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   gmwilliamsposted 22 months ago

   
   President Obama, YOUR THOUGHTS!

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      Credence2posted 22 months ago in reply to this

      I support Barack Obama and continue to support him as the best among the choices that were made available for me during the 2008 and 2012 contests.

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         rhamsonposted 22 months ago in reply to this

         Unfortunately I agree with you. I am disappointed with his TPP agreement and the Iran nuclear deal but he was the best choice at the time.

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            Credence2posted 22 months ago in reply to this

            I did not care for the TPP, but the Iran nuclear deal was smart diplomacy in my opinion.

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               rhamsonposted 22 months ago in reply to this

               You may be right about the diplomacy but we got very little for the concessions we made. The other problem is the honor system it relies on.

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                  Credence2posted 22 months ago in reply to this

                  But what was the alternative? I am certainly not willing to go to war over Iran, Israel is the only nuclear power in the area. I am paying more attention to her.
                  
                  The status quo was not working, contrary to what you say I have read that much was accomplished with the agreement as opposed to the situation prior to its implementation.

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                     rhamsonposted 22 months ago in reply to this

                     I think we should just get the hell out of there entirely. Leave a battalion or two in Saudi Arabia until we can get away from the petro dollar. Yankee go home is all I have heard over there so lets do it.

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                        Credence2posted 22 months ago in reply to this

                        That is a horse of a different color, I understand that. It has been that the most loudly heard arguments against Obama's arrangement is that is was not hawkish enough toward Iran, and that we should take the cue from Netanyahu and bomb Iran into submission. From the other side, the only ultimate solution was war.

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                           rhamsonposted 22 months ago in reply to this

                           This is a war of Chieftains and Mullahs so let them eat each other up. Rouhani wants an apology from the US now [1]. This is a pissing contest and the further we participate the deeper we get into trouble with it.
                           
                           [1] http://news.yahoo.com/rouhani-says-u-ir … 23720.html

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                              GA Andersonposted 22 months ago in reply to this

                              "...so let them eat each other up."
                              
                              As each chieftain or Mullah eats up another they get stronger. Then they reach a point as powerful as ISIS appears to be now. As each gets stronger they also get richer, billions richer.
                              
                              Then they get strong enough to take over a country... a la Syria. Now they are strong enough to influence a continental region. Along with instant communications, global air travel, WMD black market opportunities, etc. etc.
                              
                              ... and we wait. Secure behind our ocean buffers. Letting the world go to hell because it ain't our business. Right?
                              
                              We very definitely have national security interests involved in the problems of the Middle East. History has shown us the potential danger of Isolationism. I don't think we can afford to sit back and let them eat each other up.
                              
                              GA

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