Trump Sure Does Like Scumbags
He seems to like to endorse men with abusive pasts...
1.) Pennsylvania: Trump endorsed Sean Parnell in the Republican primary, even though Parnell was already in the middle of an ugly divorce battle where his wife claimed Parnell had physically abused both her and their children.
2.) Georgia: Trump endorsed former NFL star Herschel Walker. In filing for divorce in 2002, Walker's wife accused him of "physically abusive and extremely threatening behavior" - including pointing a pistol at her head and saying "I'm going to blow your f---king brains out." Should a history of violence and sexual abuse disqualify you from serving in the United States Senate? Some Georgia Republicans think so. But not Donald Trump.
3.) Missouri: Former Gov. Eric Greitens is trying to make a political comeback by running for the Senate seat vacated by the retiring Republican Sen. Roy Blunt. Greitens resigned as governor in 2018 after admitting to an extramarital affair with his hairdresser. An independent panel of state legislators found that Greitens had coerced the woman into performing oral sex, physically abused her, and warned her he'd post naked photos of her online if she didn't keep quiet.
Greitens is working hard to win Trump's endorsement. He's made the obligatory pilgrimage to Mar-A-Lago to kiss Trump's ring. He's hired Trump's pollster, Tony Fabrizio. He's lined up Rudy Giuliani's endorsement. And he's hired Kimberly Guilfoyle, Donald Jr.'s girlfriend, as his national campaign chair. It should be just a matter of time until Donald Sr. gives the endorsement then.Pot kettle politics. For every scumbag one side endorses there is one on the other.
Time to explore the Forward Party and stand against bickering and the total hypocrisy of finger pointing our current political climate has carefully nurtured.Disagree. Once a scumbag's actions have been proven, they are shunned, not welcomed, by the majority of the left. And certainly not endorsed.
Al Franken. Andrew (and now Chris) Cuomo.Are you kidding... This is laughable. It would seem you have a poor memory.
" Once a scumbag's actions have been proven, they are shunned, not welcomed, by the majority of the left. And certainly not endorsed."
Really?
New York Times - "Examining Tara Reade’s Sexual Assault Allegation Against Joe Biden
"By Lisa Lerer and Sydney Ember
Published April 12, 2020
Updated Sept. 28, 2020
WASHINGTON — A former Senate aide who last year accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of inappropriate touching has made an allegation of sexual assault against the former vice president, the Democratic Party’s presumptive presidential nominee this fall.
The former aide, Tara Reade, who briefly worked as a staff assistant in Mr. Biden’s Senate office, told The New York Times that in 1993, Mr. Biden pinned her to a wall in a Senate building, reached under her clothing and penetrated her with his fingers. A friend said that Ms. Reade told her the details of the allegation at the time. Another friend and a brother of Ms. Reade’s said she told them over the years about a traumatic sexual incident involving Mr. Biden.
The former aide, Tara Reade, who briefly worked as a staff assistant in Mr. Biden’s Senate office, told The New York Times that in 1993, Mr. Biden pinned her to a wall in a Senate building, reached under her clothing, and penetrated her with his fingers. A friend said that Ms. Reade told her the details of the allegation at the time. Another friend and a brother of Ms. Reade’s said she told them over the years about a traumatic sexual incident involving Mr. Biden.
A spokeswoman for Mr. Biden said the allegation was false. In interviews, several people who worked in the Senate office with Ms. Reade said they did not recall any talk of such an incident or similar behavior by Mr. Biden toward her or any women. Two office interns who worked directly with Ms. Reade said they were unaware of the allegation or any treatment that troubled her. Last year, Ms. Reade and seven other women came forward to accuse Mr. Biden of kissing, hugging or touching them in ways that made them feel uncomfortable. Ms. Reade told The Times then that Mr. Biden had publicly stroked her neck, wrapped his fingers in her hair and touched her in ways that made her uncomfortable.
Soon after Ms. Reade made the new allegation, in a podcast interview released on March 25, The Times began reporting on her account and seeking corroboration through interviews, documents and other sources. The Times interviewed Ms. Reade on multiple days over hours, as well as those she told about Mr. Biden’s behavior and other friends. The Times has also interviewed lawyers who spoke to Ms. Reade about her allegation; nearly two lawyers who spoke to Ms. Reade about her allegation; nearly two dozen people who worked with Mr. Biden during the early 1990s, including many who worked with Ms. Reade; and the other seven women who criticized Mr. Biden last year, to discuss their experiences with him.
No other allegation about sexual assault surfaced in the course of reporting, nor did any former Biden staff members corroborate any details of Ms. Reade’s allegation. The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden.
On Thursday, Ms. Reade filed a report with the Washington, D.C., police, saying she was the victim of a sexual assault in 1993; the public incident report, provided to The Times by Ms. Reade and the police, does not mention Mr. Biden by name, but she said the complaint was about him. Ms. Reade said she filed the report to give herself an additional degree of safety from potential threats. Filing a false police report may be punishable by a fine and imprisonment.
Ms. Reade, who worked as a staff assistant helping manage the office interns, said she also filed a complaint with the Senate in 1993 about Mr. Biden; she said she did not have a copy of it, and such paperwork has not been located. The Biden campaign said it did not have a complaint. The Times reviewed an official copy of her employment history from the Senate that she provided showing she was hired in December 1992 and paid by Mr. Biden’s office until August 1993.
The seven other women who had complained about Mr. Biden told the Times this month that they did not have any new information about their experiences to add, but several said they believed Ms. Reade’s account.
Last year, Mr. Biden, 77, acknowledged the women’s complaints about his conduct, saying his intentions were benign and promising to be “more mindful and respectful of people’s personal space.”
In response to Ms. Reade’s allegation, Kate Bedingfield, a deputy Biden campaign manager, said in a statement: “Vice President Biden has dedicated his public life to changing the culture and the laws around violence against women. He authored and fought for the passage and reauthorization of the landmark Violence Against Women Act. He firmly believes that women have a right to be heard — and heard respectfully. Such claims should also be diligently reviewed by an independent press. What is clear about this claim: It is untrue. This absolutely did not happen.”
Ms. Reade made her new allegation public as Mr. Biden was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination after winning a string of primaries against his chief rival, Senator Bernie Sanders. Ms. Reade, who describes herself as a “third-generation Democrat,” said she originally favored Marianne Williamson and Senator Elizabeth Warren in the race but voted for Mr. Sanders in the California primary last month. She said her decision to come forward had nothing to do with politics or helping Mr. Sanders, and said neither his campaign nor the Trump campaign had encouraged her to make her allegation.
President Trump has been accused of sexual assault and misconduct by more than a dozen women, who have described a pattern of behavior that went far beyond the accusations against Mr. Biden. The president also directed illegal payments, including $130,000 to a pornographic film actress, Stormy Daniels, before the 2016 election to silence women about alleged affairs with Mr. Trump, according to federal prosecutors.
Mr. Trump has even boasted about his mistreatment of women; in a 2005 recording, he described pushing himself on women and said he would “grab them by the pussy,” bragging that he could get away with “anything” because of his celebrity.
Even so, Mr. Trump has at times attacked opponents over their treatment of women. The president has not mentioned Ms. Reade’s allegation, which has circulated on social media and in liberal and conservative news outlets.
Reid's account --
Ms. Reade, 56, told The Times that the assault happened in the spring of 1993. She said she had tracked down Mr. Biden to deliver an athletic bag when he pushed her against a cold wall, started kissing her neck and hair, and propositioned her. He slid his hand up her cream-colored blouse, she said and used his knee to part her bare legs before reaching under her skirt.
“It happened at once. He’s talking to me and his hands are everywhere and everything is happening very quickly,” she recalled. “He was kissing me and he said, very low, ‘Do you want to go somewhere else?’”
Ms. Reade said she pulled away and Mr. Biden stopped.
“He looked at me kind of almost puzzled or shocked,” she said. “He said, ‘Come on, man, I heard you liked me.’”
At the time, Ms. Reade said she worried whether she had done something wrong to encourage his advances.
“He pointed his finger at me and he just goes: ‘You’re nothing to me. Nothing,’” she said. “Then, he took my shoulders and said, ‘You’re OK, you’re fine.’”
Mr. Biden walked down the hallway, Ms. Reade said, and she cleaned up in a restroom, made her way home, and, sobbing, called her mother, who encouraged her to immediately file a police report.
Instead, Ms. Reade said, she complained to Marianne Baker, Mr. Biden’s executive assistant, as well as to two top aides, Dennis Toner and Ted Kaufman, about harassment by Mr. Biden — not mentioning the alleged assault.
The staff declined to take action, Ms. Reade said, after which she filed a written complaint with a Senate personnel office. She said office staff took away most of her duties, including supervising the interns; assigned her a windowless office; and made the work environment uncomfortable for her.
She said Mr. Kaufman later told her she was not a good fit in the office, giving her a month to look for a job. Ms. Reade never secured another position in Washington.
In an interview, Mr. Kaufman, a longtime friend of Mr. Biden’s who was his chief of staff at the time, said: “I did not know her. She did not come to me. If she had, I would have remembered her.”
Mr. Toner, who worked for Mr. Biden for over three decades, said the allegation was out of character for Mr. Biden. Other senators and office staffs had reputations for harassing women at work and partying after hours, according to those who worked in the office at the time. Mr. Biden was known for racing to catch the train to get home to Wilmington, Del., every night.
“It’s just so preposterous that Senator Biden would be faced with these allegations,” said Mr. Toner, who was deputy chief of staff when Ms. Reade worked in the office. “I don’t remember her. I don’t remember this conversation. And I would remember this conversation.”
The Biden campaign issued a statement from Ms. Baker, Mr. Biden’s executive assistant from 1982 to 2000.
“I never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct, period — not from Ms. Reade, not from anyone,” she said. “I have absolutely no knowledge or memory of Ms. Reade’s accounting of events, which would have left a searing impression on me as a woman professional, and as a manager.”
Melissa Lefko, a former staff assistant for Mr. Biden from 1992 to 1993, said she did not remember Ms. Reade. But she recalled that Mr. Biden’s office was a “very supportive environment for women” and said she had never experienced any kind of harassment there.
“When you work on the Hill, everyone knows who the good guys are and who the bad guys are, and Biden was a good guy,” she said.
Ms. Reade said that she could not remember the exact time, date or location of the assault but that it occurred in a “semiprivate” place in the Senate office complex.
A friend said that Ms. Reade told her about the alleged assault at the time, in 1993. A second friend recalled Ms. Reade telling her in 2008 that Mr. Biden had touched her inappropriately and that she’d had a traumatic experience while working in his office. Both friends agreed to speak to The Times on the condition of anonymity to protect the privacy of their families and their self-owned businesses.
Ms. Reade said she also told her brother, who has confirmed parts of her account publicly but who did not speak to The Times, and her mother, who has since died.
Differing recollections
At the time of the alleged assault, Ms. Reade said she was responsible for coordinating the interns in the office. Two former interns who worked with her said they never heard her describe any inappropriate conduct by Mr. Biden or saw her directly interact with him in any capacity but recalled that she abruptly stopped supervising them in April, before the end of their internship. Others who worked in the office at the time said they remembered Ms. Reade but not any inappropriate behavior.
Friends and former co-workers describe Ms. Reade as friendly, caring, compassionate, and trustworthy, though perhaps a bit naïve. A single mother, she changed her name for protection after leaving an abusive marriage in the late 1990s and put herself through law school in Seattle. After leaving Mr. Biden’s office, she eventually returned to the West Coast, where she worked for a state senator; as an advocate for domestic violence survivors, testifying as an expert witness in court; and for animal rescue organizations.
During her time in Mr. Biden’s office, he was working to pass the Violence Against Women Act, which Mr. Biden has described as his “proudest legislative accomplishment.” In 2017, Ms. Reade retweeted praise for Mr. Biden and his work combating sexual assault. In more recent months, her feed has featured support for Mr. Sanders and criticism of Mr. Biden.
Ms. Reade said she did not disclose the sexual assault allegation last year when she spoke out because she was scared. After her initial complaints were reported last year by a local California newspaper, Ms. Reade said she faced a wave of criticism and death threats, as well as accusations that she was a Russian agent because of Medium posts and tweets, several of which are now deleted, she had written praising President Vladimir Putin.
Ms. Reade said that she was not working for Russia and did not support Mr. Putin, and that her comments were pulled out of context from a novel she was writing at the time.
“It was trying to smear me and distract from what happened, but it won’t change the facts of what happened in 1993,” she said.
She called her praise for Mr. Putin “misguided.” Ms. Reade tried to get legal and public relations support from the Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund, an initiative established by prominent women in Hollywood to fight sexual harassment. Her outreach to the group was first reported by The Intercept.
As it has for thousands of people who have contacted the group, the Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund, which does not represent clients, gave her a list of lawyers with expertise in such cases. She said she contacted every single one but none took her case. Two lawyers confirmed speaking to Ms. Reade but declined to comment on the record about her or the allegation.
SKDKnickerbocker, the political consulting firm where Mr. Biden’s chief strategist, Anita Dunn, works as a managing director, has a contract with the Time’s Up legal defense fund. Ms. Dunn has never worked with the fund and her firm was not told of Ms. Reade’s request, according to officials at the fund.
Ms. Reade also contacted at least one of the women who spoke out along with her last year about Mr. Biden’s penchant for physical contact.
Lucy Flores, a former Nevada state assemblywoman who accused Mr. Biden of making her uncomfortable by kissing and touching her during a 2014 campaign event, exchanged a few emails last year with Ms. Reade but said Ms. Reade did not share her full story.
“Biden is not just a hugger,” Ms. Flores said. “Biden very clearly was invading women’s spaces without their consent in a way that made them feel uncomfortable. Does he potentially have the capacity to go beyond that? That’s the answer everyone is trying to get at.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/p … laint.html
And then there is Bill Clinton... need I go on?
ME TOO --- "All women must be believed..." Guess not so much when the accusation is against a president.Of course I knew you'd bring up this case as you always like to do.
Reade's accusations have more inconsistencies than the ones lobbed against Brett Kavanaugh. They have been vetted and if they were found credible, which they have not been, then the Democratic party would have moved on from Biden.
Only far-right people detached from reality now still cling to her account since it's been looked into and all the different versions made public, let alone the other people who have noted Reade's character.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/1 … ces-260771
From the Tara Reade wiki page:
In April 2019, the Associated Press interviewed Reade about the allegations she was making at the time; finding that parts of her story contradicted other reports, and that her accusations could not be corroborated, the A.P. declined to report them. At the time, Reade told the Associated Press that Biden rubbed her shoulders and neck and played with her hair. She said a fellow aide told her to dress more modestly at work. Reade said "I wasn't scared of [Biden], that he was going to take me in a room or anything. It wasn't that kind of vibe."[33]
The Washington Post also interviewed Reade in 2019; it declined to report that interview. In 2020, The Washington Post wrote that Reade had told them that Biden touched her neck and shoulders, "and he had people around saying it was okay". Reade blamed Biden's staff for "bullying", giving less blame to Biden himself: "This is what I want to emphasize: It's not him. It's the people around him who keep covering for him ... he should have known what was happening to me ... Maybe he could have been a little more in touch with his own staff." The Washington Post stated that Reade in 2019 "did not mention the alleged assault or suggest there was more to the story".[10][9]
In April 2019, Reade contacted Vox reporter Laura McGann to tell her story. Vox did not publish any stories about Reade in 2019, after McGann tried but was not able to verify Reade's account; McGann wrote an article praising other women who had shared allegations about Biden's inappropriate touches. In May 2020, McGann detailed the allegations Reade made to her in 2019, and quoted Reade as saying "I don't know if [Biden] knew why I left ... He barely knew us by name." Reade sent McGann an essay that was similar to her essay published by The Union in 2019. McGann highlighted the following sentences, which were identical in both essays: "This is not a story about sexual misconduct; it is a story about abuse of power. It is a story about when a member of Congress allows staff to threaten or belittle or bully on their behalf unchecked to maintain power rather than modify the behavior."[34] Reade explained that she had not shared her full story in 2019 because she thought that "the media was shutting her down"; McGann disputes the accuracy of this characterization of reporters' interactions, and notes that Reade had formerly been "adamant ... that this wasn't a [sexual-]misconduct story".[34]
In 2019, Reade told McGann that Reade's deceased mother and one of Reade's friends were the only people she could name as having confided in. The friend in 2019 told McGann "[i]t wasn't that bad. [Biden] never tried to kiss her directly. He never went for one of those touches. It was one of those, 'sorry you took it that way.' ... What was creepy was that it was always in front of people." Reade told McGann that media outlets including The New York Times were working on publishing her story.[34]
Lewinsky has always claimed the encounter was consensual. Clinton was impeached for lying. Hardly the level of abuse we are seeing from these Trump endorsements."Of course I knew you'd bring up this case as you always like to do"
Why would I not... Your thread was bait was it not? "Trump Sure Does Like Scumbags"
It has no noteworthy relevance to anything -- in my view. Just dirty laundry and the Dem politicians drowned in sicko scandals. Pot calling frying pan ...
Actually was not talking about Lewinsky. I was referring to his association with Jeffrey Epstein. And the rape of Kathleen Willey claims that Clinton fondled her breast and forced her hand on his crotch in the Oval Office in 1993 when she was a White House volunteer.
Most seriously of all, Juanita Broaddrick claims that Clinton raped her during his 1978 campaign for Arkansas governor.
I believe the women straight up... And I might add, Biden's inappropriate behavior is no secret. And it did not stop the majority from voting for him.I'd have to lean on believing those earlier claims against Clinton as well. But if you have such concern with Clinton's associations with Jeffrey Epstein, it should stand to reason you would have the same issue with Trump's - but wonder why that's not the case.
I would like to say our party had moved past Bill Clinton, but nearly putting him back into the White House as First 'Gentlemen' does slightly undermine all culpability in the Democratic Party moving past scumbags.
There were many looking for a better option than Clinton. I was leaning Kasich over her myself, choosing to vote for a Republican over her. But when the GOP went to a bigger scumbag than Clinton, it was the choice of lesser scumbags."But if you have such concern with Clinton's associations with Jeffrey Epstein, it should stand to reason you would have the same issue with Trump's - but wonder why that's not the case."
I will be honest, I feel it unfortunate that we have had candidates that did go on to be the Presidents, that had histories of such disgusting sexual allegations.
I think it hypocritical to point at Trump and ignore Bill, and Joe...Did you vote for Biden? If so did it bother you to hear the sexual allegations? Did these allegations stop you from casting that vote?
Yes, it would appear we had the choice between two men that have several sexual scandals. It would appear it came down to the choice of who could do the better job, plain, and simple. I vote, no matter what --- I vote.
I am at the point I make a pros and cons list. Biden came out lacking in true qualifications to do the job of president.
Hopefully, at some point, we will have candidates that have better morals. Until then, I will continue to vote. I am not willing to sit on the sideline.And a difference between the two men that I note with this post is that Biden, while having his own issues with women, is not out there endorsing others with those kinds of public issues. Trump is backing people with an open history of abuse towards women - Biden is not.
Combine that with the likely Supreme Court ruling that is going to go against Roe, and the GOP is handing the Democrats their own midterm talking point with a hefty portion of likely voters.Got your point, it's fair. However, it is early and we really don't know what the 2022 election will bring. Not sure if Biden would stump for anyone.
I certainly hope Roe is not overturned. I don't think it will be.Deleted
If RvW is overturned I would expect Democrats to immediately stack the SCOTUS bench with another half dozen far left liberals and re-instate it. That's how our exalted government works today - anything to get what they want.
But I also keep hearing that even if the state wins their case it does not mean that RvW is finished; that the verdict could support both. That would be an interesting plot line as there are more than a few states ready to end all abortions if RvW does fall to the far right - what would they then do?Trump made no secret that he is pro-life while campaigning, and has been very verbal about his view. As I said I am for leaving Roe in place, but I like the fact Trump as a politician did not hesitate to speak his mind.
I disagree that the Republican Party is controlled by "increasingly controlled by far-right extremists". In my view, I find the party leaning into the realm of independents in some respect. It certainly is no longer the one pathed with blinders on the conservative party. of old.
Lot's of young adults are bringing new blood and new
energy to the Republican party.
Yes, and there is no doubt we will see many of what they call "protests" if all goes as predicted in 2022... Violent protests are a given if the Republicans take back Congress. The Democrats will be out in numbers hopefully they stay in their own Dem cities as they have in the past with their "protests". They play ugly. And their politicians support ugly...
I know this is harsh, but I find it to be very true.Deleted
"As far as violence being a given, are you predicting another capital riot type of situation?"
I would be more to predict that in 2022 if, and I say if the Republicans take back the Congress --- I certainly could imagine there could be protests. I think the country is at a boiling point, There are segments in our society that certainly could boil over, again on both parties.
Not sure what you refer to, when you say, currently seem to be dominated by the often belligerence of a few freshmen Congresswomen. The party in general does not back the few you speak of. It would seem they are on an island alone. I agree, the leadership has seemed to do little to calm their divisive rhetoric. They certainly have not condoned it.
We have outspoken congresswomen in both parties. I think an intelligent person can listen to the rhetoric and put it in perspective.Deleted
You've got that right! While we disagree in particulars, none of us is from the rabid edges of the political spectrum. We can get along with each other (even though you're sometimes wrong!
)oh gawwwd, a damn lovefest. Campfire at 9.
If this keeps up I might have to resurrect ahorseback and Randy.
GAWell, bring the hot chocolate if you do. A campfire is always better with hot chocolate. With marshmallows if you please.
LOL I could have sworn you were speaking of the Democrat party, with it's few vocal congresswomen (+ Pelosi, of course), and the unwillingness to calm their hateful and divisive rhetoric.
But seriously, I guess it's which side of the fence we sit on, and which side is perceived to be attacking us and our concepts of right and wrong for the country. I don't imagine that will change any time soon, either, not with Congress nearly always voting lockstep with the party that got them elected and will do so again...as long as they continue to vote as decreed by that party.
Much like the tax cuts (33% approval) that were hugely unpopular in 2017 because anyone with above a third grade education could see that they would not pay for themselves based on 30 years of history, people with GOP leanings will go against the will of the majority of Americans if they overturn Roe (66% approval).
Combine that with the numbers of GOP officials who opposed such popular measures as the infrastructure bill (63% approve) and the Biden Stimulus package (79% approve), and the point that Faye made about legislating to the furthest edges of the country starts to really stick out.I feel badly you mentioned Sean Parnell.
I've met him and he is a good guy. He is a former combat company commander in the Army rangers. He a successful author and more.
There is much to this story you won't hear about in the media.
He got in the crosshairs of the left and they have some who have dedicated themselves to destroying him.
He is so impressive. It's just a shame this had to happen to him. Like I said, there is much to this story the media won't tell you.
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