Habee got the jump on the debate last time. This time, it's my turn.
I predict that Obama is going to end up with 4 minutes more speaking time. Liberals will complain that Romney was rude, interrupted Obama, and bullied the moderator. Conservatives will complain that the moderator is biased, and that Obama avoided speaking about his record.
Someone will accidentally make an obscene gesture, possibly something like Romney taking off his shoe and stuffing his sock in Obama's mouth so he can catch up on speaking time.
Romney will say "I'm going to crack down on China", Obama will say "Osama bin Laden is dead".
CNN will say the debate was a tie, FOX will say Romney won by 5%, and MSNBC will say Obama won by 24%.
Nothing will change, we will all argue about word choice for a couple of days.
Jax We may not agree on politics, but I love you sense of humor! A very smart man recently told me that he would never want me to change (he is conservative) my opinions, because a strong left and a strong right make eachother and the country better I think he is correct.
So, now you don't need to watch the debate, you're all caught up.
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If you are voting for Obama... I"M NOT YOUR BUDDY.
If you are voting for Romney... THANK YOU! WE RULE!
If you are voting for Johnson... Obama thanks you for your vote...
Don't forget Stein seems she will be getting some votes this year too. But hey at least we can be buddies since I am not voting Obama
If you are voting for either Romney or Obama . . . the police-state thanks you for your vote!
I'll only vote for someone who doesn't have a chance of winning if:
A: I live in a non-swing state.
B: I agree more with the person who can't win than either of the people who can.
In this case, neither of those apply.
So you agree with the police state, why didn't you just say that?
Because that's not what I meant, so that's not what I said.
At this point in time, the economy trumps the existing civil liberty concerns we are facing, and Romney is much better suited to fix the economy.
So more manufacturing jobs will go overseas! Sounds like you have a plan!lol Sorry, Romney will lead us, not to the next recession, but in my opinion the next Great Depression! All my family and friends are going with the POTUS. Romney/Ryan approach to womans rights, medicare vouchers, healthcare, reluctance to tax the wealthy, no job creation plan in detail, and his 47% comments sold us!
Both the economy and the civil liberties issues have a sole cause: big government. Big government is exactly what Romney is promoting.
He's also promoting BIG business at the expense of the worker.
So is Obama - he only postures to be for the working class. In reality he is as much a puppet of Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan as Romney is.
I totally agree with you. Most of the people on this platform republicans and democrats live in denial of the reality!
Difference is, one I've watched for 4 years and i have an inkling as to what he may do. Romney on the other hand scares me. Hes all over the place.
I have an inkling that Obama is going to continue the globalist, police-state agenda of massive government, militarism and erosion of civil liberties. Almost anything would be better than that, until Romney came along. So why pledge your support to either?
At some point we have to admit that we're in a rigged game and it's not worth playing anymore. Time to focus on actual human action: local initiatives and cooperation, self-sufficiency and peaceful non-compliance.
Voting either Democract or Republican is a display of compliance to the powers that be.
Time to focus on actual human action: local initiatives and cooperation, self-sufficiency and peaceful non-compliance
Innersmiff, you sound a bit like Gandhi.
I addressed this in the thread 'Why I don't support Johnson'.
It's not about what got us here, it's about making our situation better tomorrow.
Jaxson, I agree. Problem is, career politicians. Also the age of some of our representatives. I believe many are seeing fixes to todays problems with yester a years approaches. What worked then, problably won't work today, given the technology of today.
I'm voting for Romney, along with the rest of my extended family - except for two wayward members. lol
Aside from having your numbers reversed, I agree with Habee that you nailed it, BUDDY.
Fox will declare Romney the winner by 24% and MSNBC will declare Obama the winner by 5%.
Romney will repeat his Day One plan to declare China a currency manipulator.
But Limbaugh is already calling Obama a "moderator manipulator."
Obama's already given his spoiler alert on Bin Laden at last night's Al Smith dinner.
It would be great if they can get past Libya and China in this debate. I mean, there are a few other countries in the world.
The moderator will introduce the candidates, Welcoming President Barrack Obama and Governor Willard Romney. Romney will immediately attack the moderator saying, my name isn't Willard! My name is Mitt! The moderator will ask proof of this from Willard, asking him to provide his birth certificate. When unable to dispute the moderator, Willard will stomp back to his chair, visibly shaken!
I'll have to remember this thread is here after Obama whoops Romney tomorrow .
I'm responding so this thread will jump up to the beginning to remind people this thread exists.
Also, I'm interested in hearing what the candidates leave out, such as indefinite detention and torture.
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/debate … ?hpt=po_t1
Watch live at CNN
A debate of agreeing with the POTUS. Call it anyway you want, but Romney backed down and agreed, or simply doesn't have a working knowledge of foreign policy to offer any different plan.
Movingout . . . or moving on? Romney did very well, Obama looked to the moderater with the intensely "begging eyes" for help so often it was sad, he wanted that liberal dude to help him, but Schaefer was not a Crowley, and he did not fold -- kudos to him!
Romeny reminded me of Gumby. He twisted and turned yet again. Difference this time is he agreed with the majority of the POTUS foreign policies. Romney looked scared and close lipped, afraid he would say the wrong thing. He showed his lack of knowledge of foreign affairs. Sorry, but I can see we will agree to disagree!
Romney easily out maneuvered the President and was much more diplomatic. In agreeing with some of the president’s polices, or more rightly goals (which are not much more than common sense and policies that have been in place for decades,) however he rightly criticized the methods of implementation or lack thereof.
Romney’s biggest Hammer, “We do not dictate to other nations we liberate them.” Obama was left with his mouth hanging open
lmao...you had it right the first time. He agreed with some (actually most) of the POTUS policies. Romney scares the daylights out of me!
movingout, Did you notice that they sort of switched roles from the first debate...Obama was the clear winner, but I will say he should know more, he has been POTUS, and Romney did pretty good, because we all know he doesn't know much about foriegn policy...
Scared you? wow!! The POTUS scares me, he looked intensely needy for the moderator to help him out of his smug scared face pasted on, must have been hard to hold that facial pose, but of course he has been practicing!!
@Kflippin....lol, If the POTUS needed the moderator, Romney needed a foreign affairs expert to answer the questions for him. lol He looked completely out of his element. One where Romney is in total control and people bow to him as a business guru!
I did notice! Romney sounded like a parrot who rehearsed speaking points told to him during "debate training". He went from far right to maybe if I agree with the POTUS more people will vote for me.
Romney seemed to agree with Obama a lot. It's weird considering Romney also called him weak.
Weak on some things, not weak on others.
Is it really a bad thing to say your opponent has done some things right?
In all seriousness, that is more or less what cost Kerry the election in 04....at least that was the perception.
Fox polling has Obama way ahead in winning the third debate.
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/22/vo … al-debate/
Come on Josak, those internet polls mean nothing. Large partisan communities will target those polls. You can watch them swing drastically as a few hundred, or even a couple thousand people all come on to vote one side in a short time-frame. It's funny to watch, you can find the forums that do this, and they feel like they are somehow making a difference, when internet polls have a margin of error of ~101%.
If you can find any proof a demographic is targeting then it's a valid rejection, otherwise and judging from the comments it seems to be genuine. Fox has a certain crowd hang around it anyway and it's not liberal.
Lol, ok. Go ahead and use an automatic poll that is not controlled for any factors, can be spoofed, spammed, and hacked, and gives absolutely no demographic information.
By the way...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/2 … te-w-Links
Just two examples. Seriously, internet polls are worthless. Someone with a network of bots(you would be surprised) could force them all to spam a poll. One person could easily cast hundreds of thousands of votes.
And before you say 'You're just being a sore loser', I haven't used ANY internet polls, from any of the debates. They are stupid.
Nope. But if it undermines your fundamental claims to being "different" it is an issue.
Jaxson -We can be buddies even if we support different candidates. You can recognise that a person has integrity even if they are currently or even permanently supporting the wrong views or the wrong candidate.
It is the people who do not have integrity or intellectual clarity that are the real problem.
Congratulations on your hub by the way!
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