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Are you a liberal or are you a socialist?

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sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago
I'm a conservative moderate. I vote for who I think will do the best job. Otherwise I vote issues. I wanted to give my benchmark so maybe someone can point out which is which, they're the same or non of the above. I fear socialists hide behind a liberal banner. What do you think?
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sooner than laterposted 7 years ago
"I fear socialists hide behind a liberal banner."

of corse they do. tomato & tomoto.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Thats what I thought.
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jiberishposted 7 years ago
Aren't they both the same?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Thats what I thought. How you doing?
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sooner than laterposted 7 years ago
Im a conservative moderate as well. I felt i had to vote for the lesser of 2 evils.

To be honest, I have not been overly impressed with Rep/Dem 'final' options for a good long while.
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Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago
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  Pr0metheusposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  LOL, that made me laugh.
  
  Well if we're talking about socialists hiding behind the guise of 'liberalism', what about full on conservatives hiding behind the guise of 'independant' or 'moderate conservative'. I run into those all the time. Me, I consider myself a moderate left winger. I have voted right wing on issues before. I like to analyze a situation before I devote myself to a vote.
  
  Analysis of the last Presidential election was easy. Even if I had supported McCain, his choice of running mate would have driven me away. Palin is an idiot of the highest caliber, and we don't need another one of those in a high position.
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  Randy Godwinposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  As usual, you get right to the crux of the matter Ron. Same old circle, different thread.
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  Randy Godwinposted 7 years agoin reply to this
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  I was going to respond by starting a thread titled "Are you a conservative or a goat f***er," but the image summed it up nicely
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  And you're such a nice boy too!
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Mishaposted 7 years ago
neither
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Colebabieposted 7 years ago
::walks in, takes a look around, walks back out::
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jiberishposted 7 years ago
The questions wasn't 'are you a democrate or a republican.'
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  Pr0metheusposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Good thing I didn't answer that question then. Maybe you should actually read what I posted before posting such jibberish.
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Colebabieposted 7 years ago
Does anyone know a liberal republican? (whatever the words mean)
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  I vote issues and there are some liberal positions I agree with, just not how they go about getting the job done. But I relate better, in gereral, with conservatives.
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  Colebabieposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  What liberal positions do you agree with?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Enviroment, not cap & trade, because I believe we need to do some things to clean things up. Healthcare needs to be reformed I just don't want to pay illegals or those who have chosen to not work, key word chosen. I'm a strong supporter of mandatory national service. I believe we need education reform alot of our public schools are not safe and we need to get more middle and lower income kids in college.
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  tony0724posted 7 years agoin reply to this
  none
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sooner than laterposted 7 years ago
the presidential election has become such a joke that I have a hard time liking anyone. McCain was the lesser of the evils in my eye, but here in AZ he has completely ignored the border issues that DO need addressed. Did Palin scare me? "you betcha".

But Obama. here comes the pain train. on every level imaginable.
Heres your "Change". T-"boned".
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  There wasn't a good choice. I knew that if Obama was elected though they'd all be crawling out of the woodwork! Surprise and they're all here!
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  sooner than laterposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  crawlers of all sorts. I agree. Some of these peoples agenda absolutely blows me away.
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Colebabieposted 7 years ago
Nice. But those are kinda neutral topics anyways. Improve the environment, better healthcare, and better education. I think everyone wants that.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Those are the issues that seem to be key for this regime.
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  Colebabieposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Shouldn't they be key for any regime?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  The economy and the war needs attention first if we're ever going to have money for any thing. Thats the way a liberal would prioritize things, thats why us conservatives think you need to have your heads examined.
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sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago
Yeah! Thanks for all the lessons!
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sooner than laterposted 7 years ago
helping those in need and those who are not able is very attainable.

What a liberal and a conservative deem as needy and unable are two different things.

Conservative- if you are in need, sure we will help you. But we are going to help you get back on your feet so that you can contribute to the big wheel. We want you "in need" for a short period of time.

Liberal- if you are in need, we are going to spoon feed you. We are gonna wipe your butt as well. Take as long as you want, not as long as you need. We don't encourage marriage because if you are married with 12 little "paychecks" guess what, you aren't getting your paycheck. Don't earn your keep, there are plenty of hard working americans out there who are more than willing to pay your keep. Mexico, come on in. We will pay for you too. If you commit crimb, you are safe because our laws protect you- not our 'spoiled' citizens. What ant and grasshopper story?
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  livelongerposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Don't forget that you can usually distinguish conservatives from liberals by their halos (liberals usually have devil horns, which, of course, the government paid for).
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  Star Witnessposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  ooooooo I wanna commit a 'crimb' so I can hear the wise morals of the ant and grasshobber storiez that only the proponentz of the big wheels can tell.
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  Pr0metheusposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  LOL....
  
  I don't see how conservatives help a person in need at all? Isn't it sort of a "you got screwed/messed up... sux for u!" mentality? Liberalism is the opposite. I dunno about wiping somebodies ass, but they'll help them when they're in need.
  
  I also don't see how liberals all the sudden don the "devil's horns". That makes no sense. Maybe try sticking to actual arguments. Unlike the ones presented, they tend to imply a lack of stupidity.
  
  I'm not saying we should become a socialist country, but fascism is no better. Read my posts and you'll realize that I think the best country is run from the center (a good balance of both sides). Elections are always between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich.
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  livelongerposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe I should...what seems to me to be obvious sarcasm was apparently misinterpreted.
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  Pr0metheusposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Add the <sarcasm> tag, then, jeez!
  
  "Why'd the monkey fall out of the tree? It was dead!"
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  livelongerposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Poe's Law.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Quoth the monkey?
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  livelongerposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Dead monkeys can't say anything!
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  Pr0metheusposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Or can they?
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  livelongerposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Only an evolutionist would suggest that we and dead monkeys can talk to each other.
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Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago
Should've gone with idea #1
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  Randy Godwinposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  No self respecting goat would go for that idea Ron.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  And so quick witted too!
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  Randy Godwinposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Something not often found in conservative "circles."
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olivertwistedposted 7 years ago
"Are you a liberal or a socialist?" OR Are you an apple or...uuuhhh.....an apple?"
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Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago
I'm sure you won't appreciate a thread entitled "Are you a conservative or a fascist". Why must you insist on putting people in such boxes? Most people are a combination of many beliefs.
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  sooner than laterposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  because fascism was never a part of the agenda for the american people. Socialism is.
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  Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  it's a misconception. the difference between two are minimal, mostly in finding a scapegoat, and America may become fascist as well as socialist. The key is the total nationalization.
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  Pr0metheusposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  BOTH of those are scary thoughts.
  
  As with everything in life, BALANCE IS KEY!
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  Uninvited Writerposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  And the pope might convert to Judaism
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  Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  We'll talk a few years down the road, when the dust more or less settles, OK?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  That could happen. He's already recruiting Anglicans.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Lighten up! I'm just having fun starting trouble!
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  Colebabieposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  She asked a valid question. You've generalized me into a few boxes.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Only because I'm mildly retarded!
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  Colebabieposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  And I don't like that word. Pretty sure I told you that before. So maybe that was on purpose?
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  Pr0metheusposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  MILDLY!?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  It's sad but it's all I got!
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  Pr0metheusposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  If you bang your head against the wall, like Jib, you can turn that mild into full blown!
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  jiberishposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  It's a good thing I'm much older than you or I would take offense to that.
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  Pr0metheusposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  What does the relationship between our ages have to do with you taking offense to something? I'd like to hope most people, even those around my age, would realize that was a joke...
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  jiberishposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Exactly!
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  Randy Godwinposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Don't worry UW, we love to laugh at him.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  I know that
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jiberishposted 7 years ago
<<<<<Banging head against the wall......
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Mishaposted 7 years ago
No need Jib, just make sure your passport is current
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Len Cannonposted 7 years ago
Yes!
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Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago
Sooooo, what does you being older than me have to do with it?

P.S. You wouldn't be the first person to attempt to insult my age - ask sneako - (never thought I'd be insulted for being young, lol).
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  jiberishposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Just saying that I've been to forums where people automatically get offended... I got the joke.
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Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago
Ahhh, but I don't think that is age dependent.

(Edit: Not to be confused with maturity dependent!)
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Pr0metheusposted 7 years ago
LOL
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habeeposted 7 years ago
Pro, conservatives don't care about helping others? Do some research and see which group donates more to charities.
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  T-Schultzposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Only for the tax deduction.
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Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago
Here's a review of a couple of books about the libertarian cult's fairy godmother--for Misha, jiberish, ldt, Aya, et al.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/spl/rands-world.html

And a comment on the fairy godmother by Murray Rothbard

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard23.html

Enjoy!

Somebody said recently "What we need is Darwinian Socialism!"
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garynewposted 7 years ago
Modern liberals are dangerously close to being socialists. That's what one of my hubs claims, anyway.
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Niteriterposted 7 years ago
Who here can provide a rational, opinion-vacant definition of socialism?
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