Why is the Obama Admin. treating the American veterans poorly ?

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   ahorsebackposted 11 years ago

   At last count there are between 600, 000  and 800,000 disabled , or awiting disability benifits ,Iraq and Afghan verterans waiting up to two years or longer  for approval for VA. benifits ?  More veterans are commiting suicide  than are being killed in Action !  In five years time the waiting list has increased by 2,ooo  percent ?    That my friends is absolutely akin to treasonous on this and HIS  administrations part !
   Let me hear anyone justify this !  The World  media is absolutely out of touch with accountability in reporting against this administrations atrocious failures .

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      Bill Yovinoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Questions to ask yourself before pointing fingers.
      
      1. Who put them in harms way?
      2. Who did the most to cut their benefits?
      
      Incidentally, the answers to #1 and #2 are the same.
      
      http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17117430/#.UUjRNKAxPm4

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         Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Well, if the Bush administration caused the cuts, what has this administration done to correct the problem?  Up to this point they seem to have no fear when it comes to spending money.
         It is a serious problem that needs to be fixed.

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         ahorsebackposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Bill , its time to let the Bush fault Line go isn't it ! Your guys been there for FIVE , count them IIIII  years ! one .two three , are you there?  , four  five !

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            BuckyGoldsteinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Actually only a little over 4 but still time to do something.

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            Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            This administration will be blaming Bush until most of us are dead and gone.  They absolutely refuse to recognize our almost 17 Trillion debt as an issue even though they can't blame that on Bush.

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               BuckyGoldsteinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Oh but they have tried to blame it on Bush and with the very low information voters that is all they have to do.

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         BuckyGoldsteinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Is that your answer as to why this administration does nothing...its Bush's fault?

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         tirelesstravelerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I believe that was almost 5 years ago. Its time for the current democratic senate and executive to do something.

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         Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Why don't you call the Senate , Congress and the White House to ask them to change it if you think that's why?
         
         Why? Why would you do that when you can keep the blame Bush thing going?
         But that's the best way to serve our veterans isn't it? Blame George Bush.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      He is not, the Obama administration has spent the most on veterans affairs of any president, more people have been hired, records have finally been computerized (and the process for computer processing is to be completed by 2015) and the Obama Administration has radically increased the number of application offices, unfortunately in the changeover period from the old system to the computerized system there has been ad division of labor that has resulted in a backlog.
      
      I am fully with you more Veterans care is an excellent idea, indeed Obama worked hard to exempt veterans services from the sequester. The system needs more employees to handle the backlog until the system is computerized, unfortunately that requires funds that are all but impossible to get past Congress.

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         Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Josak,
         We all know that sequestration was intended to be a painful as possible, and cuts were selected for issues that would cause the most pain.  I'm not sure who made these decisions, but Obama would certainly have input and the power to exclude certain cuts.  Robo Squirrel is still getting funded, but veterans suffer?  Air traffic controllers get cut even while they are recruiting for new employees?   Take the blinders off Josak, it is not that difficult to see through the smoke screen surrounding sequestration.

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            Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            As noted Obama already passed legislation so that the sequester will not affect veterans.

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               Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Good, was that a part of all his hard work you mentioned?  We all know that the areas selected to cut were hand picked to prove a point and make us come to our senses about increased taxes and runaway spending.  Sequestration was Obama's idea, and then he tried to blame it on others.  Josak, a school child could see through this sequestration farce yet many adults can't figure it out?  You just proved Obama can pick and choose what he wants to cut.

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                  Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  He needs congressional approval to do so, republicans did not oppose that measure (bad for business that is) unfortunately not so with a lot of the other stuff, since compromise could not be reached both sides got cuts they did not want.
                  
                  Sequestration is the result of "fiscal responsibility" a central ideology of the Republican party in contrast to stimulus recovery favored by Democrats so it's pretty funny to suggest that a measure passed by a Republican congress on Republican ideals is some how Obama's fault. What is really happening is conservatives want cuts, refused to prevent the cuts then attempted to pass on the responsibility for the inevitable consequences of their ideology.

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                     Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Josak, get real on this for once.  If we have to cut our household spending we use common sense in the selection process.  Can you honestly tell us that common sense prevailed in selecting where cuts were applied?
                     Are you saying you are opposed to "fiscal responsibility?"  It doesn't look like the "stimulus recovery" is working all that well.
                     I am trying to point out that this whole sequestration idea is nothing more than a political game, and all of us are the losers.  By the time they get finished with the game, they want us begging to pay higher taxes and insisting they spend more money that we don't have.
                     Why is it so hard for so many to see how this was intended to work?

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                        Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Fiscal responsibility in the ideological sense has never worked in this nation (nor indeed anywhere else it is currently failing hard in Europe), Reagan, Clinton etc, have all used stimulus growth and it is indeed working, while Bush crushed our economy we just had our best month in the retail sector in American history.
                        
                        No political division decided where the cuts were applied and failure to properly compromise.
                        
                        Sure it's partly politics but that is what happens in two party systems.

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         Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Sequester?
         
         You are actually going to play THAT card? Like Harry Reid???????????
         
         I better quit before i get banned...........

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      getitriteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I would like to agree with your assessment, but as an honorably discharged veteran, I can't complain about my treatment during this administration...so far.  In fact, in my situation, I have seen a remarkable improvement.  In 2005 I had to wait forever to book an appointment at the VA Hospital, but lately I have seen a radical change in protocol.  Over the past three years I have received the most comprehensive care that I have witnessed since my discharge, over ten years ago.  I can call the VA, to set an appointment, and can rest assured that I will be seen within a very reasonable time frame.  And the payment is amazing.  It's on a scale, so I pay very little.  If not for the VA I would have NO health care.

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      Sarra Garrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It's because Obama stated that since this is an all voluntary military they get what they deserve.  There should be no help in any way to the veterans because they knew what they were getting into when they joined.  Obama is an A$$ and all Presidents should have military training prior to be elected.  Not to mention that all Presidents should be Americans.  Yes, this is what he said and as a disabled veteran myself this just sucks!  Even the doctors at the VA don't want to help the veterans it's a terrible place to go for any medical help.

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         getitriteposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         When did he make such a statement?  This just seems simply not factual, or you have taken a statement completely out of context.
         
          
         
         Could you provide a link, so that we can corroborate your accusations?  Thanks.
         
         
         
         Maybe it's your state.  In my state, the VA is doing, at least, a satisfactory  job.

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      Becky Katzposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know why it takes my husband five months to get an appointment when he tells them chest pains. I don't know why it takes two months to get an appointment when he has to change a mental health appointment. He is a disabled Vietnam Vet that had to fight for 17 years to get disability. He expects it from our government. They have been documented as passing the word to delay until they all die or commit suicide so that they won't have to pay them any disability. What more can we expect from our government?

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         wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Mostly because the VA is basically socialized medicine.  Health care run by the government.  Precursor to Obamacare.

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            Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            B I N G O !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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               Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Obviously then we should not have V.A. Benefits right? Amazing, pretend to care about veterans then immediately leave them out in the cold with their health problems.
               
               It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

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                  Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  No...it describes what is wrong with it.
                  Just as various people have done with their experiences here.
                  Our veterans deserve better than that. In fact they deserve better than the health care Congress receives.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 11 years ago

   Not Bush's fault... Congress's fault.

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      BuckyGoldsteinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You seem to be under the mistaken impression that this President and his administration are powerless and all control is held in the House of Representatives.
      
      I only wish that were true.

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   ahorsebackposted 11 years ago

   Uninvited , thats true too ! Yet we can't fire them all ? Whats with that !

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      Petra Vlahposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      We can't fire them all, but we should!
      At any rate, the problem of the ways veterans have been treated (or mistreated) is a shameful act of indifference that dates back to the Vietnam war and is still going on today with the same disregard for their sacrifice

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   ahorsebackposted 11 years ago

   I agree Petra , one thousand percent , If four years can't change enough for an administration . then maybe it should be One six year term ! Who knows ! But somethings got to give .  Veterans have always suffered  from an intentional  lack of care !   And as I too am guilty of an over agressive  patriotism , and ask as much as anyone of thier sacrifice ,  I have for years been writing letters and editorials  for Vets , locally in city and state papers !  I am truely ashamed of America's worst oversight ! Veteran care !

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   junkoposted 11 years ago

   The lack of Tax REVENUES or a Creditcard for the Obama Presidency is being felt by many Federal Gvt programs and State Gvt programs. The economy and people suffer without tax collection, but Capitalism does good without regulations and taxes.

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   ahorsebackposted 11 years ago

   Josak Actually , your wrong about how much Obama has do to "change " the way veterans are cared for , Yes he passed an order for 1,300 new shrinks for treatment of PTDS , more staff and doctors  ,  and something less than  10 percent have actually been hired , He ordered ,or bush did , the computerization of records , less than ten percent of which is done ,  The hospital hallways , closets and storage rooms are full of paper records everywhere !  Veterans are waiting up to eight months for appointments for anything ,  Va hospital buildings  everywhere are falling into shambles ! More vets and  soldiers are commiting suicide than are being killed each year in battle  !   This is the most anti- veteran president in our modern history .

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