone involved.

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