What would you do with all the immigrants?

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   days leaperposted 9 years ago

   How many would you say are ISlamic Extremist Insurgent Terrorists sneaking in?

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      Nadeem Koudsiposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Non are Islamic Extremist Insurgent Terrorists.
      About 5000 - 6000 Europeans have traveled to Syria and joined ISIS. The extremists are actively recruiting people from Europe, Americas and East Asia. Their main interest is controlling the land in Iraq and Syria. They have no time to attack anywhere else at the moment.
      What would you do with all the immigrants?
      Treat them as human beings and they will surely be of a significant value to the country they settle in.

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         days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         or sponge of it, take it for granted and eventually succumb to the IS brain washing.  Politicians opening doors granting homes, benefits etc. are treating foreigners better than the homogenous -what then happens when not all are being treat equally, but second class citizens eg. overlooked for work because a foreigner has similar qualifications.  Not allowed benefit because, though not admitted, immigrants could be employed more cheaply in some cases.
           There's flats put up, they called luxury apartments, but the place is still a slum.  In other areas, immigrants are getting really nice new homes built specially for them, Whilst those here for countless generations are still having to put up with slums, and why can't these homes at least go to the homeless that we already have in the country?
         And just in case there isn't enough nails in the coffin to your flimsy ideology (no disrespect meant), And I hate to remind you.  But what happened when America held an open door policy?  Sorry, but not every-one was grateful were they? ..remember 9/11!

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            Nadeem Koudsiposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            9/11 was an inside job! I will not discuss this here and now. I understand from your comment that you are an american who live in the US. Please note that most of US citizens were Immigrants at some point or a descendant of immigrants. Your main question was  How many would you say are Islamic Extremist Insurgent Terrorists sneaking in? and I answered it. Regarding what you said about benefits that  your government is giving to the immigrants, it's because they look at it from humane POV not from someone who can't find a job POV. If immigrants can get jobs easily while US citizens had years to find one then the problem is with the citizens not with immigrants.

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               days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               your assumption is wrong, not US/ And not seeking work. but many uk are seeking work and can't find any due to the mass influx.
               My next question would be though, is it always immigrants and their relatives that take view points like yours???

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                  Nadeem Koudsiposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh dear Leaper. What mass influx are you talking about? do you mean the 1000 refugees that the UK accepted from the beginning of 2015, while rejecting the other 9000 Asylum seekers? UK is the least wanted country in Europe for asylum as opposed to Germany, Sweden, Norway, France, and many other countries.
                  I did not migrate to UK and I don't have relatives in the UK so I don't know how to answer your question.
                  one last thing, if you stop looking at people as indigenous and migrants you will be a lot happier and you will be in contact with your human side more.

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                     days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     the illegal camps, the lorry loads and boat loads of uninvited economic spungers, is what I refer to and it's 2000 but there's already too many.
                     And as for my human side, the genuine asylum seekers fleeing war etc. if genuine would be content with basic sanitation, rations etc.  We should be concentrating more on making their countrys safe and sending them back home.
                     
                     But as you say, ignorance is bliss.... ...until it's too late!

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                        Live to Learnposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                        How would you propose to do that?

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                           days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                           What happened to the UN enforcing no fly zone, not ruling out sending in troops, and of course diplomacy as the three main stratedgies.  But of course this costs money, and that lot don't like spending unless it's on themselves; for holidays and suchlike ...

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                              Live to Learnposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                              Well, a no fly zone doesn't make the country safer. Sending in troops doesn't appear to help stability in the Middle East.
                              
                              I like the idea of making their country safer but actually doing it in a long term game changing manner involves winning hearts and minds of the majority of the population.  Not something the West has had a lot of luck with in that part of the world. I think it is difficult since one way we believe is imperative to ensure freedom is not to let religion control the laws; yet these countries are full of people who think otherwise and they allow despots to use that against them.

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                                 wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                 That's correct; we cannot make those countries safer.  We might help, but we cannot do it until the citizenry of that country decides as a whole that they do not want the violence and are willing to pay for their wants in the only coin recognized; their blood.

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                                    days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                    I agree it's a massive task, but US lead coalition started it with the Iraq invasion, and now appears reluctant to do anything meaningful.  I don't believe a massive power like America can't stop a relatively small bunch of extremist, though the time to have done it was early on, "nip it in the bud."  It seems politics has always got in the way of US war campaigns.
                                    
                                    With the immigrants.  use subs or something, sink the boats and take the survivors back to where/near where they came from!  Otherwise, they're just going to keep coming and cause a population imbalance etc...

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                                       Live to Learnposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                       I've got to raise an eyebrow at this one. You suggest we make their countries safer, then suggest we sink the boats they are fleeing on? I don't see that as safer.
                                       
                                       You're from the UK, complaining about the invasion of foreign refugees into your country while suggesting that the US step up the extent of their invasion in the Middle East. Are some foreign invaders acceptable to you? Or, is any invasion acceptable as long as it doesn't involve the UK?
                                       
                                       Unfortunately, in order to truly wipe out ISIS it would involve a heavy ground campaign which will not alleviate the problem of foreign refugees attempting to work their way north. It would probably escalate that problem. So, since an attempt to help would cause the EU to shoulder the brunt of the burden it would make more sense for the EU to take the lead on this one.

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                                          days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                          Im saying use all methods, any invasion anywhere is unacceptable, that is to say 1. as a refugee they believe in some divine right to be granted privileges.  And 2.  As a country to take it over.  However, to get rid of trouble makers is a good policy.

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                           days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                           as written about sinking boats but saving passengers to return them home, or to the nearest camp.

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   psycheskinnerposted 9 years ago

   What would I do about the immigrants? Keep being one, I guess.

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      days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      some foreigners in a place enrich that place, but when there are police no go areas (like near where I live), and authorities daren't deal with crime from certain ethnic group.  By my book that has gone too far.
      I would also state that the system is flawed with more holes than Henry's bucket.

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   ahorsebackposted 9 years ago

   
   
   We all have to ask ourselves  , "What price is to be paid  in the allowing of illegal immigration , at our borders or at any borders to go on unchecked "   ?
   
   This IS the most disturbing photo I have ever seen related to this issue !
   
   And yet , we HAVE to address illegal immigration at our borders  NOW ,    Do  ANY of you here really believe that this doesn't  happen on the Mexican border ?    Do any of you realize how many people die crossing the deserts of our American southwest ?   Is THIS okay with those of you  who opt for for doing NOTHING ?

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      days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      if they are not invited they should not try to get here.  Terror cruises are no way to get a better life!  The warning is there for all, except the media twist it into emotional blackmail to promote a flailing economy..  My Great GrandParents survived two World Wars, they didn't run away like cowards, no!  They did their bit for the war effort!!!

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   ahorsebackposted 9 years ago

   According to New York Times  , there were 463  immigrant deaths on the Mexican  border in the last 12 months !  How did they die ?   Dehydration ,  homicide ,other   exploitations my illegal  operators ?   
   Yet , we as Americans are perfectly willing to say "Let them cross "   ,- I ask you at what cost ?

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      days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      at what cost? ... |Well, according to Nostradamus, if the best translations are to be believed, it doesn't look good for the world as we know it.
      As for the deaths.  "War is war" to quote the tough Japanese general from WWII.  ...It's how the world keeps the population manageable!  A necessary evil, no matter how tragic, emotive etc.

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   ahorsebackposted 9 years ago

   So lets simply start a war directed  AGAINST illegals ? Great answer , better get back to reading  Nostradamus .

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      days leaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      the war as you put it is against the smugglers, kill their boats and it will hurt their wallets, if you look properly I was saying as boat sinks pick up its passengers, perhaps if you do learn to read properly you too can read Nostradamus for yourself!

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