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What is wrong with this Judge?

  1. Reality Bytes profile image92
    Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago

    For those of you in the U.K., have you heard of this story?

    A teenage babysitter who raped a girl of five after watching online porn was spared jail by a judge who blamed the sickening crime on today’s society.

    Gareth Hawkesworth, who has been criticised in the past for going soft on perverts, refused to lock up the 14-year-old insisting his mind was corrupted by the vile images he had witnessed.

    Judge Hawkesworth told the boy, who appeared in the dock wearing his school uniform, he was satisfied he acted on impulse when he subjected the girl to a depraved sex act.

    He said: “I believe you have become sexualised by your exposure to and the corruption of pornography.

    “Your exposure at such a young age has ended in tragedy. It was the fault of the world and society.”

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/te … -5-1131884


    sat·is·fied/ˈsatisˌfīd/
    Adjective:   
    Contented; pleased.
    Synonyms:   
    content - contented - pleased - happy - glad


    I wonder what definition of the word "satisfied" is the Judge referring too?

    1. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I am not sure. This is fascinating. I am sure he will be hailed as a great humanitarian.

      1. Reality Bytes profile image92
        Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Same Judge:

        In February last year, Judge Hawkesworth gave Turon Ali, 26, a suspended sentence after he groomed a girl of 14 for sex, telling him he was “not a paedophile as such”.

        And he freed a pervert student as jail would “interfere with his studies”.

    2. Aficionada profile image90
      Aficionadaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      So, apparently, the enlightened thing to do would be to lock up, fine, and punish "the world and society"?  hmm

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        No. But it's alright to blame the "the world and society" for someone else's lack of self control. Completely absurd. hmm

        1. Aficionada profile image90
          Aficionadaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You did understand I was not making a recommendation, but rather pursuing the (il-) logical consequences of the judge's line of reasoning, right?

          In my opinion, the judge's ruling is the natural continuation of what young people, and everyone else really, have been taught for the past few decades: you can't help how you feel. The next step is to believe (obviously falsely) that if you can't help yourself in the way you feel, then you are not to blame for the way you act.  I totally disagree with that belief, and I also don't agree with the lie that we can't help the way we feel.

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Yes, but it still needed to be said. lol
            And to some point it would be true, but in others, it's just a lack of self control. It's pretty bad people don't understand that.
            Yes, obviously false.
            Good. smile

    3. Josak profile image62
      Josakposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      In cases where children are involved as the criminals it's always tough, I wouldn't want to have that judge's job, what would others here have done?

      As for the American supremacy bull that just reeks of ignorance.

      1. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        What does this above statement have to do with anything IN the post you replied to? I mean seriously. Damn. roll

  2. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 5 years ago

    And people think America is screwed up worse than their own country. lol

    1. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Oh hide and watch and shortly some of our colleagues here will likely come forth and blame America for this.

      1. gmwilliams profile image83
        gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        That imbecile of a judge is clearly unfit for his position.   He should be totally barred from practicing.   Also the perpetrator should be arrested and interned in a juvenile facility.   We have gone too soft!

        1. JSChams profile image61
          JSChamsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          This was in the UK.

          1. gmwilliams profile image83
            gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I know!  Western society has gone too soft!

      2. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        They can certainly try, but will only show their ignorance, considering America is younger than most developed countries and many aspect of America were taken from other Countries which were originally more developed than America.

        1. JSChams profile image61
          JSChamsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You're right. They do claim to be more civilized and enlightened. I wonder if this is what they referring to?

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Anyone claiming enlightenment is only hiding their agenda and nothing more than dishonesty in action. As for being civilized? Yeah, I get that a lot from people outside of America.
            I hope not. lol

  3. paradigmsearch profile image87
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    I wonder how the perpetrator's next victim will feel about the judge's philosophy...?

  4. Reality Bytes profile image92
    Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago

    Mother of four-year-old girl blasts judge who freed him because he had been corrupted by internet porn for 'cheap sentence'


    The mother of a four-year-old girl raped by a teenage babysitter has revealed the pain that has haunted her since the horrific ordeal.

    The woman said there are days when she 'can't stop crying' after discovering her daughter had been assaulted by the 14-year-old son of a family friend.

    And the father is tormented by feelings of guilt for allowing the toddler to be left in the clutches of the disturbed babysitter.   


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … z1zxla5fwa

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Hey Reality, you do realize that many people even those from the UK don't take the dailymail site seriously, right?

      1. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        It's difficult to when the judge in question retired almost a year ago 31 July 2011, surely it can't have taken the Daily Wail almost a year to dig up this story!

        1. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Hey John, I was only speaking about the many people I have talked to who live overseas and don't talk highly of the dailymail site. Past experience leads me to understand that they are and cannot be trusted.

        2. Reality Bytes profile image92
          Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          THIS is the innocent little girl of four whose porn-crazed teen rapist was LET OFF by a judge.   Last Updated: 05th July 2012

          As the child — who cannot be identified — played at home yesterday, her devastated mum hit out at the soft sentence.

          She called for the 14-year-old attacker to be caged and wept: “The sentence isn’t enough. He should be punished.”

          Judge Gareth Hawkesworth freed the boy at Cambridge Crown Court, blaming the “world and society” for corrupting him.

          http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne … irl-4.html

          It appears the story is less then a week old?

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Puzzling, perhaps the Hawkesworth family are serial judges?

      2. Reality Bytes profile image92
        Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        It is not the only news outlet reporting on the story.

        1. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I know it's not. My point was the source in which you used, isn't seen in good light. That's all I was pointing out. Nothing more, and nothing less. wink

          1. JSChams profile image61
            JSChamsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I quit using one source n=myself just because I was tired of the caterwauling. If it's a good legit story it will be all over Google.

          2. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Whilst climbing on their moral high horse and condemning pornography, they also promote it as well.

            Double standards?

            1. JSChams profile image61
              JSChamsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              The press certainly is different there.

            2. Cagsil profile image61
              Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              And that's for the citizens to deal with. hmm

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Trouble is most of them, the readers anyway, deal with it in the same way, baying for blood while "cor look at the knockers on her"

                1. Cagsil profile image61
                  Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  hmm

                2. JSChams profile image61
                  JSChamsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  That was what I meant John. It's a combination of real news and the Hooters menu. big_smile

  5. Reality Bytes profile image92
    Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago

    Some more info on the Judge, if this is all true, I cannot imagine the people not being outraged.

    http://chris-ukorg.org/lenient-judges/j … wkesworth/

    Perhaps the judge is a deviant himself!

    1. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You know as Cagsil and myself were discussing....these people are more enlightened, They think.

  6. Stacie L profile image88
    Stacie Lposted 5 years ago

    Well if the Judge really feels the teenage rapist is not at fault,he should allow him to babysit his own kids and grand kids.

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      lol lol lol Not happen, I'm sure. lol

 
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