Obama wants your children to go to school more

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   onetrueheartposted 15 years ago

   Has anyone heard about how Obama wants to increase instructional time?  Well I have been reading on some blogs around the web he wants to do this so boys can start taking sewing and knitting classes.  I do not want my son learning how to knit because that is a woman's job!  Obama wants girls to wear the pants in the family and to take accounting classes, but for my boy to become a homemaker.  One blog talks about how Michelle and Hillary really tell Obama what to do.  Okay we need to elect someone like Palin who is totally Christian because she knows how to treat a man like a man.

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      ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      This is one of the nutjobs that Beck was talking about last week.  She's an example of a fascist nutjob, an extreme right winger in other words.  Van Jones and his "white polluters are steering pollution into brown neighborhoods" is an example of a communist nutjob, an extreme left-winger in other words.  See the difference....and the similarities?

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         onetrueheartposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         No I am a guy, and I actually was just parodying what many of the right have been saying.  If you read my other post I finally came out!

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      AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Since when is knitting a woman's job? It doesn't make a man a sissy if they can knit, sew or even crochet, if it were not for us women or homes would not be grounded and if my son could do everything a woman could do besides give birth and still be a man and take care of his family needs allowing his wife to be an equal and giving her the respect she deserves as a woman and not treating her like a baby maker then more power to my son! What is wrong with a woman knowing her finances? You make it sound like women should be baby-makers and that they should not have an education I completely disagree education and working together is the key to success in a family. I don't believe a man laying around belching and farting watching his wife slave for him is!

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      Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You mean your sons and daughters dont already know these things , put them in the army or navy theyll learn fast

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      DARICANMAMIposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I have been on here for about 2 weeks and i most say reading your statement is the first time I have really LMAO you realy need to check your self in something is really wrong with you AND YES I AM A FEMALE.......

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      rhamsonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      WOW! Just WOW!

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      Brenda Durhamposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Trolling or not, you have some points.
      Indeed Obama will turn young men into effeminates if he and Arne Duncan and Jennings and a whole bunch of other fake leaders have their way with 'em.

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         I am not gonna stand here and let that damned Kenyan feminize our brave young boys!

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   Len Cannonposted 15 years ago

   Is this satire?

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      Len Cannonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      because if so, I applaud your ability to hold off for over a year on it.  That's what we call "the long con."

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   Colebabieposted 15 years ago

   wow.

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   onetrueheartposted 15 years ago

   I don't want Obama turning my boy into a sissy with extra instructional time.  I just know something is not right in America right now, and it is Obama!  Let's elect Palin in 2012!  She treats her husband like a real man, and Michelle walks all over Obama!

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      nicompposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Good grief, she brought her Mom to live with them. He's getting hen-pecked 24X7.

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   Colebabieposted 15 years ago

   again, wow.

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   Leta Sposted 15 years ago

   oh   my   god.

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   onetrueheartposted 15 years ago

   The public school is evil because they do not let my son read the Bible all day.  I want the Bible back at school, and my son does not need to learn how to knit.  His teacher had him make a doiley for mother's day, and boy did I have to go down there and tell her a piece of my mind.  Just like I need to monitor every word Obama says to my kid.  I know, just know he wants to make us all sissy men!

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      Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      And who was responsible for how you turned out ??

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      jiberishposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Send him to a christian bible school if you want him to read the bible all day. I am Christian, and even I don't want kids to do that all day.

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         A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         You realize this guy is not posting this in a serious manner, right?

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            nicompposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            We have two trolls lately.

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               A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               At least two

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                  nicompposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  I guess if you're so shallow as to have no opinions of your own...

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   Colebabieposted 15 years ago

   keep going please.

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   Michael Willisposted 15 years ago

   Whoever you have been reading from must be on something.
   Yes, he has spoken for longer school sessions. he believes it will help American children get better equiped with education for the future. Some countries already have longer school times.
   Whether or not this comes about, the spreading of "false" propaganda just to take away from the real issue is a sign of why more education is needed!!!

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    Pr0metheusposted 15 years ago

    Obama is for death panels.  He wants your parents and grandparents to die!  Obama hates babies.  That's why he voted against the bill to protect failed abortion babies.  Obama is a communist, that is why he wants health care reform.  Obama hates Americans, that's why he apologizes for our previous behavior to 'our enemies'.  Obama loves terrorists, that's why he talks to Iran.  Obama supports drug use, that's why he smokes cigarettes.  Obama lied about health care, which was way worse than lying to send us to war.  Obama is racist against white people, DUH.
    
    Obama has a lowered Cadillac limo with pimpin wheels (this ones true) - AWESOME!

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       Bibowenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I didn't know about the Cadillac, but as for the other stuff, this is old news. I'm surprised you even bothered posting it.

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          Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Telling conservatives not to talk (restricting freedom of speech) the hallmark of liberalism.
          
          LOL, I'm completely kidding.  I'm all for Obama, and I'm pretty left.  I've just recently realized the only way to defeat conservative tactics is to take them for what they are (outside of ridiculous - comical.  The less seriously I take them (which is usually pretty easy), the less bearing they seem to hold in terms of the discussion.  It has worked well so far!

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             A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Yeah, you have shown your skills to be completely flawless...yep

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             Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Yeah.  lol  Some of us were talking about coming back as alter egos and spewing a bunch of stuff like that to see how much they would actually believe and agree with.  You beat us to it.
             
             Funny!  And sad.

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             Bibowenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Dismissing the arguments by engaging in comedy without dealing with the claims against Obama....Sounds like a great strategy. That's what you should do: tilt your head back, look down at those neanderthals and give them a long sneer. Assert your mental superiority. Make sure you use the word "troll" often. Label a few with that one to intimidate the others trolls so that those hunchbacks won't dare raise their ugly paleoconservative heads.
             
             You're absolutely right that we should not mention issues. Don't discuss those. It might reveal the vacuousness of our views. But it doesn't matter that our views are starved of value; after all, we're right (I mean left....I mean....you know what I mean). Like you, I've found that we've never been able to beat the conservatives on the issues. We need a better tactic and sneering at them, I have found, works so much better. After all, being informed, while desirable, wastes a lot of time. It's much easier to be witty.

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                Madame Xposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I just love it when you talk tactics

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    Len Cannonposted 15 years ago

    A+, would be trolled again

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    Bibowenposted 15 years ago

    Sounds about right so far.....what else?

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    Tom Cornettposted 15 years ago

    Right wing....Left wing...who cares...it's all CHICKEN!

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    ledefensetechposted 15 years ago

    Why is it that everything seems to taste like chicken?

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       Tom Cornettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Didn't Colonel Sanders follow a politician around in the 70s?

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          ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I think a politician made him a Colonel in the 1970's.  Coincidence?

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             Tom Cornettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Conspiracy...OMG...Mind control drugs are in CHICKEN!

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                ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                They put a chemical in it to make you crave it nightly.  Beware the Pentavarith.

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                   Tom Cornettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   Was Colonel Sanders a Free Mason?  God...now I want some chicken!

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                      ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      No it's a Zionist conspiracy.  Is chicken kosher?

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                         Tom Cornettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                         Jew gotta be kidding?  I think it has to be Rabbi approved...if a hen has been porked....no go! 

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    RedSonja94posted 15 years ago

    I'm totally against longer school days.  My oldest son is already gone from 6:30 a.m to 7:00 p.m. for school and football practice.  A longer school day would mean he's getting home even later.  I would be disgusted with never seeing my son.  I wouldn't allow him to be at school any longer in a day.

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       rhamsonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I went to school partly overseas in high school and their system had a couple of two week vacations spaced about three months apart.
       
       I think if we had more of a quality based education that was based on catering to what the students aptitude and interest were we would take a giant leap in providing them with the tools neccessary.
       
       Teach them to teach themselves.

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          ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          We used to do that.  I'm sure you've seen that 5th grade test from around 1890 floating around the Internet.  Can you answer all of the questions?  I doubt many can today and that includes college graduates.  Shouldn't we, on average, be better educated than our ancestors of only a century or so ago?
          
          The two major problems with education are 1.  It's public and thus susceptible to political pressure and 2.  It's union dominated with all the weaknesses inherent in a union shop.

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             rhamsonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I agree and I don't know if the inverse is true as well.
             
             I have hired kids that can't even tally up their hours on a paycheck and tell me if it's correct.  The most important thing we can teach our children is the basics in reading and arithmetic.  If they can do that they can further themselves independently of the NEA.

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                Madame Xposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I've seen this phenomenon and it's scary. I was in a copy shop about 10 years ago and a woman came in and asked how much to make 100 copies of something. The clerk said "well, they're .6 cents each". So the customer said "so how much would that be?" and the clerk pulled out a calculator! Both of these people were in their mid 20's.

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                ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Have you seen some of these people calling themselves teachers today?  I tutor the daughter of a friend in algebra and she really does get it.  I hardly have to prompt her at all.  Even so, when she arrives for tutoring, she doesn't understand what the teacher said.  Apparently he doesn't give notes and rushes through the curriculum.  This guy can't take the five seconds it would take to prompt his kids so that they can figure out the right answers.
                
                I've always felt it was a bad idea to have a teacher specialize in one subject.  For the most part we're talking about basic subjects here, not advanced sixth year college classes.  If you can't teach math, English, science, writing, etc. then you shouldn't be a teacher.  At least if you taught more than one subject, it wouldn't get boring and you'd probably not rush through the subject like some teachers do.  Plus you could, you know, make it relevant to the kids and keep them interested in the subject no matter how dry it is.

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                   rhamsonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   I agree that teachers who teach only one topic seem to have little regard for the children to have critical thought skills.  Fill in the dots and turn the paper in is what is on their minds. 
                   
                   Here in Maryland the educators are trying to gain credibility for standardized testing with great results.  They put together a test and then teach the children what is on the test so they can pass it.  Wow! Instant results.  Now that they have proven that the children have been taught they want to get better benefits and wages.  I am totally for teachers getting a good benefit package and good wages but what about the children?
                   
                   The problem is not totally their fault and there are many very good teachers out there.  I even ran across a few of them when I was in school. But the curriculum is the culprit and not neccessarily the techniques.
                   
                   And could we possibly ask the chid what they think once in awhile?

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                      ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      The entire system is a mess.  When you consider that many parents never mentally made it past high school but now they can sue, the issue becomes more dire.  It's part an parcel of having a public system.  Public systems take away your ability to choose where to send your kid to be educated.  The funny thing about all this is that absent a public school system, there would be no fights about education.  Those schools that could educate kids would thrive and those that couldn't would go away.  There would be a great emphasis on the teachers to be able to produce students who were actually educated, not simply taught how to fill out a multiple choice form.

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                         rhamsonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                         Where does that leave the christian based schools and the home school base? Is the future of education to be based on a biased one sided slant or is are we going to be morphed into a single minded society that has no free thought or expression?

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                            tksenseiposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                            That's the 'present' of education.

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                               A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                               That be a true statement!

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                                  onetrueheartposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                  Maybe we should all buy some slates and have a prairie school style education.  Heck, literacy was great back in the 1800's, but they did not have computers either.  I would like to think we have progressed, and there is much variety to be found in education.  The right is so negative, and boring!

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                                     ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                     Pass this test:
                                     
                                     http://mwhodges.home.att.net/1895-test.htm
                                     
                                     Seems like your 1800's education was quite a bit more that what you get from the broken down public school system we have in place today.  BTW that was a test to graduates of the 8th grade. We have college graduates that can't pass that test.

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                                     A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                     But you sure livened the joint up didncha?

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                            ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                            When you allow market forces to dominate the education market, you won't see any one sided anything.  Let's assume that the local Catholic school, due to low tuition, teaches most of the students in a town.  Now let's say the administration wants to teach traditional Catholic doctrine.  No science, etc.  Now those parents who didn't have a problem with that would keep their kids in that school.  The parents who did have a problem with it, well, don't you think they'd start looking for alternatives?  A religious school is actually a bad example because they can afford to lose some of their potential students, subsided as they are by churches.  But even that's not too much of a problem because people who go to that church generally support the educational goals of the church.  Non-church members will have to find alternatives.
                            
                            Now don't you think there would be smart people out there to take advantage of that situation and start a new school that emphasized science, etc. and met the demand for parents who did not want a parochial education for their kids?  In fact I think all schools would have to adopt a broad curriculum in order to attract the greatest number of students.  After all more students equals more money.  Unlike public schools, private schools would have to prove that their kids are educated because no parent would choose to send their kid to a school which did not educate them.  Public schools get money based on the number of students they have, not necessarily how well they are educated.
                            
                            You'd also not see regimentation of thought like you can in public school.  A private school has to be careful in what they do so they don't alienate the parents of their students.  In effect they'd have to limit themselves to educating kids on reading, writing, math and science.  Otherwise their parents would pull them from school.  Less students = less money.

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                               rhamsonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                               So a capatalist approach is what you suggest?  How would the costs not exclude the children who do not come from more affluent means?  I am not saying it is not a good idea but with the recent discussions relating to health and other socialized programs is there an economical as well as effective way to make something like this work?
                               
                               Another thing we have to come to grips is the test by which they would be judged.  Who would compile it and institute it?  Remember the NEA.  If you ever run up against them as a politician you won't be for long.

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                                  ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                  Poor kids would be educated either by schools set up with endowments from philanthropists or there would be a market for bare-bones, no frills education.  Reading, writing, math.  What you don't consider is that there would be a veritable explosion of education opportunities that a person could take advantage of their whole lives.  Something akin to community colleges or correspondence courses all the way up to formal universities and colleges.
                                  
                                  As for the determination of quality, well, that too would be market based.  Tell me, are you familiar with Underwriter's Laboratories?  Or Consumer Reports?  Companies like those would publish guidelines that organizations would have to meet to get a stamp of approval.  In fact, something like that is a major reason why I don't believe we need state licensing of doctors or hospitals.  The market can provide those services and they won't have any political attachments unlike taking public money. 
                                  
                                  A free market system would pretty much kill the teachers union so no NEA or Department of Education or any nonsense like that.  That's why we've not made the changes we need to.  Unions always make an inferior product, that only becomes more apparent over time.  Look at the auto industry.  Union dominated and they don't make a car American's want to buy.  Look at the Japanese auto industry.  No unions and they can't sell us enough cars.  There's a lesson there.

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    bluetiger1520posted 15 years ago

    Obama is not for death panels
    people need to stop lying on Obama. Education is a great thing. we need more education in our lives.

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    ledefensetechposted 15 years ago

    Hey men, jew making fun of my accent?

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       Tom Cornettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Have a bagel! 

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    ledefensetechposted 15 years ago

    Do they have corn bagels? 

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       Tom Cornettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       If they do...they have to be blessed and marked with (Latino Jew Approved)

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          ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Muy bueno.  Would that be Hebteca approved?

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    dohn121posted 15 years ago

    I believe that the quality of education our children receive should be improved, not the duration of such.  The entire educational system should be revamped.

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       Flightkeeperposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Hear! Hear! Very true.  I think the kids are in school long enough and it hasn't done much in the way of more educated kids.  There are so many who barely know how to communicate clearly much less do simple arithmetic.  What additional subjects would be added.  Would it be true scholarship or just feel good subjects that keep our kids confidently stupid?

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       jiberishposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Agree, Agree, Agree!

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       Jane@CMposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I agree in some respects.  We have a great school system, but it could be better.  They are now teaching to the test (standardized).
       
       My daughter started tutoring math in 8th grade.  She is now a college freshman and tutoring other freshman in physics & calculus - so I'm prone to say she received a great education.
       
       My son hates school, but stays on the A & B honor role - I'm one tough cookie mom who won't let homework slack.
       
       My son knows how to cast on & wanted to learn more about knitting, but I'm a left handed knitter and I don't do a great job at teaching right handed    I know many men who can make some fine wool sweaters.   My son can make great chocolate chip cookies too - so there!

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       Neil Sperlingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       That is so true - longer school days in a system that is totally left sided does not teach people to think for themselves.

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    lari1307posted 15 years ago

    OH MY with all the problems in our country we have a congress and president with a one track mind. Trying to cram something down our throats we DO NOT want like health care and more mess in our school system than they have already put there.
    
    Instead of finding a way to get decent jobs returned to the USA,they are worrying about ways to spend OUR money that we DONOT have. 
    
    Time to tell the elected exactly who they work for WE THE PEOPLE

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    edguiderposted 15 years ago

    I recently saw a program on German TV DW and the German government has already done this is elementary school. Instead of classes from 9 to 2 they kids now have to go to school from 9 to 4!

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    Zeke WMposted 15 years ago

    Oh! Oh no! Obama's going to make kids girly by making them smarter! How horrible! We should go for a true Christian like Sarah Palin who will abolish freedom of religion!
    
    I thought it was satire too. This is ridiculous. AND I AM MALE!

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    rebekahELLEposted 15 years ago

    
    
    whose alter ego is this??
    
    sarah palin ???? 
    
    I needed a really good laugh this afternoon.

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    bg jojoposted 15 years ago

    ... you'd be surprised at the Army he's building with your kids.  Check out a video on YouTube called: "THE OBAMA DECEPTION."
    
    let me go see if I could find it real fast...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

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    E2W_Life storiesposted 15 years ago

    Since when is it the governments job to make sure our kids are performing well at school?  Its enough that the kids in this country have access to education and the freedom to pursue it.  Imagine if there were no schools at all.  Parents need to take responsibility for what behaviors they are instilling in their children.  Are they placing enough emphasis on education?  If not then it won't matter whether their child goes to school for a few hours or an extended day.  If the motivation is not there then nothing can be done to help that child succeed.  Its a pretty simple concept.  I often hear people say that the school systems are failing to produce successful students, well what about the successful students that attended those same schools?  Some of these parents are not even smarter than a fifth grader themselves.  One thing they have learned is how to push the blame onto others and are teaching their children the same.

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    tksenseiposted 15 years ago

    Wow, more funny pictures! How clever!

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