Do you believe that the Illuminati and The New World Order are real? Are they

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   Michele Travisposted 12 years ago

   Do you believe  that the Illuminati and The New World Order are real?  Are they dangerous?
   
   What do you think would happen to our country if the Illuminati and the New World Order are real?
   
   

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   whowasposted 12 years ago

   Well, there are two questions there.
   
   To answer the first, do I think that the Illuminati and New World Order are real? the answer is, no.
   
   It would, for a certain kind of mindset, be comforting to think there were these fantasy-book baddies out there who are responsible for everything being a bit complicated and difficult - and that we can't do anything about it because they are soooo secret. But I think that it's a story for folk who can't quite cope and want an out on their proper responsibilities.
   
   On the second question, what would it be like if they were real? Well, I guess it would be just the same as it is now because if they are real, then this is how it is.
   
   Thanks for an amusing little thought break!

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      Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it very muchl

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      Greensleeves Hubsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      A very nicely thought out answer whowas. I agree totally.

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   markbennisposted 12 years ago

   Yes I do believe they are real, in fact I would say very real.  They are a very old secret society and order, who would count for the elitist of the elitist orders.  Are they dangerous?  Absolutely!

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      Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That is interesting,  many presidents have used the word New world order.

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      bn9900posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Like the one we have now?  He wants to create a new world order with him as King.

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      d.williamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      such comments about our current president are false and should be considered treason.  The new GOP is certainly on the road to total dominance starting with this country.  Make no mistake of this.

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      Efficient Adminposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I believe they are real and George Bush Sr. was the first president that I heard mention New World Order - he was all for it. Are they dangerous? In my opinion, look what is happening now in the US.

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      oceansiderposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Mark, I agree with you, they are very real and extremely dangerous!!!
      Helen

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      markbennisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      They don’t even hide it anymore as it’s in the public domain for all to read and learn. A good place to go for a heads up on all this is Alex Jones, he speaks it and gets away with it because he finds the actual documents to back up his rant!

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      Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Then what will happen if Mitt Romney becomes president.  He has a lot of money.  He might be able to 'purchase' the office of president.  Just wondering.

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      ii3rittlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      http://youtu.be/2k1tXh6meEg

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   WD Curry 111posted 12 years ago

   
   
   The Illuminati? New World Order? There is nothing new about the New World Order. Have you ever heard of Pax Romanus? The Roman Peace was due to the New World Order that Rome brought to the world. There are scads of various groups like the one you refer to as the Illuminati. Fraternities at any major university can be a ticket to the inside track. Look at Geithner and Bernake. Why do they negotiate with China as our representatives? It is not their job.

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      Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have not heard of that, but thank you for the information.

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   sparksterposted 12 years ago

   Oh they are definitely real... but they don't exist!  Shhhh!!
   
   Ok, seriously.  There definitely WAS an Illuminati in 1700's.  However, this is not the Illuminati which is commonly referred to today.  I believe the word 'Illuminati' has been associated to the 'black' governments of the world which are all interlinked that seem to be originating from US.  However, I believe this 'invisible' secret organization actually originated in Germany and set up factions within other country's governments.
   
   The word Illuminati is still used in Freemasonry today and that's why modern-day Illuminatiism has been linked to Freemasonry.  My father is actually a Freemason and has just reached the Order Of The Knights Templar degree.  Upon reaching this degree they gave him a book which explains how the Knights Templar are supposed to have evidence which proves that Jesus Christ did not die on the cross in the first place and that the Holy Grail actually refers to the bloodlines of Jesus.
   
   There is clearly a concerted effort in the world towards Globalization and this is perpetrated by the 'invisible' organization that we refer to as the Illuminati.  As for the music industry maybe we should take the words of Tupac Shakur seriously, he said that the Illuminati was very very real.
   
   Then there's the death of Michael Jackson - absolutely shrouded in mystery.  Just go to Youtube and listen to what his sister, Laytoya, had to say about it.

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      WD Curry 111posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The real Illuminati are (were) Italian (Rome).

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      Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I did see that video, that is why I thought about this question.

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   Khal Blogoposted 12 years ago

   I strongly suggest you read Jim Marrs' book: "Rule by Secrecy: the Hidden History That Connects the Trilateral Commision, the Freemasons and the Great Pyramids". It should answer most of your questions better than i could.

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      Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I think a lot of politicians and presidents have been in the illiminati. That is why people should vote. Voting has the most power in the world. Voting is more powerful then a super pac.  Voting is so powerful.

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      CJ Sledgehammerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Michele: The very fact that so many presidents and politicians have either been Illuminati or Freemasons should tell you that they are appointed...not elected. We have no democracy...only the illusion of democracy.

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      Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I think you are right,  that makes voting not powerful doesn't it?

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      oceansiderposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, voting is so important, and of course I will not be voting for Mr. Obama, but whomever is elected, whether Obama again or Romney is in....we need to ask for God's Will to be done in all things.

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   Lady_Eposted 12 years ago

   Illuminati do exist. They can make / break / write-off celebs. Actually have done, but many people are refusing to believe it. They are a powerful cult. I wish I could write more and post relevant videos that will give you goose pimples, but I'd just stop here for now.
   
   The truth always comes out in the end. You'll find it soon enough.

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      Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That is true, they killed a few who have told the truth haven't they?

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      markbennisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I agree and is very prevalent in the music industry, some music artist have paid a heavy price in speaking out about them, and some are still trying…

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      Man from Modestoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You are correct. In fact, they have performed their ritual ceremonies in the open, on live TV.

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   Civil War Bobposted 12 years ago

   Let's see...I believe they're real.
   They are no more or less dangerous than anyone else, given they seem to be a predicted necessity for the end of the world as the Bible calls it.
   Our country will join up with the NWO eventually, if not early on, just to facilitate the End of All Things (thanks, Frodo).

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      Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Then you understand what my question was about.

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      oceansiderposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, you're right Civil War Bob, I believe that too!
      Helen

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      Man from Modestoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Revelation says Satan will be given power. But, Haaman was also given power. In the end, he hung on his own gallows. God turns the plans of the wicked against them. I saw in a dream that the US branch will be removed by the black army they built.

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   Bard of Elyposted 12 years ago

   Well, actually after many years of studying conspiracy theories I have come to doubt in the existence of a modern group known as The Illuminati, although such an organisation set up by Adam Weishaupt did exist in the past.
   The phrase "The Illuminati" has become a label being used a lot by people such as David Icke to demonise various people with the only real shared characteristic is they are all very wealthy. So members of the Royal family, political leaders, banking family members, media moguls, owners of global corporations, and even some celebrities from the world of entertainment are said to be Illuminati. Icke goes further by claiming these people are actually alien Reptilian shape-shifters or are controlled by them. The evidence he offers is mainly hearsay and from very dubious sources.
   Members of secret societies and attendees of the Bilderberg meetings are also said to be Illuminati.
   The New World Order is claimed by conspiracy theorists to be what the Illuminati have been planning for a long time. It is said to be a totalitarian and Fascist one-world government with one police force/army, one electronic and digital currency, one religion and all the masses microchipped for identification and control purposes, while the elite who run it all would not be like this. Some people think we are already living in a New World Order. It is also like what was forecast for the future by authors like Aldous Huxley in Brave New World and George Orwell in 1984. HG Wells also wrote a book entitled The New World Order that was published in 1940.

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    Highvoltagewriterposted 12 years ago

    The best way for me to answer this is with a series of Hub I wrote on the subject...here is the link....http://highvoltagewriter.hubpages.com/hub/Luciferian-Doctrine-The-Iluminati-and-The-Free-Masons

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       CJ Sledgehammerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Been there, done that. Great hub, Highvoltage!!!

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       Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I looked at your hubs, they are very interesting.  I am going to read them.

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    CJ Sledgehammerposted 12 years ago

    Well, George Washington believed the Illuminati were real...and a threat.
    The Germans of Bavaria knew they were real...and exiled them from Bavaria.
    
    David Rockefeller believes the New World Order and the Illuminati are real, in fact, he claims to be one of their guiding lights and is proud of it.
    
    George H.W. Bush (41st U.S. President) spoke numerous times about progressing the New World Order.
    
    I think there should be little question as to the existence of these clandestine orders.
    
    So, are they dangerous? In general, when orders and societies remain secret, and they keep their membership and agenda secret...that is a sign that they are probably up to no good.

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       admwestposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I like the fact that you mentioned Rockefeller. You give a list of influential people that could have very well been associated with the Illuminati. Rockefeller makes me think of Napoleon Hill. I wonder if he had any association as well.

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       oceansiderposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Hi Mister C.J.,  you are right about being up to no good, but we need not fret, because God is in control, as you know my brother. God's many blessings to you C.J.,  Helen

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       Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Even Obama has talked about the New World Order.

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       Neil Sperlingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       there is a funny thing about those so called secret meetings they hold..... yes it is true only members can be included.... yet those same so called secret societies all open their doors to new members.... check them out from the inside for truth

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    admwestposted 12 years ago

    I think that it's very possible that they exist. I feel like anyone with a high net worth and high amount of intelligence could fit into that category. Provided that they have the ideals of changing the world in ways that their fellow human beings would consider to be wrong. Are they dangerous? .....I suppose time will tell.

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    d.williamposted 12 years ago

    we have a few big banks controlling the world finances.  Monsanto controlling our food supplies.  Wealthy individuals buying up all the water rights state by state.  The huge corporate entities controlling distribution of goods. and more....
    This is no longer just a conspiracy theory.  There is definitely a move toward one world order,  but i do not believe it will every happen in total.  Meaning, one world leader.  There are too many individual countries with powerful despotic dictators in control to give up their authority to one person.
    In today's world money controls all. The more wealth the more power yielded.

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    Neil Sperlingposted 12 years ago

    the Illuminati are real... but the conspiracy around them ushering in a "new world order" is completely bogus conspiracy.... that said there are far too few people controlling the majority of the worlds money and therein lies the real problem, or therein lies the real conspiracy. To much money in the hands of far too few people is the problem.
    
    The true Illuminati are spiritually directed..... or better said mystically directed! the true Illuminati are humanitarians and they are at work lifting mankind's consciousness.
    
    It is a very sad thing though - many of the world money controllers belong to some of the worlds so called secret societies. What it boils down to is there are good and bad in any and all organizations, political parties, groups and even religions have both good and bad.
    
    Mankind is on the verge of a new era - never before has the world seen so many educated and skilled people. The time is now for us to create a new system that takes the best from socialism, capitalism and democracy and create a BRAND NEW system that has never been thought of before. With the fact so many people are educated, skilled and trained, truly the time is now for a new system to be created.

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    Emmyboyposted 12 years ago

    I think it would be right to say that it exists because from what I have read about this secret group, their ultimate agenda is to have absolute control over the peoples minds.
    
    And as the days go on, you can easily start to see this control taking place gradually and of course, precisely and subtly calculated towards the complete eroding of peoples privacy and freedom.

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       Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       It is sort of what is happening now isn't it?

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    Gabriel Wilsonposted 12 years ago

    I believe they exist, although whether they are real or not; that I don't know. They are almost like a child's story; we all know the story but we all tell it a little differently. And many of us change the ending.
    I think the world is very old and any powerful organization has probably been around for a long, long time.
    Are the dangerous? Look what happened to three little pigs! The last one only survived because he watched the other two be eaten...  decided to spend more money and built a brick house...

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    Astra Nomikposted 12 years ago

    A lot of what we read in the news is planted and pre-meditated, though some of it is not. The so-called Arab Spring was influenced by foreign Govts, and the Bilderberg Groups do exist. The Illuminati was once set up and run by real people, but nowadays it can be whole groups of people who influence things behind closed doors.
    
    Some of the best news stories are the ones that never get to print.

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       Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       That is very true,  the media used to report the real news.  Ok  I am old, but I miss Walter Cronkite.

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    Steel Engineerposted 12 years ago

    There is no doubt they are dangerous. It is them who started public school. It is them who masterminded the overthrow of the French monarchy. After that, the new government immediately denounced Christianity. Just 6 days after the execution of Marie-Antionette, in 1793, they even went so far as to replace the Christian calendar.
    
    France later became the mother of the worst of the anti-God, anti-morality philosophers, who influenced Darwin.
    
    In movies and television, you will note that the year 1793 gets mentioned rather often. For example, in the blockbuster, "Highlander", the main character says, "1793 was a good year, a very good year".
    
    In the tv series "Psych", a matching pair of pearl handled pistols is used as a murder weapon. They were made in 1793.
    
    Yes, the Satanists (which the Illuminati are) also control television. You can find some nice compilations of Hollywood announcing this fact in the middle of movies and cartoons, esp. on YouTube.

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       oceansiderposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Steel Engineer, I believe that you are correct about many people that are associated with the Illuminati, that many follow Satanism

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       Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       And now they are starting to control us?

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       Man from Modestoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       The Illuminati are Satanists, yes. The want to set up a world system that yields maximum power to relatively few. For this purpose, Socialist and Communist governments are established. Look at history: Communism produces death, a work of Satan.

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    Mike Marksposted 12 years ago

    So is there an active organization huge and powerful with a particular agenda that goes by the name Illuminati?  We can only suspect and guess... is it reasonable to believe that there are societies that have maintained their existence for generations?  Yes.  Are their societies that have a vision for the world?  Yes.  Are some such societies powerful with money, arms and influence.  Yes.  So the question is to what degree of longevity might a society exist, and more importantly, how powerful can they be, and how in league with one another are they, and, maybe most important to this particular question, is there a single united society with ultimate power upon that stage?  What we can know are organizations like the Bilderbergs, and we can speculate from there.  Are such societies empowered by secret/hidden knowledge that matters?  Should we speculate on the Occult or the Cosmic as being part of these societies?  Certainly not before we speculate on the Occult and the Cosmic as a separate question.  Do we have bosses, and do bosses have bosses?  Yes.  Is there a top, a democratic board or a single leader?  Just how complicated is the world when seen from the top, is it managable by a single entity?  Does it see a big picture of the world as one community, and from there does it plot for the good of all or just for the good of itself?  Does a polluted environment answer that question, or are trials presented to us to help us strengthen and grow?  Are all such questions diverting us from what is right in front of us: dirty rivers.  Is laboring for our essential needs via acquiring essential money a necessity, or is money itself a conceptional illusion fed to those who would be serfs?  Is money real at the top?  At the top, is money essential for power, or is power more a product of organization and equipment?  At the top does one just give orders and they're carried out?  Is there a top?  Yes.  Is there a singular top?  Now there's our question... and how good could their agenda be considering the personality and so on qualities the top would need to possess in order to reach the top.
    
    Illuminati? "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

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       Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Or maybe the love of money is the root of all evil

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       Mike Marksposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Divide and Conquer is always the perfered method... money has the people competing with one another because one of money's qualities is scarcity... people too busy acquiring a buck can not unite and rise up against their oppressors...

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       Edwinoel Tanglaoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       There you go, the 'love of Mammon.'  But no matter how you look at it, is it not the 'love of God' that leads us to the truth to 'winning' in this life? 
       
       Has not the love of Mammon brought many to confusion? I pray that they may seek d light.

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    backporchstoriesposted 12 years ago

    If you are talking about the Free Mason, yes they are real.  What I think scares most of us is the secrecy that shrouds organizations as this.

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       Neil Sperlingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       they may be secret - yet any sincere seeker is welcome to join

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       Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Neil, if that is true, then how can you join them?

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       Neil Sperlingposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       some societies that fall under the umbrella title of Illuminati are
       Free Masons - Any "man" can seek to be a member- they do have a branch for women
       Thosphists, google for Madame Blavatsky
       Google AMORC or Rosicucians
       Bilderbergers R NOT Illuminati

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       Man from Modestoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       JFK was going to give a speech on secret societies and their secret agendas in Dallas the day he was murdered. Look for "JFK secret society speech" on youtube.

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    yeagerinvestmentsposted 12 years ago

    The New World Order comes from the Illuminati as the ultimate power grab by a group. This Order has been endorsed by the Rockefellars and Henry Kissinger. I doubt however they are involved in as many world events as many believe but I do believe they are the "person behind the curtains" for some.

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    Matthew Weeseposted 12 years ago

    They are sects that do exists, they are religious cults that have and will be around until the end of time, however, I believe they hold answers to a lot of religious questions, I also believe they are a group of people, human beings, that are no more significant than anyone else.

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       oceansiderposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Hi Matthew, I agree with you, because they are only people, like the rest of us, they do not hold any great significance, unless one gives them importance.  Only God is in complete control of every single thing, so we need not worry, just trust Jesus

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       Matthew Weeseposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       See I do not believe the biblical version of God/Jesus is all that true either, I believe that is more man made nonsense, a blind man can see that this planet we live on is very much alive, and very much in control.

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    vagabond mysticposted 12 years ago

    YES , I believe they are real . NO they are not dangerous unless you allow them manifestation . get with me and I will refer you to sights that will explain it better.
         
    
    
             ts_mr.safety@yahoo.com

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    Edwinoel Tanglaoposted 12 years ago

    I can see so many evil in this world and illuminati may just be one of them, inspired by money, power, wealth, and anything that may lead us away from the truth in Christ Jesus and onto eternal life.  It's spiritual warfare at best, made more clear as we open our hearts and spirit to the light of Christ.
    
    Continue living in Christ and staying focus in the power of his words make us stronger in faith, and by his grace, we may overcome what is evil.  By good deeds, making all material things in this world work for our faith and for our true Master in Jesus, then he may deliver us from evil and triumph over it.
    
    We may see the fangs of evil ready to pounce on anyone.  But as true Christians, we continue to be vigilant as we pray for the lost, confused and unenlightened, that they may see the light, while we put Christ at the center in everything that we do, and with him, we will never go wrong ever trusting and never doubting in his power over evil, over sin and death, for in him is the 'real' and true life, of true peace and joy, where one goes beyond 'self,' and live in the love of others, with forgiveness in his heart.
    
    As in Matthew 10:28, Jesus said, "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.  Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."
    
    Here in this life, do we not see and feel a taste of hell, where evil may reign as we allow it?  Is not life what we make of it?  When will you allow Christ to lead you to the truth?

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       oceansiderposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Edwinoel, well said!  Indeed, Jesus is in control, He is the only Truth, and as you quoted Matthew 10:28....yes we need to stand firm in that Truth!!!  God bless you, brother!

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       Mike Marksposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       some claim the Illuminati is in bed with the Catholic church.I'm not saying the Catholic Church & Jesus are the same thing.I'm saying Catholic Church may exploit peoples love for Jesus to further their own ends,therefore the Illuminati's ends.

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       Edwinoel Tanglaoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Amen, oceansider. Truly, believing in God's words we are set free.

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    TJenkins602posted 12 years ago

    I wouldn't be surprised if there was some secret cult manipulating things. To tell the truth, I'm noticing a lot of stuff happening in my life that is not making any sense at all. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that I'm actually targeted by Illuminati, New World Order, or any other kind of secret organization.
    
    Do I believe in them?
    
    Let's just say that I wouldn't rule out the possibility.

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    oceansiderposted 12 years ago

    They're real and very dangerous, Michele, but as a Christian I don't need to fret about anything like that or anything else, because I put all of my hope, my trust and my faith in Christ Jesus My God and Savior.  He is in control, He orchestrates everything according to His perfect Will!
    Thanks for the question....good one,   Helen

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    Brandon Tartposted 12 years ago

    Yeah, my dad is not only the Illuminati president, but he's also a client.  And as strange as that sounds, he really does consult with Illuminati members on a daily basis. 
    
    Yes, that was a joke that used the Hair Club For Men line...  but my dad told me about all of upper echelon members of the Illuminati, and he gave me names.  Trust me, I will never divulge them, but once I had the guts to go over to one of these men's house, and his wife was in total control of him.
    
    It was weird, because she seemed to have a hypnotic effect on him, and he did not care that I was there when she basically humiliated him.  She kept offering me drinks, and I shared some Cognac with them both.  They did not mind disclosing there global plan.  I left with a buzz, and an altered perception of reality.  Is the Illuminati real??? 
    
    Go knock on ten doors in your neighborhood, depending, and you'll be surprised to discover that they are actually quite up front if you ask...but when you leave, they say..."We're watching you, but know this... we already always have been." When she said this to me, she winked her left eye, and it winked from the outsides in!
    
    TRUE STORY!!!!

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       Brandon Tartposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I'm now sitting with my Illuminati neighbors: they're telling me that you should not believe in them. They want you all to know they exist, but they do not want you to know that you know, and that is their game. Parading before our eyes in dark.

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       Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you, I am laughing now

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    patriot2012posted 12 years ago

    I believe in my heart of hearts that there are secret organizations that have almost unlimited and corruptable power, and that these secret organizations are in control of politicians and the like. We must not be fooled into thinking that the American government or any government for that matter has our best interests at heart. The government keeps a lot from the public just to curb mass hysteria. I do believe that there was once a group called the Illuminati. Various legends and conspiracies surround this group. Before my eyes were opened, I would have never claimed myself to be a so-called "conspiracy theorist." However, the evidence is too strong to ignore the truth. The New World Order is REAL. All presidents want to have a "New World Order." Prophecy has started to unfold. Will it happen in my lifetime or yours? The answer still remains to be unseen, but a new world is coming.

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    Jaggedfrostposted 12 years ago

    The funny thing about this question is that if they exist, they are real and if they are real then they are dangerous.
    
    Anyone who knows for sure wouldn't say or would do their best to make one disbelieve the probability. 
    
    One can try to say from an armchair stand point that it is probable and even track singularities and quotes but not enough evidence to convince anyone.

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       IsadorasThoughtposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       We pay so much attention to words, trying to name things - as if they dont happen without names. All one big distraction from a simple task of connecting the dots.. Easy to get caught up in, too easy... "Anyone who knows for sure wouldn't say"

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    praisepluspurposeposted 12 years ago

    Yes, and yes they and they are dangerous

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    ii3rittlesposted 12 years ago

    No matter what you call them, yes they are real. They are the richest people of the world with the most power. But hey, I'm just some crazy person who thinks evil people exist.

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       Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       No, you are not crazy.  You are not the only one who believes this to be true.

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    Ramsa1posted 12 years ago

    They're real and are up to no good. These people would love to enslave us all while they live magnificent lives. However, I doubt that they will succeed because many have tried to do the very same thing and failed.

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    Vegas Eliasposted 12 years ago

    I have not met any member of the Illuminati. However I am personally certain that they exist because there are very many actions taken by world leaders which do not seem to  be supported by their own conscience; Like the holocaust in Germany, The invasion of Iraq by the U.S. etc. I feel there is an organization which is at the helm of all these major actions.

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       Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I agree with you, there seems to be no reason but they do it anyway.

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    rickyliceaposted 12 years ago

    No they're not real, they were real for a while, but they were crushed by the European monarchies.
    If they control everything, then why haven't they implemented their "evil" plans yet???
    The modern idea of the illuminati or new world order is a product produced by professional fearmongers like alex jones. Its sold mostly to religious people and radical leftists.
    
    What is real is Bilderberg, Council of Foreign Relations, all these foundations like the Rockefeller, Ford, Carnegie. While you guys are in lala land, these are the people that actually run things.
    For example did you know that the Ford Foundation basically invented the "Latino" race.
    Carnegie funds "pro-democracy" movements throughout the world.
    Lots of times "government" plans are actually created at these places.

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    Darrell Robertsposted 12 years ago

    I do believe that these groups of people are real.  I believe they have secrete and they influence events in the world that we are not aware.  This does not bother me because when you live in a world where 1 percent of the "elite" and wealthy control such a great portion of the resources, why be surprised and why worry.  As long as some people run around with these big egos there will always be the few who will try to control and conquer the world.  My goal is to be free of this world once I am gone, I want to make it to the spiritual world and just forget about this place.
    
    Best wishes.

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    Kayteposted 12 years ago

    They are real, however the country would still be the same as it is now because they do exist and there has not been any changes yet.

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