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If America is such a bad country, why not just leave?

  1. pstraubie48 profile image84
    pstraubie48posted 5 years ago

    If America is such a bad country, why not just leave?

    Some people are so critical of America. They can find very little that is good about it. Why stay here? I know that having the money to move could be used as an excust. But, 'where there's a will, there's a way.'
    The irony of the criticism is that we have the freedom to say what we think. So we can be critical without making it constructive and it is okay.  In many countries that would unwise and in some cases unlawful.
    'If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.'
    Just wondering what your thoughts are....

    https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/6915625_f260.jpg

  2. pstraubie48 profile image84
    pstraubie48posted 5 years ago

    America has been the name that I sing about in the song 'God Bless America;...and unless I am mistaken, the America, in that song is the United States of America. And unless I have been wrong all of these years, the Untied States of America is a country. It is on the continent of North America.

  3. Cre8tor profile image100
    Cre8torposted 5 years ago

    You've done a great job answering this question really. People like to complain...but the fact is, people are scared to be "out of their element" and in many cases, countries aren't as willing to let folks just move in like the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. The fact of the matter is that there IS a lot to be upset about in this country today but leaving it would be no easier than giving up on a loved one who has struggled...even by their own doing. Love is tough and leaving is tougher.

    1. lone77star profile image85
      lone77starposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I love overseas and still love my country, but being weaned of the Corporate Party Media kool-aid, I can say with certainty that America is becoming Hitler 2.0 or Gulag Amerika, Inc. First, help wake people up! Then do something constructive!!

  4. GoGreenTips profile image62
    GoGreenTipsposted 5 years ago

    I hate to disagree with most of the answers here, but it is not only a right to disagree or complain about things we see as wrong it is our duty to do so. It is a responsibility. You cannot maintain freedom without being able to disagree, to debate what the government is doing

    If we have reached the point to where everyone in this country thinks that if you disagree with what is happening or complain about it then we are no longer free.

    1. lone77star profile image85
      lone77starposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Amen! Do your patriotic duty.

      Complaining helps to shine a light on a problem. Naturally, it's best to provide a possible solution or suggestion.

    2. ChristinS profile image94
      ChristinSposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I totally agree.  I remember when we protested the Iraq war people turned on us for it.  It was unpatriotic to question etc.    Dissent is necessary for freedom. You have to be able to speak the truth even when it isn't popular.

    3. pagesvoice profile image85
      pagesvoiceposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      To ChristinS...You hit the nail on the head. We were all hoodwinked into a war based on falsehoods and lies and even to this date, we are paying the price.  Fighting for justice is what makes us great!

  5. lone77star profile image85
    lone77starposted 5 years ago

    Idea of America is beautiful. People are, for most part, quite wonderful. A small minority have slowly destroyed America.

    When the top brass of America's military can concoct a plan to murder their fellow citizens in a clandestine, "false flag" operation, then we live in a very sick country indeed. Operation Purpose: to elicit enough hate to attack another country. This happened in 1963—Operation Northwoods. The general who wrote this proposal lost his job as the head of the joint chiefs, but he's not the only one to think of this kind of tyranny.

    For instance, 9/11 was an inside job. It could not have been done by Al Qaeda. They were patsies set up by those who really murdered the victims of that day.

    Fixing America when Corporate Party Media works for the bad guys is tough? The Internet is one solution. Of course, that cannot work if the bad guys get to censor anyone they don't like. The quantity of legislation assaulting the freedom of the Internet is mind boggling. They must have a veritable factory cranking out different versions of legislation to put the Internet in prison—SOPA, PIPA, CISPA and more.

    We have a narrow opportunity to fix America. We have to do something, now.

    SUGGESTIONS:
    Spread the word about the truth of 9/11. Thousands of scientists, engineers and architects know that the official story of 9/11 was wrong. Check out http://www.AE911Truth.org for videos and other details. Check on YouTube. Sign petitions to demand a new, unbiased and fully empowered investigation.

    Why is this important if 9/11 is such "old news?"

    Because my dear friend, the entire planet is still suffering from the effects of 9/11! The lies of 9/11 still affect policy and economic decisions. Wars continue to be started or threatened because of it. The Al Qaeda (CIA) boogie man keeps us all afraid, when we should really be looking at Wall Street bankers and their greedy motives.

    If our government was behind 9/11 as a false flag operation, then can we trust our government to help us out? Are they working instead for the corporations and "to hell with the little people?"

    Band together to create parallel institutions. If the bad guys have cornered the News Media, create our own news media—competition, but don't sell out to the bad guys. Keep it worker-owned, not Wall Street owned.

    1. GoGreenTips profile image62
      GoGreenTipsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Thank You! great answer and I agree 100%.

  6. pagesvoice profile image85
    pagesvoiceposted 5 years ago

    Now that I addressed MickS and his prickly barbs at educating the rest of us, I'll answer your question. People always like to blow off steam and in doing so they say things that are reactionary and really have no merit. For instance, just look at how many have said they will move to Canada surrounding the passage of the Affordable Health Care Act...only to later realize Canada has socialized medicine. I love that one. The United States of America has been built upon varying views and ideals, but it is still the land of opportunity. All one need do is look at how many come here and become American citizens. Oops...there I go...I referenced 'America" again.

  7. SportsBetter profile image76
    SportsBetterposted 5 years ago

    I might criticize America, as of right now I'm still allowed to.  The reason for it is because maybe something will change.

    I don't want to leave the US, I was born and raised here, I have my whole family here.  I know nothing is going to change, but this is my country and I'm not leaving. 

    One day though, it will collapse, along with the world.

    1. SportsBetter profile image76
      SportsBetterposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      We are the most corrupt country in the world, we run the corruption in the world, for now.

  8. ChristinS profile image94
    ChristinSposted 5 years ago

    you can love your country and want it to improve.  Just because we see things that could be done better or differently doesn't mean we should have to leave or that we don't love our country.  When a relationship is broken, a mature person doesn't just leave, they do what they can to improve the problems and make the relationship stronger.  When you love somebody lets say with a drug habit - it isn't hateful when you tell the person you need to make some changes.  When I see this country failing in certain areas, it doesn't make me unpatriotic to challenge it.  It's easy to cheer for your country and never look at it critically.  It's the same as enabling someone in my eyes, to see your country going astray and say nothing for fear of not being labeled "patriotic enough".  We all love our country - just because we don't love everything about it - doesn't mean we don't love it.  It isn't all or nothing and there is room here for everyone.

  9. Xenonlit profile image59
    Xenonlitposted 5 years ago

    Because that would be a stupid thing to do. Instead, we stay and fight when we do not like what is going on.  Only the weak and wrong want their opponents to just pack up and leave.

  10. Express10 profile image87
    Express10posted 5 years ago

    People do enjoy complaining or whining about things because it's easier than finding a solution and implementing it. I would imagine that some stay here because their family is not willing to go abroad with them. Others stay because they want to help create change. Every country has it's issues just as we do, but here we are free to discuss them in public and private. They know there's no place like home, don't let the complaints fool you into thinking they don't care or that they belong elsewhere. Complaints often bring about positive change. I agree with Xenonlit and ChristinS.

  11. a49eracct profile image61
    a49eracctposted 5 years ago

    The biggest problem is work. Not only is it difficult to get a work visa for being a non-citizen, you have to learn their language, their way of life, their laws, convert all your money (not mention get it there to one of their banks). Then you have to find a job- and with the whole world in financial trouble it just doesn't make sense to do anything but stay put.

  12. profile image0
    Wayne Eastonposted 5 years ago

    'Home is where the heart is' there's I suppose little point in staying in a country if  the individual's being critical of it's social institutions without being constructive in changing things for the better.
    Speaking personally, obviously no country is anywhere near perfection in the great scheme of things. I suppose getting a majorative consensus in what's best for all in a nation is an unobtainable goal, so many are still going to lose out.
    Many are negative about my own country from within our borders, & I admit there are things I don't like but I still love Scotland and apart from our at times rubbish weather I'd not live anywhere else.
    I do think though many feel disenfranchised  whether on a personal level or when they view the national situation, how they change this set of affairs is a moot point.
    It must be quite disheartening wanting to change or influence a political system when one looks at how it's funded or perceived by Joe Bloggs on the street.
    That said it's all too easy to moan about things in general while overlooking the positive aspects/attributes in life or of a country.

  13. profile image0
    Old Empresarioposted 5 years ago

    America is not a country. It's a continent. If you're referring to the United States, I would say that lots of people who reach retirement age and who have saved enough money are leaving. It is true that this is the freest nation in the world. It is also true that this is a good nation in which to become rich or live rich. However, this is not the best country in which to live. Education is an embarrassment and our healthcare costs are too high. The food available in our stores can hardly be considered proper nourishment. We pay high taxes in order to fund a massive military force that still loses all of its wars.

  14. stanwshura profile image74
    stanwshuraposted 5 years ago

    Yeah, no prob.  Just pick up and go.  Leave what you love about , and what's REAL about America behind: the people, the urban and intellectual centers, the jazz, just because some jackholes call themselves real Americans for falling in lockstep behind a dog-eat-dog, what's-mine-ain't-yours-so-fluck-off-and-don't-touch-mah-guns idealogy that pretends that by waving some paint by number cloth we call our flag, they are better than everyone.

    Nuh-uh.  I think I'll stick around awhile and help make real change happen, and to keep the backwoods hayseeds who cry at a Willie Nelson song and tell their disobedient child a go out andof fahnd a switch so's tah get his whippin' - at the same time,  to dig the yankee doodle cotton out of their cauliflour ears, keep THEIR proper place, and close their crooked , buck-toothed mouths for one fruckin' second and LISTEN!  Maybe even do sommah that thar book lurnin' an' stuff!

 
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