What are your feelings about racial/ethnic births surpassing Caucasians births in the U.S.?
According to 2011 estimates by the Census, for the first time, racial and ethnic births make up more than 50% of all births in the United States. How will this impact the U.S. in the next 20 years?
I don't suppose it will hit it, but it may have an effect.
Is this an underhand attempt to allow all the racists to have a good vent?
Let's hope that the Native Americans are in that increase, it may push them along the way to getting their lands back that were stolen from them by the Caucasian invaders.
No...this was not my intent...rather it was curiosity on my part how others felt. Personally, I feel the more diversity the better. I'm not sure if Native Americans were included. I just read about it on Yahoo News.
American Indians did not own the land so how could the land be stolen? And are the Spaniards "Caucasian invaders" or perhaps the are considered "white Spaniards?" Also, set the standard and if you own land donate it to your favorite Indian tribe.
Yes, Spaniards are Caucasian, and ownershipo of the land is just a diversion to those who want to say that The American continents belong to the Caucasian conquerors, They conned the N Americans and drove them into inadequate reservations.
I want the Comanches to give the Wichita their lands back. And I also hope that the Welsh people are on the increase so that they can push the Saxon and Norman invaders back out of Britain.
I think it would make the US even more of a vibrant and colourful place, even more of a fascinating melting pot. It would reflect the reality of the world, that people are much more mobile now. There seems to be a perception among some that immigration is both a problem and a new phenomenon. I see it as neither. America, like the UK where I live, seems enriched by immigration. America is already a country where many surnames reflect European ancestry - names from the Nordic countries, Poland, Ireland and Germany for example, inherited from those who moved to the USA in search of a better life.
If anyone still thinks that racial "purity" is either desirable or achievable, I'd say two things. Firstly that particular horse bolted long, long ago and secondly, that's what Hitler wanted, too.
Bravo Jan! Wow you certainly have the ability to string words together in order to present a logical and understandable presentation on how you feel. I loved your response...in case you couldn't tell.
It is certainly not what I desire, but you can see the possibility.
The US is already the most diverse society in the world. The US is madeup of immigrants. The only change is the percentage distribution of ethnic groups. The issue is will these groups want more or less gov.
What an interesting thing to ponder. Go far back enough and we all have the same ancestor anyways, The only reason why we have races is because of seperate develpoement through isolation. America, as a society, is still striving to meet a certain level of maturity. When we learn how to live with our neighbors better we will continue to mingle. Its very challenging when you try but others racially discriminate against you.
Whether we realize it or not, the universe is unfolding as it should. I know that is a very existential answer. But I believe there is a certain natural order to things. But to answer your question, I have no idea how this will impact the U.S. in the next 20 years.
I really like that thought, that "the universe is unfolding as it should". I try to embrace that, some days it's easier than others but thank you for reminding me!
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We have to fix America's attitude about entitlement. Also, we must teach all races that live here the same lesson on maintaining a republic. All must realize the choices they make affect others and the community as well.
I think that it is fantastic, natural and good that people of color are, as a whole, reflecting more of what the world is about.
But I am vastly more concerned about the quality of life that the children will be living.
White racists want control of our society for their own selfish purposes, and at the expense of everyone else. If they are not the majority, they will find another excuse for taking more than they deserve to have.
They are lying, murdering, perverting morality, creating blasphemous religions, corrupting our institutions and writing illegal law in order to grab all they can for themselves.
For sake of survival, we had better continue to progress toward equal treatment, equal opportunity and full integration of American citizens, and we need to quit stacking the deck against those with the darkest skins.
Otherwise, nobody's children will have much to be happy about.
America is an idea, not a color. 100% of those births will be to Americans. The impact will be a good one. Without the influx of new people and without diversity we would end up as a giant retirement community (no offense to retirement communities, but that is hardly the way to sustain a culture).
For one thing, that statistic is not really true -- and that it because a great many of the people who are classified as Hispanic are actually white, or Caucasian if you prefer.
In fact, a very considerable number of the people with Spanish surnames are in the same league as such "ethnic whites" as Italians and Greeks.
So, when that factor is taken into account, whites will continue to account for the majority of births in the U.S.
The article I was referring to was posted on Yahoo News about 15 hours ago and was written by Hope Yen of the Associated Press and it references the 2011 Census. I was simply the messenger with a question of curiosity.
Pagesvoice, reporting that Caucasians are rapidly becoming the new minority in the U.S. is nothing but a scare tactic by the news media. It is yellow journalism.
The Census considers "white" to be whites of non-Hispanic ethnicity. When you do a survey, you can consider white to be whatever you want. However, the statistic, as quoted, by Pagesvoice is correct.
junkseller, I did not say that pagevoice is incorrect. I said the statistic is wrong--and that is because the Census Bureau's categorization of people is not based on anthropological realities. And do NOT ever jump me again. Got it!
feenix, the anthropological reality is that Hispanics are a distinct and identifiable ethnic group, regardless of their race. If you consider correcting you as 'jumping' you, than perhaps it is time for you to put on some big boy pants.
junkseller, such Mediterranean types as Americans of Italian and Greek descent are also members of "distinct and identifiable ethnic groups," yet they are categorized as white, period. And the same should apply to U.S. whites with Spanish surnames.
Categorical systems can not be too broad (we are all human) or too narrow (we are all unique). Distinguishing between whites, from Europe, and Hispanics from Central and South America seems useful, though, hardly perfect.
In the science of Anthropology, ethnicity and native land are not used to determine a group's racial classification. And are not Argentine, Chilean, Mexican and Cuban whites white?
Yes, they would be racially white, but also ethnically Hispanic. A lot of people consider that an important distinction.
Most of the ones who consider that to be an important distinction are the whites who are bigotted towards Hispanics. They are in the same league as the early 20th-Century white bigots who refused to view Italian and Jewish immigrants as white.
America has always been know as the melting pot of races. Soon the stew will brew all to one color and flavor. Our society is overpopulated and it is inevitable that in the future we will be considered simply a human race and nothing else to seperate us as different, but maybe our opinions.
when I saw the story in the news this morning my first reaction was "woo- cool!"
also, a couple of years ago I read that in not too many years Hispanics will be the majority in the U.S.
My kids are half-Mexican. I've done my bit to blend the ethnic groups by adding an Aztec pedigree to my descendents.
One day we will all be the same anyways, so it doesn't matter. We should be worried about the good American values moving forward, not what color our grandchildren will be
I think the journey of ethnic births surpassing Caucasians started on the day America was born - from the first caucasian/ethnic union. It was just a matter of time that the statistics could show it in numbers. I can't begin to count the number of ethnic groups that reside in my own birth. Just starting with my great grandparents alone, there is Caucasian, African American, French, Indian, and Hispanic. So, when I fill out the cesnus form... what box do I check? I have been taught that if I have any "black" in me at all, then I should check the box that says, "Black/African American". When I match up the different ethnicities in me, I see that there is more of one than the other, still I check the box for Black/African American. What would happen if my sister checked the box for French? Or, what if my brother checked the box for "Caucasian"? We are born of the same parents, but our heritage is mixed. I wouldn't put a lot of my money on the accuracy of statistics. The results are subjective. I'm just one person and it all comes down to what I want to label myself today. I might wake up tomorrow and check the box for Hispanic just for the fun of it. Based upon the logic of, "If you have any black in you..." I'd still be telling the truth. What if people said, "If you have any Indian in you, then you must check the box for Indian"? Don't mind me; I'm just stirring up the pot!
I believe the first impact this will have on the United States is in the educational systems. Schools all across the country will increasingly become more and more diverse. This diversity is a great thing in my eyes( I grew up a white kid in a town that was predominately minority), but it comes with unique difficulties.
The largest determiner of success in school is directly linked to language skills in childhood. Minorities who come from cultures that, for instance, speak a different language may rarely to never speak English in the household. such a lack of language skills will hinder a child's success. Yet many schools are wholly under prepared for the challenges that come with children who speak English as a second language.
So a great follow-up question would be what are school systems should do about language. English is the de-facto language, but what are schools doing enough to promote and grow this language. Should other languages be used in schools systems with large minorities of a certain language(most notably Spanish)?
This is a problem which shows a lack of adoption of American culture. America is bigger than any ethnicity. When individuals fail to adopt American culture that is not conducive to being a melting pot.
Lions Den Media: What we have today, is not a melting pot, but more like a mixed salad. There is lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, carrots, and salad dressing. I'm not saying it's bad. It's just my observation.
I think it's great. A long time ago I decided that the cure for racism was mixed bloods. My own children are half Asian.
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