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   Kenna McHughposted 22 months ago

   Do we "live in a vineyard" or "on a vineyard"? Grammarly says "in."

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      GhulamNabiMemonposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      in a vineyard

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         Muna786posted 22 months agoin reply to this

         Hi, Ghulam
         I am also from Pakistan. Paypal account does not work in Pakistan then how you recieve your payment. Tell me Thanks.

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            Miebakagh57posted 22 months agoin reply to this

            Hey there, the discussion focus on a grammartically correct sentence, using the word 'in' or 'on'                                               But is it not too early to digress to Paypal? Anyway, you're welcome.

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      Stephen Tomkinsonposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Hi Kenna.
      It depends on what you mean.:
      Compare:
      "Susan lives in a vineyard in California"
      and
      "Susan lives on a vineyard in California"
      The first suggests that the vineyard is her residence.
      The second suggests that her residence is within a vineyard.
      Grammarly is also suggesting that I should use "in·. But Grammarly is not infallible.

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         Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

         I see. It's almost like splitting hairs. When I think of "on," I see it as on the land, not "in" the land. Would you say, "I lived in an island" or "on an island."?

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            Stephen Tomkinsonposted 22 months agoin reply to this

            In an abandoned shack on an island.

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               Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

               Or: There was no abandoned island when I was on the island.

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      tsmogposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      I always ponder that usage, yet I also consider 'at'. Do I live at Calif or in Calif. Below is what the English Club says about it. Though reading that I still ponder usage
      
      Prepositions of Place: at, in, on
      https://www.englishclub.com/grammar/pre … -in-on.htm

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         Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

         Thanks for sharing. Using "at" seems awkward because it means arriving at a point or destination. I noticed "on" means on a surface, so I'd use that to say, "I am on the vineyard."

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      Miebakagh57posted 22 months agoin reply to this

      I used the standard British English in writing my articles.                                     But Grammarly, which is formatted in American English, seems not to agree with the British style.                                       Curiously, look at the sentence: 'I live at the Moley Vineyard'. Is the 'at' a good substitute for 'in' or 'on'? Just asking.

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         Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

         I am beginning to believe they are interchangeable. It depends on how well it reads.

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            Miebakagh57posted 22 months agoin reply to this

            They's nothing to believe. They's something to note or understand. And, these notes should come out of an English workshop say, at an international level.                                         Then, only then that it would be easy to state as in 1+1=2, or 1+1=10...any statement that would grammatically and universely be accept.

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               Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

               I hear you. In most cases, I'd leave it up to the editor, but on HubPages, it's up to the writer first.

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                  Miebakagh57posted 22 months agoin reply to this

                  Great!

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   eugbugposted 22 months ago

   Unless it's a commercial entity/property maybe? We live on a farm, but in a garden.

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      Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Interesting, I want to write "on" because "in" seem more indoors than outdoors or not as spacious.

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   Misbah786posted 22 months ago

   Interesting discussion. English is a very funny language since it has been transformed into new versions (such as Hunglish, Spanglish, Hinglish, etc.) after being slaughtered in a thousand different ways in different regions of the world. Even English speakers are confused and discussing which words to use in, on, at, and so on. Enjoying it!
   
   I agree that Grammarly isn't always correct and sometimes make some really dumb mistakes.
   Blessings to all!

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      Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      I agree. These little words can grab all your attention thanks to their many definitions.

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   ravirajan01posted 22 months ago

   Well, Kenna if we go as per how we say for any country, for example," we live in India", "We live in Norway" and so on, then it makes sense to say "we live in a vineyard".

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      Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      That makes sense. What about I spent my youth... or weekend... it still applies?

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      eugbugposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      We live in India on planet Earth in the Solar System in the Milky Way Galaxy in the local galaxy cluster in the Universe.

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         Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

         I am with you on that one!

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            Miebakagh57posted 22 months agoin reply to this

            I think think this is one grazy way of speaking?

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   ravirajan01posted 22 months ago

   I think so Kenna."I spent my youth in Norway" makes sense I believe.

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      Muna786posted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Hi, reviarajen.
      I am new writer on hubpage and I have one featured article. Please tells me some tips that will help me to make my articles feature.

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   ravirajan01posted 22 months ago

   Hi Muna
   Just read https://hubpages.com/faq/ thoroughly and you will get most of your answers. The help is one of the best I have found on any platform so far.

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   Stephen Tomkinsonposted 22 months ago

   In HubPages?

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      Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Stephen,
      
      No, my clients have guidelines structure that they/I follow. I have never seen a HubPages editor change my prepositions.

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      Miebakagh57posted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Where or how does the 'In' comes in?

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   Stephen Tomkinsonposted 22 months ago

   Well, some of us do.

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   Rupert Taylorposted 22 months ago

   Can I add a further complexity to our crazy language?
   
   Why do we say "the" flu and not the appendicitis?
   
   Why do we refer to tuna "fish" and not sole fish?
   
   Isn't this fun?

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      Kenna McHughposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Oh yeah! Besides, it's unpredictable! There are too many exceptions to the rule.

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    Jodahposted 22 months ago

    It sure is a crazy language. Here in Australia we just say tuna, not tuna fish.

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    Miebakagh57posted 22 months ago

    The calender could not make better sense than calender?                                         Why the English language is that crazy? Don't ask Rupert, ask me! It's because it had no spare parts. It's borrowing from other foreign languages is too much. Can anyone here find an English word for 'baptism'?

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