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  1. JSChams profile image61
    JSChamsposted 5 years ago … heir-Lives

    Is anyone really surprised?
    My wife is a local public school teacher. These folks make two and a half times what she makes......with benefits. Is it really about the money?

    1. gmwilliams profile image85
      gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Sadly, it is.    Many teachers just are not passionate about teaching.   Oftentimes, they teach because they cannot get any other type of job commensurate with their education.    Even though there are good to excellent teachers out there, they are in the minority.   

      Many teachers view their jobs as wardens, particularly in the inner city schools.    Teaching at such schools is akin to entering a battlefield.   Many inner school children come from families where parents and relatives do not value education and parent participation.   It is them vs us.     Many of these inner city students have an adversarial relationship towards their teachers.

      In many urban schools, particularly in cities like Chicago and New York, teaching students can be quite arduous to say the least.     In the suburban and schools in affluent neighborhoods, teachers do not encounter such problems.   There, students are there to learn and there is a more positive relationship between the parent and teacher.   Both parties work together for the mutual benefit of the child.     My opinion, teachers who teach in urban schools, particularly in inner cities, need combat pay so to speak.   Such schools are not safe if you know what I mean!

    2. Josak profile image61
      Josakposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Nice to see you again JSC

      Firstly maybe you don't quite understand the meaning of solidarity, most Americans don't, it's a unifying agreement intended to be in concert with all working class people to defend their rights regardless of their particular denomination. I've even marched in solidarity back in my coal mining days with bikers and strict conservatives for safer conditions even though we agree on very little. We don't have to agree with each other entirely just on the particular issue.

      As for socialist teachers a recent BBC poll found just under 20% of Americans believe: "capitalism is fatally flawed and a different system is required" and apparently that proportion is significantly higher amongst educated people which teachers are so it's entirely unsurprising that a fair portion of teachers would be socialist... nothing wrong with that unless you re suggesting people should be discriminated against for their personal political beliefs.

      As for Chicago teachers when cost of living for their area and benefits are taken into account they are paid well under the country teacher average and due to recent policy change they will now be required to work more hours a week (I believe it's 8 more hours a week but don't quote me) which makes a pay raise pretty reasonable.

      1. JSChams profile image61
        JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Wondered where you been hiding. You Ok?

        1. Josak profile image61
          Josakposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah fine, just busy and I had a ban for a while too.

          1. JSChams profile image61
            JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            You got to be careful. I was afraid it was something like that.

  2. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    "Lipman credits Arne Duncan with driving this corporatization of Chicago’s public schools. Duncan, President Obama’s secretary of education, was the chief executive officer of the Chicago Public Schools, where he led the institution of charter schools, 90 percent of which are nonunion. “Arne Duncan pushed through this agenda of closing neighborhood schools, turning them over to private operators or expanding charter schools and having charter schools come in ... and increasingly putting more pressure on teachers to respond to high-stakes tests. That agenda has been really devastating in Chicago.”"

    1. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I think they are compensated well enough for the inconvenience of actually having to educate.

      1. Wayne Brown profile image83
        Wayne Brownposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Good pay comes with high expectations...its that simple.  If the heat is too high, then I would suggest getting out of kitchen and finding work in other fields, especially in the field of education or medicine.  ~WB

        1. JSChams profile image61
          JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          If there was a reason other than the concept they have to PRODUCE RESULTS???????????
          I wish my wife got paid what they get paid. She has to perform lot's of testing as well.

  3. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    The media loves to play the rich against the poor teachers, and say nothing ever about the real issues.
    "A central issue in the struggle of Chicago teachers is the plan by the city, backed by the Obama administration, to dismantle large sections of the school district, closing dozens of public schools and opening new privately-operated charter schools."

    1. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this never really hear that part over the hub-bub do you?

  4. carterchas profile image70
    carterchasposted 5 years ago

    What a buncTh of &^%#.  That is a work of someone's imagination.  You might be able to find a small number of teachers who would agree with that; declaring that is there purpose is a lie.  The "socialist" label is an old anti-union trick.  Get Real.

    1. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Well. these teachers in this video aren't in Chicago but I will let you decide for yourself about their leanings. … plpp_video