Best Summary on the Obama Administration...

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   PrettyPantherposted 5 years ago

   I am curious. Why did you post this? Obama  has been out of office for eighteen months.

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      JAKE Earthshineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      First of all, that's exactly what I was thinking PP
      
      Second of all, this thread is a breitbart style propaganda discussion based on blatant Falsehoods and everyone knows it
      
      I think jackclee is the person who also started the ridiculous breitbart, Alex Jones style nonsensical thread asking the false question if John McCain was a hero or traitor: A question which is absurd:

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         jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Is it so absurd? This man was a hero in the past and has been elected Senator for 6 times. He is one of 100 senators who writes and makes laws that affects 300 million citizens. His voting records is public record.

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      jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I came across it on some site where users posted comments on the article at hand. I think it was an article about John McCain’s death... I just thought it was a good summary of the Obama Administration given that many on the left worship him and thought he was a great President.
      You are correct, he is out of office now but his legacy and damage lives on...

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   ahorsebackposted 5 years ago

   When almost an entirely liberal  news media fails to define the reality and  polishes , lies and creates the  Obama Legacy with political fallacies , It is then up to the brilliance of the individual voters to decide and define for themselves  what is true or untrue about a president's leadership qualities  .   Jacklee has done that and yet the list is short , the fallacies many and for democratic voter promotion ,the "legacy" would and will be better off forgotten.
   
   Barack Obama meet Jimmy Carter .

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      jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      The media attacked John McCain when he was running for President on the GOP ticket in 2008 against Barack Obama. Then they loved him when he attacked Trump. Now, they glorify him in death...

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         La Veeztaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Jack, isn’t it funny, the liberals can’t take issue with anything you said so immediately they ask why you posted it and then attack you - so predictable. How about this media, full of praise for McCain now but the respect and honesty we're seeing from the 2018 media is a far cry from McCain’s treatment in 2008. McCain was labeled as a racist, a get-off-my-lawn grouch with a divisive temper, someone whose health should be scrutinized because of his age.
         
         It's hard to watch this
         
         https://youtu.be/xEYFFiEnUjQ
         
         without getting furious. Even more infuriating is how the worst offenders, Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar, now speak so kindly of him, when they were previously so dismissive... actually repulsed.
         
         https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/ … n-08%3famp
         
         Had McCain and Trump gotten along better I wonder what the fickle press would be saying now. McCain forbade Trump from attending the funeral yet Jake Tapper, not mentioning that, is making a big deal about Trump being on the golf course today. This may not be fake news but for sure the press’s adornment is fake. They can not be trusted.
         
         What is really odd was McCain carries a grudge against Trump to his grave after screwing his own constituents just to spitefully keep Trump from fulfilling s campaign promise on Obamacare and yet he welcomes the press who switched from supporting McCain to annihilating him on his run for President. They are whom he should hold a grudge against if anyone. That is if he wanted to take a grudge to the grave, a thing to do that’s not befitting any Christian.

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            jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Agree 100%

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               PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               "Jack, isn’t it funny, the liberals can’t take issue with anything you said so immediately they ask why you posted it and then attack you - so predictable."
               
               i can take issue but don't care to. Many of us have already repeatedly engaged Jack on these very points, so I see no need to do so again. I just wondered why he felt the need, again.
               
               Where did I or any liberal attack Jack on this thread? Please provide a link.

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                  La Veeztaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Yeah, right, and that’s why you said,
                  
                  “I am curious. Why did you post this? Obama  has been out of office for eighteen months.“
                  
                  Doesn’t sound like your second reason does it,
                  
                  “i can take issue but don't care to.... I just wondered why he felt the need, again”
                  
                  Try again, and I never said you attacked jack, I referred to “liberals” which includes your shadow Bozo Jake.

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                     PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I expanded upon my initial post by providing another reason for the question. Is that a crime or something?
                     
                     Jake didn't attack Jack, either. He said the thread is propaganda based on falsehoods, then pointed out that Jack had also started a thread about McCain questioning whether he was a patriot or a traitor.  Neither of those things is an attack.

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                        La Veeztaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        It is when they have absolutely nothing to do with this thread or what Jack posted. He ignored the topic and denigrated Jack’s character falsely with no evidence equating him with a breitbart style propaganda (jakes false opinion, no fact) and accused him of lying.
                        
                        “I think jackclee is the person who also started the ridiculous breitbart, Alex Jones style nonsensical thread asking the false question if John McCain was a hero or traitor: A question which is absurd:”
                        
                        His characterization there is nothing but false innuendo. I understand you are going to try to defend any of your ilks tactics because it is all you’ve got, but your attempt at defense of Bozo Jake’s personal attacks on Jack is a joke.

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                           PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Lol, Jake specifically targeted Jack's positions, and not Jack personally. if you consider it a personal attack, why don't you hit the "Report" button and see what happens? I have a feeling Jake will still be here tomorrow.
                           
                           There is a thread started especially for tender folks like you who are easily offended. Perhaps you should go there.

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      Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Mmmm no, he’s just used right wing propaganda as a retort. Just because you agree with it doesn’t make it any more valid or truthful.
      
      Also, “turned our military into a gay bath house”? Can you seriously look at that and think “hm, yes, what a fair and objective point”? Gimme a break.

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         ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Don't get me wrong Obama has his positives , yet he just didn't bring most of them into being as president  and in fact created some very dark forces in the many institutions of the government YET TO BE INVESTIGATED .   The DOJ ,the CIA , the FBI , the IRS scandals ..........

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         gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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            jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I agree his wording was insensitive but his point about our military was that under Obama, they were devastated to the point they we were not able to fight two wars at the same time, many senior officers were forced into resign or retirement, the focus was on gender neutral uniforms instead of training...the numerous accidents on the high seas shows a level of incompetency and the readiness of our military is in jeopardy. We took the eye off the ball and our military is our main line of defense...
            I believe in gender equality but sometimes, it has no place like on the battle field. The same goes with gender identity. That should be a private issue. The don’t ask don’t tell was a good policy.

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               jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Here is one story...
               https://www.military.com/daily-news/201 … overs.html

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                  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Another story...
                  https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics … index.html

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   ahorsebackposted 5 years ago

   Liberals  and McCain ? Even his funeral was infected with politics , AND highly infected with anti-Trumpists ,   Such is the Adopt-a- Hero complex of all the Trump obstructionists .........My point , So Trumps an a$$ ache but it's really kind of funny that NOW liberals show their collective  and veil thin veneer of civility once again .  I am once again reminded that at least in manners , I belong to a traditionalist ideology . 
   
   What is happening to the America we once knew ?

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      jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      “Liberalism is a mental disorder.” - Dr. Michael Savage.

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         crankaliciousposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         A few quotes from Dr. Michael Savage:
         
         To "save the United States," lawmakers should institute "outright ban on Muslim immigration" and on "the construction of mosques."
         
         
         "90 percent of the people on the Nobel Committee are into child pornography and molestation, according to the latest scientific studies."
         
         
         The U.S. Senate is "more vicious and more histrionic than ever, specifically because women have been injected into" it.
         
         
         Adherents of Islam would do well to "take your religion and shove it up your behind" because "I'm sick of you."

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         Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Diagnosing millions of people with a “mental disorder” because they disagree with you is not quote-worthy. Just makes you look like you don’t have the capacity to comprehend differences.

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            jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            You miss understood Dr. Savage’s comment. His point is that liberals espouse policies that ultimately, if implemented, would lead to the destruction of their society. That is what is meant by mental disorder. It is like commiting suicide.
            The prime example is the open door policy of liberals with regard to illegal immigration. If anyone who wishes to come here are allowed to do so, can you imagine what would happen to your neihborhood?

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               PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Liberals do not promote an open door policy for immigration.. This has been pointed out to you many, many times yet you continue to repeat this lie.

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                  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  By not supporting the wall, it is essentially open borders. That is why we have such a problem over the last 25 years. By refusing to deal with it, we made it worse...that is both parties. That is why Trump was elected.

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                     crankaliciousposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Do you mean the wall literally or figuratively? I ask because intelligent people understand that 25 billion or 50 billion for a wall is a waste of money because it won't work because it's logistically impossible to build and/or be effective. You've heard of a shovel, right? Honestly, just build a bunch of machine gun turrets with motion detectors.
                     
                     Do you also understand that business people, who tend to be conservative, are some of the main supporters of illegal immigration because illegals supply the labor they need to keep their costs down?
                     
                     And, we don't have anything approaching open borders. Why don't you fly to Mexico, burn your passport, and try to get back. Tell us how that goes.

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                        jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        I do know that. As I said both parties have failed us. I am not one of those. As for the wall, it does work. Israel and other countries all built walls to keep out people that do not belong whether terrorists or illegals. Do you know the cost of not building the wall is much greater? Like loosing our sovereignty.

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                           Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           That's why Trump is so great. He's not a politician, and so he's not really a Republican. Not in the traditional sense, he isn't.
                           
                           Can't wait to vote straight RED next month <3

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                     PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     That is faulty logic, Jack. Not supporting the wall is not the same as supporting open borders, and you know it. Stop mischaracterizing other people's positions. It is dishonest.

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                        jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Who is being dishonest? We had amnesty under Reagan back in 1980s. As part of that agreement, we were suppose to build a wall. Congress voted on it and then stop funding it. That is what happened over the last 25 years and the illegal population grew year after year...

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                           PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           So, how does that prove your lie that liberals support open borders?

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago

   You couldn't get people to believe any of that. Obama was half black, so the slowest witted citizens thought that criticizing him was WAYCIS.
   
   And the horrific US media constantly reported that Obama was the most wonderful thing ever. It is so very very shameful that people actually think our 'news media' is valid at all.

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      Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      That observation is not particularely bright either, Wes. Obama is more than his competent parts. Yes, he was a Black African American man, that was 100 percent. That half black stuff is just more conservative-racist irrelevancy. All I had to do was to hear him parrot an Al Green song in jest to know that was the genuine article.
      
      But, I don't expect  you and those like you to appreciate this.

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   ahorsebackposted 5 years ago

   Get out the lab kit Jaclee , a liberal actually wants proof that they are for open borders ?   Interesting just how divisive they become when questioned about their collective beliefs ? 
   
   "Al Taqiyya " , ever heard that term ?     It is when Islam in religious domination of the world can and will accept that lying can be done to hide the truest intent of world domination . 
   
   Democrats have very craftily adopted that use of lying to attain their intended future for America , "No we don't want open borders , free economic entitlements or socialism in America for all  "  !  Oh No ! ...............show me a liberal who isn't for open borders and thus the increasing of democratic voter roles by illegal immigration and I'll show you my pet unicorn .
   
   No not " el Tequila "........Al Taqiyya .

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