Morning after pill made available for minors.

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   Mishaposted 15 years ago

   K, Sandy, question or two, you don't need to answer, you better just ponder a while for yourself how our friend Mo would have put it
   
   1. Why out of thousands if not millions of drugs approved by FDA that have severe side effects if abused (and basically every single drug does) you picked this particular one for your rant?
   
   2. Why do you care THAT much about restricting the choice of a random teen that you never met and never ever will meet in your life?

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   waynetposted 15 years ago

   This is great! when minors are down mining in the dark, who knows what could happen down there, so the morning after pill would work a treat!!

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   Colebabieposted 15 years ago

   What about a man getting respect from a woman for having one partner? Such a double standard.

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      Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It's not a double standard.  Women should expect the same from their man.

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         countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Sir- I personally try to expect more from myself and accept others as they are. I usually find myself being more liberal with my own short comings but strict with others (when in reality we have little or no control over others experiences/ views and can only influence ourself to a certain extent).
         
         Coming to the double standards I usually don't like to chastise Indians in a open public forum like this but I feel some Indian men even if they have had previous premarital experiences prefer there wife to be "pure" for them. I just searched if I could find any links but just found this article which you can checkout: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti … stry-1.cms

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   earnestshubposted 15 years ago

   It is pretty obvious that colebabie knows this subject well. I for one listen when it is obvious that someone has a broad and deep understanding of a subject.I feel that she has made a pretty good case for keeping as many options open as possible for our teenagers .

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      Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Completely agree here, .  Great presentation, Cole.

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   Colebabieposted 15 years ago

   Thank you earnest. I really appreciate that. I don't babble on if I don't know the subject well. If it's something that I know, I say my part.

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   calebdposted 15 years ago

   This is bad how exactly? How is availability of the morning after pill giving license to parents to be bad parents? I'd argue that bad parents are bad parents, regardless of availability of options like plan b. If nothing else, at least it helps to make up for inadequate parenting.
   
   This is presuming it's inadequate parenting that's making kids want to have sex early. I'm pretty sure it isn't but still.

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   SparklingJewelposted 15 years ago

   So, this thread got me started thinking again about my past...as a teenage parent. After 35 years of single parenting, and all the psychology of dysfunction sorted out (hopefully for the most part ), I have learned to get to the core of any problem.
   
   So I wrote a short hub about our individual responsibility of our Energy this morning. If we all understood the great gift of our Energy that we receive daily from the Source/God, we would understand our responsibility to respect that Energy and our use of it.
   
   Once our self-respect is learned,by understanding  we are a magnificent creation of this Energy, then we would automatically "know" our worth and make decisions based upon all ramifications and not just on our immediate desires.
   
   Of course, it is up to society to continue to talk about and remind each other of this magnificence that we are, and to continue to teach it to the next generations, by example and by knowledge.
   
   So, my point is, that thinking before acting, would mitigate the need for emergency contraception...except of course in dire cases where someone had totally lost (or maybe never had) their self respect and abused another person violently.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      So - the example you set is how you teach the next generation.
      
      What did you teach? By example. Do as I say - not as I do?

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         SparklingJewelposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         DUH!

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            SparklingJewelposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Being a lifetime learner is a good thing. Being stuck in one spot is not. You know all about that, don't you Mark? 

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               Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               I think his true depth and breadth may surprise you a little, Jewel.  IF he decides, lol, he wants to take the time...  He may decide not to waste the typing, from what I've seen.

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   Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

   Very good countrywomen.  I also remember in that other thread that you were the only one that understood how I was trying to explain the Pope's stance on condoms in Africa, being respect for women the main concern.  You are a good roll model countrywomen.

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   Leta Sposted 15 years ago

   I just have to say that abstinence from sex is just not a cultural norm in America, and I just don't see why it should be lauded as some great morally superior feat.  I know a 28 year old virgin.  She also told everybody (why?) she was a virgin.  Instead of being impressed with her, the group of friends (it was a group of girlfriends from work who worked out, etc. together) was always feeling sorry for her--because it was like she wasn't living her life (at all) by this point.  We also thought she was something of a nut, as some could imagine--but never said so and always included her in activities.
   
   The thing is--sex is part of life.  A good part.  I believe it should be viewed as such.  Both men and women are not perfect, and as much as we "try to get it right," and all this talk about respect, etc., energies, life will continue to be imperfect.  I just feel this debate is somehow disregarding this fact, and also (as always) is condescending to both women and men.  The whole thread should actually be about parenting skills, or lack thereof, in all reality--except for the clear stats and information that Cole presented.

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    Colebabieposted 15 years ago

    The double standard I was referring to is that while women who have multiple partners are referred to as "sluts" or "whores" that same standard is usually not held to men.

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       Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Amen.

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       countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Colebabie- That is exactly the point I was trying to make. In every society it is always the women who are held responsible for maintaining the morality and men tend to have lesser strictures. Sometimes selectively using religious books to further impress there point of view.
       
       MakeMoney- I am always open to other views but at the same time I am not in anyway qualified to be a role model for anyone in spite of your high opinion about me.
       
       Lita- What you say is absolutely true. I would say in earlier days i.,e my grandpa was 18 and my grandma was 16 when they got married, and my parents got married in early 20's. And nowadays most of the present generation is getting married in late 20's and early 30's hence to expect the same societal mores seems a little too high an expectation.  More ever when my brother was doing his MBA here in US he was forced by a couple of Indian students to drink beer. Where as I faced no such pressure during my studies or at present at work parties. The society has different expectations for men if they don't drink/smoke and all they are not "manly/macho" for women if they do similar they aren't having good character (I am talking mostly from Indian perspective). Although I personally don't indulge but I see no point in trying to artificially impose restrictions only on women  . I am not a feminist but I do believe in "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander"

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