What Should Happen to Harvey Weinstein?

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   crankaliciousposted 6 years ago

   There's never been much of a difference between Democrats and Republicans when it comes to mistreating women. Pretty much, if you're a man and you're in a position of power, you can feel entitled to do whatever you want and say whatever you want.
   
   What do you think should happen to Harvey Weinstein and how should Democrats react?
   
   Here you have a man who used his power to demean and harass women. Rose McGowan has accused him of raping her. At latest count, 29 women have come out and accused him of misconduct. He's on tape trying to get a model to go to his room.
   
   Is this just more "men's locker room" antics? What should we do with men who consistently demean women and treat them like disposable things?
   
   As far as I'm concerned, Harvey Weinstein can rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life.

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      wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      If he raped a woman then jail is the proper place.  But "misconduct", legal actions that are deplorable, does not warrant rotting in a jail cell for the rest of his life.

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   colorfuloneposted 6 years ago

   From what I read, Harvey fled the country. I don't know if he did or not. That's what Polanski did.

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   RTalloniposted 6 years ago

   Power corrupts and anyone walking into the presence of power should remember that fact. Like the rest of us, his conduct is judged by whether it is law abiding or not. If not, then he should be dealt with through the legal system and the punishment should match the crime.
   
   A problem as big as his crimes, though, is all these women, many now quite old, who have just now decided to take their story to those in the legal system who can address his crimes.  Their example spoke to others who wanted to be in the business. They wanted to be part of a business that allowed this behavior to continue more than they wanted to protect other women.
   
   In a real sense they committed crimes against other women by not demanding he answer to the legal system.  Clearly, his crimes were well-known, but what can the legal system do without proof?  Clearly, there was plenty of proof, but these women were unwilling to help put a stop to it early on. No matter what they say now, like him, they wanted what they wanted and decided to keep quiet.
   
   Then there's the public's participation. Knowing that these powerful people are dirtbags who use everyone including each other when they can, not just girls and women, for their own purposes the public continues to fuel their thirst for power and money with adulations and hard earned money.  It boggles the mind. 
   
   The public actually has more power in such an instance than the legal system because without public money buying into their entertainment philosophies he nor any like him would have the success they have that allows them to get by with criminal activity. His punishment should fit the crimes, but it's time for all to take stock of the big picture.

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   Oztinatoposted 6 years ago

   So far in nearly all such high profile cases the alleged victims accusations have failed in the courts.
   Look at the Cosby accusers. None succeeded for solid legal reasons.
   Likewise in the current cases re Weinstein there is very little hard evidence as yet. The only police case has the victim admitting to voluntarily returning to Weinstein's room after an alleged rape for a second "rape". She then continued to work for Weinstein and made no complaints until 7 years later.
   These are very weak cases.
   On the other hand Weinstein has a an excellent civil case for damages as he has lost money before any proven claims etc.

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   Live to Learnposted 6 years ago

   I'm not certain what Harvey Weinstein's actions have to do with politicians. Except that power corrupts and power allows those with it to prey upon those without it.
   
   But, unless we fundamentally change society I believe that the Harvey Weinstein's of the world will continue to flourish. As long as a woman possesses choice, if she (however unwillingly) chooses to participate in this system she must bear some responsibility for the outcome.
   
   I heard that a woman who was up for the part in 'The Brothers Grimm' didn't get the part. Damon and Ledger said they liked the idea of it but the director felt it wouldn't work. His reasons for not casting her in the role were shared as 'she doesn't look f***able'. Interesting. Because, if that were the standard we used for leading men in Hollywood, if we cast away the aura an actor creates while in their role we'd not cast most of them.
   
   Keira Knightly jokingly pointed out that they had enhanced here bustline significantly for posters of 'King Arthur'.  The list of things done in Hollywood to ensure that women are seen as sex objects goes on and on. We have a growing trend of strong female leads but the list of women who can stand upon their acting talent, alone, and not on their perceived attributes of desirability in the bedroom to very, very large swaths of the male population remains low.
   
   Why is this? Because men celebrate the beauty of a woman more so than they celebrate her ability to achieve and think. Women do this also. As long as women believe that their ability to attract a man through their looks is their highest attainable success we will continue to see women exploited.
   
   Women are little different from any other minority. The tools for control of their own lives and their success exist. If they choose not to use them and, instead, choose to willingly participate in this demeaning environment; they bear some responsibility for the outcome.

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      Oztinatoposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It works both ways because every leading man since movies began were handsome "ladies men".
      The roles of villains were once played by fat ugly bearded or pock marked Weinstein looking types. Either that or "creepy" foreigners.
      These days both villains and heroes are both often "ladies men". Likewise with females roles. Most actors now look like chiselled models and many look almost identical. Gone are true character actors.
      So it's a "meat market" filled with highly competitive people ready to risk all to get ahead of the pack.
      The current controversy will merely leave a "sexual power vacuum" for other up and coming actresses to exploit as the older actresses fall out of favour.

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         Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Agreed. However, we bear some responsibility also. They are, after all, simply doing what makes money. The way we spend the money in our pockets fuels the problem.

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