Was the Democratic Debate Another Win for Hillary?

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   rhamsonposted 8 years ago

   The pundits are praising Hillary for her cool under fire appearance at the Democratic Debate last night. The question has to be has she finally rehabilitated her trust issue with all the controversy as Secretary of State? Or is she just moving on ignoring the problem until it goes away? And what about her answer to reeling in Wall Street. Play nice?

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      Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, she was in grand style at the debates last night, but in regards to reining into the outrage of Wall Street and money changers, she has yet to 'get over that wall'. Bernie and those on her left flank may force her to taken a more firm stance in this direction. Just as she recently changed her views regarding the Asian trade pact, she will probably start the drift leftward if she hopes to put out 'the Bern'.
      
      While, I prefer Warren or even Sanders, I will take Hillary Clinton over a Bush, Rubio, Cruz, Trump, Huckebee or Carson, anyday.

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         PrettyPantherposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         This debate was a display of intelligence, poise, civility, and passion, with discussion of issues that actually matter:  income inequality, climate change, corporate corruption.  Such a contrast from the hostile and low-brow Republican debates.

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            Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            You can say that again!

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   PrettyPantherposted 8 years ago

   The pundits are praising Hillary and even declaring her the winner, while every poll I've looked at shows Bernie Sanders won.  Some even show Jim Webb in second place behind Bernie.  These are, admittedly, unscientific online polls.
   
   Hillary was polished, prepared, and commanding.  Bernie was passionate and authentic, also prepared, but less polished. 
   
   The corporate media is doing their job in promoting the corporate candidate.  That's how I see it.

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      Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That is the appeal of Bernie Sanders, shaking off the image of the 'polished politician'. I was impressed with how he took Secretary Clinton's side in regard to the e-mail controversy. A gracious man in search of answers and solutions taking advantage of all resources toward that end, even putting himself at a tactical disadvantage. But strategically, he becomes the adult in the room and continues to earn my respect.

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         rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I don't believe in all that Bernie supports but as far as a Democratic candidate in the race I am leaning more towards him and would love to see him debate Trump. It could be billed as the fact against fiction debate of the century. Oh I forgot Trump has an answer for everything but we are not smart enough to hear it.

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            Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I would like to see that debate too, but as you pointed out, the corporate controlled media cannot afford to have their man Trump in a position where his 'slip is showing' to a national audience.

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            GA Andersonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, that would be a debate worth watching.
            
            GA

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      rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "The corporate media is doing their job in promoting the corporate candidate.  That's how I see it."
      
      I am glad someone else saw it that way too. Webb kept making the point about the time allotted to Hillary and Bernie but little was done to even the score.
      
      I am in Maryland and O'Malley is affectionately know around here as a man who did not meet a tax he did not love. But his direct statement to Hillary about Glass/Steagall being reinstated showed where Hillary's priorities are still rooted. She will not undo what Bill did to the act by repealing it. Instead she wants to leave it up to Wall Street to fix it themselves. For this reason I will just about vote for anybody but her for President.

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   Alternative Primeposted 8 years ago

   It was a Monumental VICTORY for Hillary, Bernie, Progressive Democrats & Democratic Socialists ~
   
   What a Breath of Fresh New AIR and What a Profound CONTRAST between Democrats & the Defunct Republican Party ~
   
   While Radical Conservative Republican Candidates are in a Mighty Struggle to emerge as the most OFFENSIVE Individual who if elected, will Deport Un-Documented Immigrants Hispanics Asians etc, Terminate Social Security & Medicare, Obstruct Women's Freedom, Oppose Wage Increases for Our Working Class, Repeal & Take Away Health Insurance from Millions of Americans, IGNORE Climate Change etc., Progressives will continue to FIGHT for these Core VALUES ~

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      rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You really haven't a clue do you? Your precious Hillary in as much said she will do nothing substantial about Wall Street and the greed. What is even more disconcerting is that she waltz's around these controversies like it is business as usual. And even more disturbing is the mainstream medias anointing of her. She has a long trail of bad decisions and scapegoats she has blamed that we all like to forget. Raymond Maxwell, Vince Foster etc. were victims of the Clinton legacy of blaming others for their failings.
      
      Even though Bernie is a long time Washington insider I like much of what he says. I don't like the unfunded give aways. Remember he even said it himself last night. Without a big voter turn out and at least one of the Congressional bodies going Democrat, his fight will be all that much harder.

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         Alternative Primeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Everything I've articulated in my previous comment is Factual, anyone who wishes can research and verify ~
         
         I have much MORE than a CLUE rhamson primarily due to the FACT that I Disregard and IGNORE Nonsensical Republican Propaganda Outlets like "Fox Snooze" in favor of exploring what everyone reading this should, Voting Records & Overall Party VALUES ~
         
         Why don't you and Kathryn just Admit and Accept what the conservative PLAN actually is instead of closing your eyes and trying to make it Magically DISAPEAR or Morph into something Normal?
         
         The FACTS are Crystal Clear as previously articulated in my prior comment, you can whine and cry all you want but these FACTS remain the same ~ Either change political affiliation or deal with the insanity of what you're loyal to ~

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            rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            "I Disregard and IGNORE" is the most factual thing you said in your last rant. You still haven't a clue. All information is valuable if only to glean a smidgen of truth presented and hidden to help you understand all avenues of the story. The same media you disregard and ignore as well as the media you trust served us up the Iraq war on a shingle. Our government is bought and paid for by those who you believe to be telling you the things by which you base your understandings. Cutting off half of what you listen too or read only makes you half informed and of that information who can tell how much is manipulated for you to follow their lead. You should read "Bias" by Bernie Goldberg. He goes through the many process' that news is presented and ignored. Maybe you will relate to the ignored part better.

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      We, the people of the United States, do not stand for a social democracy in any way, shape or form. You will find that out sooner or later.
      Talk about Pretend Land!

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         Alternative Primeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Bernie & Hillary are not that distant from each other in Policy and Values ~ They both understand the "Sense of Urgency" in which we as a collective people, in order to create a more PERFECT Union, must begin a "Massive Wealth Shift" by transfering OUR Fortunes from the Abusers, Criminals, Fraudsters, & Greed Driven Individuals on Wall Street who sit comfortably in Gold Plated Corporate Chairs, to "We the People" where it righfully belongs ~

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            rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Then why won't Hillary or should I say Billary commit to reinstating the Glass/Steagall act if she is about changing the Wall Street greed?

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            wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Must be nice to claim that what others earned actually belongs to you, and do it with a straight face.  Convenient, too!

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