Proof Trump is a Russian Agent

Jump to Last Post 1-4 of 4 discussions (19 posts)
  1. crankalicious profile image92
    crankaliciousposted 2 years ago

    Go to this site and watch the video from CNN: … al-anthem/

    Melania had to remind President Trump to put his hand over his heart during the Star Spangled banner. He clearly doesn't respect the United States or its traditions. This is proof he's a Russian spy.

    Okay... I don't actually believe that nor do I care that he forgot. He's POTUS. He's probably distracted by all sorts of things all the time and it was only a few seconds. No big deal.

    But could you imagine the reaction of the GOP had this been President Obama. Tell me that GOP wouldn't be going out of its mind right now?

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      OK - the GOP wouldn't be going out its mind right now.

      And they probably wouldn't - It was recognized early on that Obama didn't find much good about the US and didn't like it, so why expect respect for its symbol?

      1. crankalicious profile image92
        crankaliciousposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Come now. They nitpicked everything he did and labelled it "anti-American". Criticizing America for its faults does not mean you don't love your country, it just means you want to make it better. I find this whole line of reasoning ("Obama hated his own country") absurd, particularly coming from you, who I respect as a logical thinker I just happen to disagree with frequently.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Obama spent 8 years apologizing to the world for the evils of America.  I hardly recall any times he took the side of our country, and against another.  It seemed that everything he tried to do (internationally) benefited other countries more than our own.  So...I don't think he likes the country much - I think he looks at what is wrong far, far more than what is right and it colors his opinion to a large degree.

          1. crankalicious profile image92
            crankaliciousposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            I think you'd struggle to prove that statement.

            Just because somebody tries to look thoughtfully and critically at a subject does not mean that they hate the subject. Further, this supports a strain of anti-intellectualism that scholars have written volumes on. If you're not rah-rah all the time, then you're anti-American. Certainly, if you watched Fox News all the time, this is exactly the portrait painted.

            What's interesting is that, while conservatives hold this opinion, it is the opposite of how they approach business. In my business, at least, we are constantly changing and criticizing ourselves and trying to improve. Do this in business, and it's smart. Do this in politics, and it's anti-American.

            Different people have different experiences of this country. I'm certain that for virtually any black man, that experience is very different than most white men and their overall view of the country is one where lots of things can be improved. That is not something to be villified, but to be celebrated.

            1. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

              I think you confuse "rah rah all the time" with never "rah rah".

              But in any case, it is nothing but a general impression of what I saw over an 8 year span.  I didn't keep score, I didn't keep track and I didn't record anything.  It can be nothing but opinion, gathered over year's time.

              But I don't think I've defined it well, for improving America is not a part of it. Rather, it is that my impression of Obama's actions is that every other country in the world is superior to America, and that America owes every other country for the evils it has committed.  This is my impression of Obama's basic understanding of our country and it is far from my own.

              1. crankalicious profile image92
                crankaliciousposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                I'm definitely not confused about it. To me, this has to be the result of the different media you and I consume, of somebody coloring the interpretation of what Obama said and did, rather than the reality of what he said and did. I never once got the impression that Obama didn't love America.

                Again, I saw somebody getting constantly criticized for wanting to make things better by discussing what might be wrong. Just because you discuss openly what you think is wrong, doesn't mean you hate the thing. In fact, I'd argue the opposite. People who love a thing have complex discussions about what is wrong in order to make it the best that it can be.

                If you listen to the raw text of Obama's speeches, I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that he hated America. You only come to that conclusion by listening to somebody else tell you what his words mean.

                Again, it's true that both Fox News and other conservative media outlets like Breitbart believed that Obama was a Muslim-loving, American-hating traitor and if you only watched those outlets, it's hard to imagine not coming to that conclusion. And if you watched MSNBC, I suppose, maybe you come to the conclusion that he was one of our greatest presidents.

                1. wilderness profile image95
                  wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  But, Crank, "making things better" does not mean that America needs apologize every time two nations meet.  It does not mean that America needs to take back seat to every other nation.  It does not mean that America is ethically inferior to every other nation.

                  (I might add that the automatic assumption that it is because of media, and that your choice of information source was superior and right, seems a little misguided as your opinion is so obviously wrong smile )

                  It is NOT about Obama's speeches to Americans; it is about bowing down and taking position that everything we have done, in the international community, was wrong.  That we don't do our share, and more, to help others.  That we owe, somehow, for things we didn't do (this, of course, is a part and parcel of the liberal philosophy but one I reject).

                  But that did seem to be Obama's attitude, and I'm not sure at all that it was all due to media.  You're still confusing Obama's desire for better conditions for American people (at least those with dark skin) with his feelings about the country as an entity and it's position in the world community.

                  1. crankalicious profile image92
                    crankaliciousposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                    I don't recall Obama apologizing to other countries or bowing down to them. Again, this was a narrative that Fox News pushed for 8 years.

                    And your statement that he only wanted better conditions for people with dark skin is a product of some conspiratorial media narrative and is patently false and highly offensive. Does this apply to white men as well. Is Donald Trump only interested in improving conditions for white people. Was George Bush?

                    It seems as though what you're asserting emanates from the attitude that discussion and diplomacy is weakness.

                    And I don't think my choice of media is right or wrong. I do know that generally my sources are considered politically neutral and I do look at more than one, including Fox News (which is not politically neutral).

                  2. crankalicious profile image92
                    crankaliciousposted 2 years agoin reply to this
  2. poppyr profile image94
    poppyrposted 2 years ago

    That's like saying Michelle Obama is a man because Obama said "Michael and I" at an event, or saying he's a Muslim because he said "my Muslim faith" in an interview and had to be corrected by the interviewer to change it to "Christian faith".

    Also, aren't the liberals raving about how Trump is trying to start a war with Russia?

    Really gets the brain working.

    1. crankalicious profile image92
      crankaliciousposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Did you read the whole post?

  3. Faizan Asif profile image60
    Faizan Asifposted 2 years ago

    trump is a Russian agent becuse he can cheat in voting by tha change of different mechines setting.

  4. sivasubrahmanyam profile image60
    sivasubrahmanyamposted 2 years ago

    The day he started his campaign there has been mudslinging on all his activities and statements. Twisting his statement one way or the other showing his every action in a magnifying lens has become a feature of every day. Now, he is an elected President, a democratically elected President of U.S. Let us wait and watch his movement and the decisions he takes for the benefit and safety of his countrymen.


This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at:

Show Details
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the or domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)
ClickscoThis is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy)