Should the US take a tougher stance with Pakistan while encouraging India to step up in Afghanistan?
The U.S. is calling Pakistan out for harboring Al Qaeda, the Taliban and other terrorist organizations that attack in Afghanistan. The U.S. is also courting India to step up in Afghanistan when the U.S. troops are moved out. This would give India two fronts against Pakistan. Is this the only way to get the point across to Pakistan that we will not tolerate them harboring terrorist groups?
Dangerous situation. They both have Nukes. My worry is more that Al Qaeda will start controlling more of Pakistan. Again they have Nukes.
Yes they have nukes, but I think I shall quote my favorite current movie in,
Pakistan:"I have an army..."
United States: "We have a Hulk."
Well i certainly would not want them tested. Its a Nuke
Pakistan has nukes just like six other countries including US. Oh I forgot Israel! who is known to occupy more nukes than Pakistan and India put together. Al Qaeda does not have any nukes because it has never been proven, its just a propaganda.
America should stop sending them money by the millions! I heard Democrats saying today how great Pakistan is to us and how they want to fight terrosism with us on their side!...........no one bothered to ask why they just gave a doctor 33 years in prison for helping catch a terrosist????
You are right. I can't believe that Bin Laden was in there country and they did not know?
It makes no sense that we send them money. Bin Laden was enough, but the harboring of every other brand of terrorist means we should leave Pakistan to fend for itself.
@handymanbill Oh believe me, they new. Maybe not the locals or the military, but the top brass in Pakistan definitely knew. You don't live in a compound with a full security detail without the government knowing. How do you think he remained hidden?
You probably are not aware of MIT educated Pakistani cognitive neuro-scientist Dr. Aafia Siddiqui who is sent to 88 years in prison by the US court for "allegedly" shooting at two US Marines in Bagram airbase. She was raped before facing the court!
The US should stay out of the dangerous game of trying to control the affairs of Central Asia. If ours was an informed and educated society that had anything to offer the world other than the barrel of a gun, I might think it was worth us sticking our nose in other nations' business. But because we don't mind our own business, Al Qaeda wants to attack us. I honestly don't care about Al Qaeda and don't think international adventures is in our best interest.
Hasn't central asia been a quagmire for any nation that tried to interfere there? It is an awful part of the world, but I keep thinking about the women and children.
I think about them as well, but I can't save everybody. I certainly don't expect the government to do it. I'm sure we've accidentally killed a fair amount of women and children over there ourselves.
I say we just get the heck out of there all together. Why doesn't someone else play "World Police" for a change? Oh, that's right; there not trying to destroy the world through "Democracy"!
How many people have we killed in the name of "Democracy"? How many countries have been destroyed so they can have the "American Way"? Then we sit around and wonder why the world hates us. It is time for us to wise up.
China, Pakistan and Iran have already laid the groundwork to move into Afghanistan as the west moves out. India is not in the picture. As for the US bullying the Pakistanis, forget it. Washington is progressively losing its leverage there. The pullout from Iraq and Afghanistan is a route disguised as controlled foreign policy. The US has no longterm control over that region.
none is interested in peace, every one wants to claim title of super power at the cost of soldiers blood.
I think if we stopped meddling in the Middle East (and most other countries for that matter) we wouldn't be the focus of terrorist attacks in the first place and wouldn't have to make decisions like this.
The U.S. needs to get out of foreign countries and fix all of the problems back at home first. The fall of the Roman empire came from occupying foreign lands and I foresee our country falling to the same fate.
America is a warlike nation and has wasted trillions on useless wars, many of which it has lost. America is bankrupt but the average American knows more about DWTS and the Kardashians than about the serious problems America faces.
It's unfortunate, but you're 100% right.
I so see the same as you! We are eating our own while we meddle all over the world. That has never worked for a civilization.
Hi Xenonlit. I have been following your comments on several questions, and I think we disagree on a lot politically. But here we agree. Pakistan and our relationship with it...no good answers. They are not our friends, mostly, and some are outright enemies. I think India would be a better long-term partner. Less crazy anyway.
Don't trust them...it's up to them to prove their credibility which they have failed so far.Remember that the I.S.I. trains and aids terrorists that are sent into India and Afghanistan.Pakistan should be told that they must accept a zero-tolerance attitude to terrorism or they shall face very dire consequences.
"very dire consequences"? Such as bomb and kill innocent civilians?
What you said above is an impression created by the U.S. because the U.S. enjoys when India and Pakistan are against each other. There are enough of Indians in India who can do much more harm to the country than a few Pak terrorists.
That is not going to happen. The situation is a lot more complicated internally to Pakistan and externally with western countries. It would be nice to cut Pakistan off from any more money, but who will fill the void? Vladimir Putin.
I'm very much in favor of warmer relations with India and cooler relations with Pakistan. Although we need Pakistan, they can not be trusted and we need to change the tone of the relationship.
India "step up"? Why should India get involved in a problem America created? America armed the Mujahideen to fight the Soviets and when they drove the Soviets out, they took control of their country. Of course, America sees it differently and now wants all and sundry to waste their resources like it (America) has. America also wanted India to send troops to Iraq. India wisely refused, and I think it will stay out of Afghanistan.
Pakistan has always been playing this game. They pretend to fight the terrorists and at the same time, they also train those terrorists. Pakistan would get money out of the US only if terrorists are available. Thus, it is in their interest to see that terrorists are not wiped out. There is only one way the terrorists can be wiped out. That is to fight the terrorists within Pakistan.
Being an Indian I have been keenly following all the events that have unfolded in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan over nearly two decades. The Taliban and Al Qaeda are illegitimate children of American Foreign policy which is fueled by American selfish interests in Asia. This policy is devoid of any ethics whatsoever. America used the Taliban to drive out the Russians from Afghanistan and when the job was don left the Taliban jobless; tribesmen armed with sophisticated weapons supplied by America; What can we expect?
America has now and then tried to pull India into the conflicts and the mess created by them in the Middle East. However being a very mature democracy India has tactfully avoided involvement. However due to the common border with Afghanistan and also due the the unstable situation within, Pakistan has not been able to take a tough rigid stance. Pakistan has actually been an unwilling victim of Dirty and selfish American foreign policy lured by much needed financial support.
America should not try to put Indian and Pakistan against each other because lately in spite of several incidents of terrorism in both countries, both Asian Nuclear powers have shown maturity in avoiding such a conflict.
What America should have the good sense to do is stop meddling in Asia and pay attention to problems of Americans who are on the verge of economic collapse.
In Asia Pakistan and India should co-operate in every sphere including military. If both these countries trust each other and co-operate then Asia will be a better place and much more prosperous.
Good luck getting the Indians and Pakistanis to become friends.
Now that India and Pakistan are coming closer by opening up trade, friendly visa policy and resolve to all major conflicts, US finds it very difficult to swallow. This was not the plan, the US plan was to spark a fight, sit back, relax and watch!
You need to admit that a lot of American money also went to humanitarian and development aid at the same time. We didn't start the Peace COrps, the REd Cross and other non profits for oil or strategic minerals. It's a two edged sword.
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