The new world order is the economic control of the world by international bankers. It is a one world economic system that has abused the middle classes through liar loans and scam rules from Basil 2 that allowed banks to hide toxic assets OFF balance sheet. This international banker class has now robbed treasuries to bail itself out after having become massively rich by scamming.
Some say the CFR is a front for this group. Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich are members. It doesn't matter whether they are repubs or dems. They all seek this new world order. The battle is between the international bankers and the middle classes that can be subject to easy money scams and raids on their treasuries at any time.
Gordon Brown announced this new world order on 4/2/2009. They don't even bother to hide it anymore.
I did not see or hear it, but am only mildly surprised.The theft has got to the stage where no one should be surprised by anything these sick money grabbers do!
Thanks for the heads up. I will catch it on BBC.
I agree with what you have posted and the Gordon Brown NWO speech is in my video collection at YouTube.
The sad thing about this is that many people think that the New World Order will be a good thing if a country's leader is on about it but it will not and cannot because it is a worldwide totalitarian government by the elite with a one-world army/police force, one currency and with millions of micro-chipped subjects monitored by a central computer. It is not a 'new' idea but is the realisation of the masonic Great Work of Ages. It is also a book by HG Wells.
Wikipedia has pages devoted to the New World Order.
The current "economic crisis" has been engineered to advance the NWO agenda.
And yet, no matter what happens I seem to make the same no money I've always not made.
Seriously, I think it will all collapse at some point, and when it does what will this cabal have if it truly exists? Do they want my woodpile? My dog? My Goodwill wardrobe? I don't know, I don't HAVE anything of value (not even unwanted gold and silver jewelry to trade in for cash today!), so, you know, it's going to be hard for them to take all the crap I don't have anyway.
I guess I could become soylent green or something. But there again, I've already outlived my parents so taking my life, big deal. Already had a great one.
What is their purpose? World domination? To what end? What do they want to do with all that power? I mean, there has to be some motive doesn't there?
It seems no-one has answered your question. Prophecy teachers have been saying for decades that this NWO and cashless sociey,are coming. There is a purpose and a motive to it. Many of you will hate to hear it, because it is "religious", but, it must be said. The whole thing, NWO, cashless society, power over the masses, etc is leading to the rise of a "world leader", commonly referred to as the Antichrist. The ultimate result will be imposed worship of him, (as god).
It's in the Book, for those of you who want to know more.
Well, , I think if being in 'power' is not about responsibility and service (as leadership should be), then it is about mental illness in every sense of the word. But the way that goes is that the fear card is often played upon those who are susceptible (and well, doesn't that just happen to be most, the way everything is set up? You do have to eat, etc.)
The con is so great that even a few years ago I believed 'those in power' in any capacity--senior management, etc., whatever, just had something 'extra' that should be respected (oh, they certainly tell us to in oh so many ways, don't they?) I even think one is inured to the whole process in high school... Now I am sure the power players DO NOT have anything extra--and actually probably have much less than a full humanity chip--which is necessary to a real leader, a), and which they b), ego maniacally try to achieve by abusing others.
Yep. Plant a garden. Eat rice and wear rags. Throw some tea into a harbor. What have you.
Lita, I couldn't agree more. The people in charge of this mess are just human beings, nothing more, nothing less. That is why it is such a mess. Human beings are fallible. There may well be one or two Machiavellian monsters in the machinery, but time and tide will shake them out, as it always does.
That's what I think too. I worked at one of the failed banks--came to MI to take a job there--and I assure you it was not run by evil overlords, just your standard handful of sub-average dickheads. It takes a certain personality to focus on money and power to the exclusion of all else, and I find that people who are like this aren't necessarily bad people (they are good salespeople, for instance), they just shouldn't be handed the keys to the family car. That's what we've done--handed the keys to the family car to a bunch of dickhead bankers.
But I part company at the point where it turns into this New World Order Antichrist cabal of the all powerful elite for the purpose of world domination nonsense.
You KNOW things are getting weird when Misha and I are agreeing on something in the economics realm! lol!
Exactly! What IS the purpose? It's a well knonw progression, that people lust for money, once they have the money, they lust for power. In days gone by, once they had the money and the power, they set themselves up to be "worshipped"
You certainy can part company on this (or any other)point, but doing so could be an act of (self)deception, burying your head in the sand. It won't make things go away.
BTW, who actually gets that money?What DO they do with it? I am not a betting man, but I can bet that it will not go to any "good" cause, that will benefit the likes of you and me.
You got it Lita. But in this country we're probably better off growing some yams instead of depending on rice. The more we get our needs fulfilled locally, the better off we all will be. Of course sharing and working together is important part of being locally suported as well.
Some things are out of our control now. Makes me feel helpless, yet as Pam said, I have nothing anyone would want, but I hate to lose even that. Just don't touch my satellite TV and Remote or computer, baby!! Or the dog. The husband? WELLLLL ) They'd bring him back, they always do.
Is there some giant kill the world plan? Perhaps. Guess something has to get us.
Meantime, plant those tomatoes.
If you've any doubt about the respect our Gordon commands from his electorate, then catch up with this glorious Youtube clip. It's proving popular with the British viewers. Already around two million hits inside a week:
Really, does anyone believe this nonsense about world leaders scamming the electorate via the banking system? The truth is that they have to be seen to do something, and this is that something. They can't come out of that high profile meeting hanging their heads and saying, Ohmygod, we're so screwed, even if that's what they're thinking (which it probably is!)
This is not about scamming. It is about transferring wealth from the middle classes to the very tiny upper crust. Power. Control. Wealth. I hesitate to use the word "money" because I can't even say for sure we will still have money by the time this has finished going through it's inevitable cycle - electronic world credits? possibly?. You think the banking sector lost a lot of money last year? Wait till this year's losses come out. And be sure the governments will print more money to fill the gap.
Mark, they can print more money. Of course they will do so. After all, they've thrown away the rulebook now. But the more money there is in the pool, the less it is worth. Money has a value when it is scarce. Less so when it is plentiful.
The problem Amanda is this: The treasuries would not have been raided by these fascist (socialism controlled by the private sector) banks if the nations would have had the power to take these banks temporarily into nationalization. They refused to do so but if they had done so the BONDHOLDERS of the bank corporate bonds would have had to give up some of their investment, and we would not be facing the possibility of massive inflation down the road.
But Bernanke came along and said that the United States lacked the sovereign power to nationalize the international banks like Citibank. Roubini has said failure to nationalize the weak international banks will DOUBLE the bailout money necessary from the taxpayers.
Think about it Amanda. First they stole from the middle class by selling liar loans. Then they scammed investors and pension funds by selling the crap bonds created from the liar loans. Then they made money off the taxpayers by being too big to fail and by not allowing their corporate bondholders to take a hit. They were protecting their swaps, their derivative positions and their bond positions.
Here are some quotes about the New World Order from http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/006/migration-2.htm
"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis..." David Rockefeller
"I see a world of open borders, open trade and, most importantly, open minds; a world that celebrates the common heritage that belongs to all the world's people.... I see a world building on the emerging new model of European unity. ... [T]he United Nations is the place to build international support and consensus for meeting the other challenges we face.... the threats to the environment, terrorism... international drug trafficking... refugees.... [W]e must join together in a new compact -- all of us -- to bring the United Nations into the 21st century." Former President George H. W. Bush
"Globalization is not a random-walk process. It moves forward according to a tangible, coherent and well-planned strategy." Patrick Wood, The Globalization Strategy
My point then, Amanda, is that these people seem to have a lofty goal, but really they are just thieving money changers. Nothing has changed. Just the plan is more comprehensive.
Your video proves the point, Amanda, that the taxpayer is getting hit with a potential devaluation of both the pound and the dollar down the road. That is stealing. Jefferson warned about private banks manipulating currency through deflation and inflation to steal from the people. The revolutionary war was fought to rid the US of banker prison.
And yet the middle classes, including the American one most of all, are simply asleep as they are being robbed. And the robbers are the formulators of the "global village".
Even the stock markets are manipulated by these people through the hedge funds.
You're talking about America in the main here, which is fair enough if that's where you come from. The British government has gone about their banking bail-outs in a different way. We can, and have nationalised, or part nationalised. Other countries have had to take similar steps. The USA is keen to preserve the right of the individual to get as wealthy as possible off the backs of others, but this doesn't apply globally.
Amanda, you need to realize that the British and American definition of nationalization is confusing the public. They define nationalization as the government taking the bad assets on their books and giving the banks good treasury debt. That nationalization is NOT nationalization. The bad bank plan is a rip off of the taxpayer. The PPIP in the US is a bad bank plan. If the toxic loan bonds tank, the taxpayer will bear the risk. Same for what Britain is doing.
REAL nationalization requires the bank corporate bondholders to share the pain (like the US is making General Motors do) and take a haircut. That is NOT the nationalization that the Obama or Brown regimes are talking about.
I don't personally dislike these people. But remember they have sold their souls for money. They have catered to the international bankers who are raiding the treasuries of BOTH the USA and Britain!
Amanda, you must see that this is all smoke to confuse you. Britain is in massive debt and the pound is in big trouble.
I don't doubt that for even one second. I know that they are in way over their heads, and so are we. Life here in the South-east of England still has a veneer of normality, but fresh cracks are appearing daily. I now know six people in my immediate circle who have been made unemployed since October last year, and not a one of them has been re-employed. House prices are tumbling at a dizzying rate. The high streets are looking worryingly empty as shop after shop closes. If this is all part of a grand plan to rob us all of our money and relocate it in the coffers of some tiny elite, then it's a pretty sick plan, and it's also one doomed to failure, because if everyone's unemployed, then who is it that will be providing the fantasy lifestyle that this so-called elite must surely crave. There has to be strata in society in order to prop up that elite, and if they're bright enough to mastermind the corralling of 99% of the world's assets, then they must surely know that.
Ah Amanda, but you need to realize that these people are gamblers. They also are in a position of strength in the time of weakness. Look at this, Amanda. This link shows what people predicted. Banks will buy up each others assets and the losses will be on the taxpayer, not on the banks. This is such a CONTINUING scam.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Bailedout … ;ccode=TBD
If I remember, George Bush, the elder, made a lot of noise about the new world order back during his presidency. It's not new, he let the cat out of the bag long ago.
Yes Dolores and so did Gerald Ford speak about the New World Order. I wrote a hub about One World Government. What I said essentially is that the governments are remaining separate, but the global banking system is virtually integrated and the bankers in control control the finances of the world.
Whether the next step of more sovereign power being given up will come to pass remains to be seen. The US balked at a financial zar who would have controlled all governments. Europe wanted that.
Hey Mark I can see the inflation vigilantes just chomping at the bit to drive the price of oil higher. I mean we have gasoline coming out the ying yang (whereever that is) and the price keeps gong up.
If we get a whiff, even a half a whiff, of inflation down the road oil will be like gold before the governments decided at G20 to sell gold:) Oil will be really high and we will pay heavily.
I was trying to explain this to some one else the other day. Simple fact is - if you own it, it will be worth less. If you need to buy it, it will cost more.
The die is cast and I, like everyone else, am totally unsure which way to jump.
If you have anything to invest you should think about helping set up an organic garden. If you are not into gardening, you could find people who are and help them to buy land, seed, pay for labor or whatever you can to make it work. That way you can expect to get some stored food even if inflation gets out of control. There is no way to go on our own.
I think it's going to get real bad within two years. So we should all store non-parishable foods, but to some extent we need to let our inner hippie come out and start treating our neigbors like brothers and sisters. If you really don't like any of your neighbors then you should move to some place where you could get stuck and not go crazy. Some great things to own would be a water distiller, a generator that runs on something other than gasoline, and hard to get but useful items for trade.
Even if we don't suffer a total collapse it's good to be self-sufficient and integrated with a local community of somewhat like-minded people.
Misha you really need to pay attention here. The banks will have the power to artificially bid up their own assets or the assets of the other big banks. if they all bid up each others assets in the auction the taxpayer will get killed, unless everything works out. The risk is on the taxpayer Misha and that is a ponzi against the taxpayers. Maybe it will work out, but maybe it won't. If it doesn't the taxpayer could be on the hook for trillions of dollars more.
You haven't studied Basel 2. Who do you think allowed the banks in the first place to have off balance assets? Who do you think paved the way for toxic loans? Who do you think paved the way for massive derivative bonds based upon those loans? Who do you think allowed the pillaging of small investors and pension funds?
I will give you two international banker names. Phil Gramm and Robert Rubin working within the framework of Basel 2, 1998. There, one a repub and another a dem. And this war is a class war against the middle class waged by the international bankers. It is a war they are winning because people like you don't take this seriously. Don't take it personally:)
When gas goes to 6 dollars a gallon you can remember this post.
Bgamall, I don't buy into conspiracy theories. I tend to attribute things that happen to natural causes rather then to small evil group of people trying to conquer the World. Not that nobody tried, yet all those attempts fall way short of completion. Human society is too complex for a few people to be able to control it.
So far this approach allowed me to forecast what was happening in the last couple of years with pretty high accuracy, and I don't see any reason to abandon it.
Well, some have said that an antichrist existed in the Roman empire toward the end of the first century. As far as religious implications, we do know that God did not look kindly on a one world government in the Old Testament, so why would he look kindly on one now? And Jesus was not fond of moneychangers who put everything aside but money.
In the current crisis, the moneychangers from the USA spread toxic and lying (in terms of credit rating) bonds throughout the world. They sold their souls for a buck. It appears our leaders have done the same thing. And this applies to Republicans and Democrats alike.
The Republicans want empire building through war. The Democrats want some of that (Afghanistan where we want a pipeline to the Caspian Sea) and they want the global village to be strengthened to the favor of the International bankers.
The strengthening of the IMF just taking place at the G20 meeting is a strengthening of the wealthy countries and the increased indebtedness of the poor countries. The increase in IMF funding assures that the international bankers get stronger. They are the villains yet they are being strengthened. They are the backbone of the New World Order.
This is a great link about what the IMF really does: http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns … enIMF.html
Londongirl, nationalization in Britain has been a bad bank plan for the biggest banks. Trust me Londongirl, the Bank of England or HBC will not be nationalized unless the entire fabric of English culture is disintegrating and maybe not then. There are certain banks too big to fail.
These are the international banks who are protected by the western world. Governments buy their toxic assets but do not nationalize them in the time honored way.
As far as 6 dollars a gallon is concerned, the US is a big place. Some people commute 100 miles to work every day.
Real nationalization destroys or partially destroys the corporate bank bondholders. Anything less is not nationalization.
Make up your mind, though. You stated as a fact there hadn't been any actual nationalistaion in the UK. There has been.
Hey Mark, Christ said that His kingdom was not of this world so his servants would not fight. The people who burn at the stake and the dominionists like Sarah Palin who want to take the world over for Christ are not true followers. They are imposters.
Londongirl,I meant for the big banks, the protected ones. There have been nationalizations in the US, and many banks have been taken over by the FDIC like Indymac and others. These were fairly big banks, but they were not the crucial big banks considered by the banking community to be too big to fail. Those banks are being given money by the treasuries of the countries and this is a theft. It isn't nationalization.
Misha the international banking community is a tight nit group. They have a Bilderberg Conference and the like. They communicate. They also planned off balance sheet banking. That was not the nature of things as you say.
Enron CEO's and officers were prosecuted for off balance sheet banking. You will notice that not one major bank CEO has been prosecuted for the exact same thing. It was made legal in the US based upon the Basel 2 framework. It was planned. It is proven it was planned.
And Misha, do you think that the CFR were and are not in the know? Then check out this quote:
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950
And: "Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite." Senator William Jenner, 1954
And: The case for government by elites is irrefutable." Senator William Fulbright, Former chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, stated at a 1963 symposium entitled: The Elite and the Electorate - Is Government by the People Possible?
New world order??? Wasnt there a European chap with a funny little moustache in the 40`s who had similar ideas about world order? I seem to remember it didnt pan out too well.
PGrundy, I don't buy in to a current antichrist. I think that has passed centuries ago. However, I believe that you don't have to have a one world physical government to have a one world global economic system. It could morph into that, but even if it doesn't nations give up their sovereignty to the international banks.
Here is the proof: Bernanke said that the US does not have the power and authority to nationalize Citibank. That means the bank is more powerful than the US government. That is an absolute capitulation to the international banking community who is in complete control. Even the AIG bailout went to pay off not only our protected banks but also the protected banks of Europe. They were made whole while taxpayers payed billions.
And Londongirl, taking shares in a bank is not nationalization either. It means that the government may get some return but real nationalization is a taking over of the bank, destroying the stockholder position, destroying part or all of the corporate bank bondholder position, then sending the bank back out into the private sector.
Big protected banks in Europe and America are stronger than the governments and are not permitted to be nationalized in that fashion. Northern Rock and Indymac were little mortgage banks in comparison to these multinational banks who are not subject to the sovereignty of nations.
That is the New World Order as it stands now. Will it work? Only time will tell. It isn't right, and it is stealing from the treasuries of the countries.
Again here is an article today that is proof of what I am saying. This is a must read: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ALL-BUSIN … 50712.html
The primary beneficiaries of these bond investments are the hedge funds and wealthy families who invest in the hedge funds. You must be a big money player to invest in a hedge fund. And the government is protecting you while destroying the wealth of the middle classes.
You will also note an article out today stating that Summers, chief advisor to Obama, was paid over 5 million dollars last year by a hedge fund. Trust me, they are in control of the world economy and their cronies are in the highest places of government. The cronyism of the Bush administration continues unscathed.
The hedge funds are highly leveraged. If a big money player invests a dollar, the hedge fund is levered 10 to 1. That means that the wealthy hedge fund investor is making a return of 65 percent on a 6.5 percent return as stated in the article. Now you see why there is so much at stake for the wealthy and that the rest can eat cake.
Just remember folks, the big banks are talking about buying each others toxic assets in the PPIP program. That means they buy each others assets and the US taxpayers are on the hook if the assets fail. The banks are off the hook, yet they have swapped the assets with each other!! Wake up America!
Pgrundy posted this on my hub "We Already Have One World Government":
"I see what you are saying here, and I think you are right. We don't fundamentally disagree. I only take exception to the conspiracy theorist tone of the phrase "New World Order," since I think what we have is the old world order of the Great Robber barons and old gashioned greed--it's just that the world is smaller now, so it's gone global. We'll have to fight to get our own back, but so far U.S. citizens show little taste for that. In France and England, the situation is already turing violent."
I responded that in one very real sense it is an old problem, private socialism, or fascism. It is the control of the government by the private banks. Now, it is new in this sense, it is global. It encompasses the US and Europe and the developing nations who rely on those countries for loans. So in one sense it is an old problem of fascism, and in on sense it is a New World Order because it is very global.
Even China is boxed into this system because they stand to lose their shirt if our dollar tanks.
One interesting new development. James Baker is on CNN right now and he is saying the bank corporate bondholders of the too-big-to-fail banks should take a bond haircut so that the taxpayer would not have to pay so much. This is a TEMPORARY nationalization, that is what I agree with.
As far as on Iraq and oil, I think James Baker is nuts, but on the banks he is correct.
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." — Thomas Jefferson
"If the American people ever allow the banks to control issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." — Thomas Jefferson
Initially posted by ColdWarBaby on one of Amanda Severn's hubs.
This is really an eerie prediction by Jefferson. It pretty much affirms that the revolutionary war was fought to rid the colonies of English banking. But the international scam bankers have still won the day. They are like leeches who hang on and don't ever let go.
And the tent cities are growing because of the Basel 2 off balance sheet banking scam.
Thomas Jefferson and the others were clever men. Separation of church and state; no private banks controlling the money supply; no standing armies. They will be turning in their graves.
Next step will be the return of 150,000 troops.
Gordon Brown thinks he can bring about a new world order like he's a big man, but so far his efforts as Prime Minister have been about as unimpressive as Tony Blair before him.
When Brown became Prime Minister he spouted the same new world order stuff, but we all know he's not in control of anything, he's just a bloated old guy who thinks he's a good politician and opening and closing his mouth like a sodding goldfish everytime he pauses to speak is about the only memorable thing he does!!
Waynet, the point is that all these leaders are anti sovereign, they are purposely weak, and they let the banks rule them.
The new world order is a submission of the sovereign nations to the god of international banking. So far it seems to be universally accepted.
Of course, the bankers can go without prosecution even though they scammed the middle classes with Basel 2 off balance banking, and Gordon Brown is doing exactly as he is told.
Lol, we don't have to worship the banks, but our leaders certainly do. It is hard for us to worship a god that steals continually from us!!
Here is a great article showing that Obama is wasting valuable time hiding the real condition of the big banks. Indeed the whole world is hiding the bad condition of our banks. If this is the New World Order we need to be very careful. It has been said that the big foreclosure wave starts again in May, 2009 with the alt a and option arm loans.
The bank bondholders should take a haircut, yet they are not being pushed. We have lost our sovereignty as a nation and we are doing nothing to fix this Japanese style lost decade.
The government is counting on a bounceback in house values. It isn't going to happen. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= … refer=home
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