Atheism is a psychological construct of doubt ; not a reality

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   paarsurreyposted 10 years ago

   Atheism is a psychological construct of those who doubt nature; not a reality

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      wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Atheism: A lack of belief in a god that cannot be shown to exist.
      
      Sounds more like reality than anything else to me!  One might call it a lack of imagination or even a strong desire for truth, but it doesn't make it unreal.

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         paarsurreyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Reality exists irrespective of whether man exists or not.

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            wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Very good!  And it exists, as is, no matter what man may or may not believe.  All the imaginings of man added together will not produce even one small god out there somewhere in the real world.  Only within the minds of those wishing it to the point of accepting imagination as truth.

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      AshtonFireflyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      How is atheism a psychological construct of those who doubt nature? What nature? Please elaborate.

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      Don Wposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Or
      
      Theism is a psychological construct of those who fear the unknown; not a reality.
      
      Statements like these are easy to make.

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   paarsurreyposted 10 years ago

   All doubts of the Atheists Agnostics cannot cause a thing to exist or to non-exist.

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      wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      True.  And neither can the desires, wants or imaginings of the theists.
      
      Things either exist or do not, irregardless of what man thinks.  Your point?

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      psycheskinnerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Likewise, all the beliefs of all the children in the world can't make Santa actually exist.
      
      Seriously, everything you say work in reverse, and probably more effectively in reverse than in the way you are stating it.

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         wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Hey, now!  I just helped my grand daughter write a letter to Santa (on facebook, so all can see it ).  I certainly hope there is a Santa because I sure can't provide her pet unicorn myself!

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            bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Actually, Wilderness, I think you are exactly where you need to be with that request.  I know Julie, Rory and Ed have all mentioned having dragons.   If memory serves, there has also been talk of unicorns, (with leprechaun jockeys no less).  Someone here should at least be able to give you a lead on getting one.

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               wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Well, if Santa isn't going to provide, I sure hope so.  And, now that you mention it, the grandson requested a dragon, so I really do need help.

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                  MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I actually purchased both a unicorn (pink) and a dragon for Christmas this year. Honestly. They are fluffy (the adjective, not the name) and talk. They go into little plush castles that also talk.

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                     JMcFarlandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     that's ridiculous.  Castles don't talk.  Don't be silly.  Surely you jest.

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                        MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        These castles talk... well they snore actually. It's all very plush and soft and sleepiness. Any toy designed to facilitate sleep, I'm all for. Really, shut up and take my money, kinda all for.
                        

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                           JMcFarlandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           *blinks*

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                              MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              I know, right? The coolness is blinding. The dragon actually goes to sleep in the castle. That one's for the Tater.
                              
                              This one's for the Bug.
                              
                              
                              
                              
                              OK. Off-topic TMI finished. But if wilderness did have grandkids ask for a unicorn and a dragon... there ya go.

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                                 wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 OMG, this pink unicorn would be absolutely perfect for that little girl.  Where is it and what is it called?  And yes, we really did write the letter.
                                 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid … nt_count=1

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                                    MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    It is a "Happy Nappers Unicorn" It is on sale at amazon for ten bucks.
                                    
                                    I gave Bug's a lookover when we got it. It actually seems fairly well-made.
                                    
                                    Edit: Wow, she is ridiculously cute!

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                                       wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                       Purchased.  Thanks, Melissa - I found an Amazon link on some hub about Alphabet Preschool Plans that took me where I needed to be...
                                       
                                       Didn't realize the castle was with it for the same cost - an added bonus.  She will love this!

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                                          MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                          Lol, I'm sure the author is grateful.
                                          
                                          It really is quite cute, I'm sure she will love it. I'm gonna go ahead an remove the link now. Merry..er..happy...err..Season's Greetings

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                                             bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                             Santa was involved, so I think your safe.  Merry Christmas! 

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                                             wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                             Nope - not Seasons Greetings.  A plain old fashioned
                                             
                                             MERRY CHRISTMAS! to you and yours.

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                                       wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                       If you refer to the soon-to-be-recipient of a unicorn, yes she is about as cute as they come.  And somehow knows just how to buffalo her Grandpa into whatever she wants!

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                                 MysticMoonlightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 I can testify to total awesomeness here! My daughter received this cuddly pink Happy Napper last year for Christmas and it was a hit! They are adorable, hold up well, and make wonderful travel companions

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               Deepes Mindposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Ummm.. Rory has said no such thing. Rad Man has.

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                  bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, if it isn't your dragon, it is Julie's dragon, Fluffy, which you harbor in your garage sometimes...right?

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                     JMcFarlandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Speaking of which, has anyone seen...er....noticed fluffy?  She's been missing for awhile, and it's getting colder out and I'm going to Maine in January.  I could use the heat.

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                        bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        This is concerning.  If an invisible dragon in your garage passes on...I can't even go there.  I hope Fluffy is well.  Deepes?

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                        Deepes Mindposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        I haven't noticed anything. Fluffy will turn up I hope.

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                     Deepes Mindposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Fluffy makes her rounds I'm told. I don't have a garage so I can't harbor her.

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                        JMcFarlandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        not even an invisible garage?  Where on earth is she able to play with your son?

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                        bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        So Fluffy does not stay with you?  Did she just come by that one time to give your son a ride?

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                           Deepes Mindposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           I think so. All I saw was my son sitting on thin air and flying in a weird pattern so I had to assume that my son is a superhero or I'm extremely drunk (but I don't drink). That was until I smelled the sulphur. Then I put two and two together

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                              bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              I now have the full visual.  Invisible dragons make it difficult to tell from whence the sulfuric aroma emanates...let's call it bad breath.

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                                 Deepes Mindposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 Or bad gas...lol

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                                    bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    I was employing the ambiguity of invisibility to extend the benefit of the doubt.

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   MelissaBarrettposted 10 years ago

   ROFLMAO...
   
   OK then, since I'm heading off to dreamland I get to say something I've always wanted to say...
   
   Merry Christmas to all, and to all a Good Night.

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   paarsurreyposted 10 years ago

   Please not the topic which is "Atheism is a psychological construct of doubt ; not a reality".
   Thanks

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      wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Have you got something against pink unicorns?  Or the castle they live in?

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         paarsurreyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Do you believe in them?

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      HowardBThinameposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Ok, "atheism is a psychological construct of doubt ; not a reality". I'll agree with that.
      
      But, by the same token, "Theism is a psychological ideation ; not a reality".
      
      What is real cannot be threatened. What is false, therefore, does not exist, except in the minds of the deluded.

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         paarsurreyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Belief in One-True-God Allah Yahweh is very natural and is a reality; yet those who very unnaturally doubt it they are in no compulsion to believe it.

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            wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            As only a quite small percentage of people throughout the history of mankind have expressed a belief in Allah (and even fewer actually had such a belief), it doesn't seem very "natural", does it?

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               paarsurreyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Natural is that what exists irrespective of humans believing or not believing and their numbers.

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                  wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Ah.  Then both Allah and God are very unnatural as neither actually exists. 
                  
                  Why did you say the one was natural?
                  
                  And why would you say that "Belief in One-True-God Allah Yahweh is very natural" if "natural" is irrespective of belief?

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            EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Not quite, believing in gods is very natural as you say, but doubting is also very natural and so is having or not a compulsion to believe or not believe, they are all equally natural.
            
            Just as it is natural to want others to share and accept your beliefs.

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         paarsurreyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         You mean the minds of Atheists are free from being deluded?

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            JMcFarlandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            no.  Not all atheists are skeptics.  Some atheists believe ridiculous things with no good reason.  In other words, they have faith.

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               paarsurreyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               So the Theists and the Atheists both are faith based.

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                  JMcFarlandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  No. .. just atheists that believe something without a good reason and without evidence.  That's what faith is.  Not all atheists are identical,  just like not all theists are identical.  Skepticism and atheism are not the same.  I wish they were.

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                  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  They could be described that way based on descriptions and definitions that include the word faith. Theism is based entirely on a faith in gods and their existence while atheism is a complete lack of that faith.

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            EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            No, they are free from having faith in gods.

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            HowardBThinameposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Free from "religious" delusion, I should clarify that.

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               paarsurreyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               While keeping the Atheist delusion intact in them?!

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