Who is winning/who won the VP debate?

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  1. LauraGT profile image91
    LauraGTposted 5 years ago

    Who is winning/who won the VP debate?

  2. janshares profile image95
    jansharesposted 5 years ago

    Based on 12 questions, Biden 7, Ryan 3; two were draws or were not adequately addressed by both. However, I was completely turned off by Biden's dismissiveness and condescending attitude toward Ryan. I thought Ryan was cool, focused, and stayed more on point.

    1. LauraGT profile image91
      LauraGTposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Wow!  You were keeping good track!  smile

  3. gregoriom profile image74
    gregoriomposted 5 years ago

    None. Nobody sounds convincing to me. It's all just a game for them. That's why cartoonists make jokes of them on the newspapers. Nobody does anything

  4. Dennis AuBuchon profile image84
    Dennis AuBuchonposted 5 years ago

    Thanks for asking this question.  Both candidates had their moments and many will say that the debate was a draw and to some extent they are correct.  I was however completely turned off by the disrespect shown to Paul Ryan by Vice President Joe Biden.  Many of the reactions identified after the debate made the same comment.  Those who watched the debate will probably come to the same conclusion.  Whether this will mean anything is yet to be determined.

    In terms of the position on the issues the response of the Vice-President in basically making statements about the response to the issues by Congressman Ryan was not in good taste.  Individuals can disagree with positions held by other individuals but the manner of response in many cases was not appropriate.

    Several issues and objectives it appeared by both candidates to have the same objective but a different path to achieve it.  In the end I believe Paul Ryan showed his character in the manner in which he conducted himself during the debate.  While there were some issues in the reaction to statements by Ryan from Vice President Joe Biden to some extent he had a command of the facts.
    I believe both individuals are men of character and men of character can disagree on issues and their solutions it is the manner of the response that makes the difference.  Overall I feel the debate was a good opportunity for the public to understand the positions of the candidates on the issues and how they would work to resolve them.  It will be up to the voting public to determine which path the country will take in this election.

    Granted a Vice-Presidential candidate will not necessarily impact how individuals will vote but it is important to come to the conclusion that each support the position of their running mates.  It is also important to gain a perspective of whether a vice-presidential candidate can take over as President should the situation arise.  There are times as we have seen in the past where a Vice-President had to make decisions when the President was not capable to do so.  Having the trust of the public to have the capability is an important criteria in a running mate.

  5. point2make profile image80
    point2makeposted 5 years ago

    I thought Biden was super aggressive and that can be a fine line to walk. He may have scored more debate "points" but if the majority of the viewers remember his aggressiveness more than his substance then he cancels himself out.

  6. ahorseback profile image77
    ahorsebackposted 5 years ago

    I have never seen such a disrespecting spectacle ! I have said for years that Biden is a fool in a suit . The epitamy of politics today . An empty agenda , no real record of accomplishment of substance .......Ryan won simply by being there . A draw ?  A joke !  Close .....not !

  7. Attikos profile image78
    Attikosposted 5 years ago

    Biden was certainly the more entertaining of the two. Aggressive rudeness is red meat for the demwit dog pack, and so he fed them. He went to the stage partly with that in mind, the party's immediate tactical need being to counter its foot soldier's depression in the wake of Romney's route of Obama in Debate I, so Biden did that much.

    Ryan's relative calm and reason appealed to people interested in his ideas of what is needed to reform some federal bad habits. In giving them what they like, he too succeeded in reaching an objective. His retardican voters eat a different diet than Biden's demwits, and he stuck to his menu.

    Neither peeled any votes away from the other side. Both bolstered those already in their respective camps.

    Biden had the greater burden. He was asked to destroy Ryan and the Romney campaign's platform in last night's debate. He did not do that, and it was a bridge too far to ask it of him. From that perspective, he did not achieve his side's strategic goal. Ultimately he lost this because he was given an unrealistic battle plan and was unable to work a miracle. He needed more than the stalemate he got.

    This should embarrass those who condemned Jim Lehrer for what they claimed was his overindulgence of Romney in Debate I, though. He was far better a moderator than Raddatz, who sat compliantly as Biden interrupted 82 times (yes, someone actually counted them).

  8. profile image0
    Justsilvieposted 5 years ago

    I thought the debate Facilitator was excellent. It was a lot more interesting then the Obama - Romney Debate.

    Ryan fully convinced me his is not someone I would want to see handle our foreign policy...nor fill the presidents shoes if somehting happened. He seems more worried about crawling up Bibis butt than what is good for this country.

    Biden laughed to much, but through the laughs, I saw someone who really was concerend about the direction we should take and the average citizen.

    As they say VP debates rarely make a difference, but I hope last night energy spills into the next one.

    1. Attikos profile image78
      Attikosposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Ryan had two opponents last night: Biden, and Raddatz. She gave JB free rein to butt in at will, and she herself frequently joined him in interrupting Ryan. She earned IOUs for her career in the progressive press, but that isn't excellence.

  9. profile image0
    JThomp42posted 5 years ago

    My opinion is that Biden won the debate hands down. His years of being in politics made Ryan look like a frustrated, stammering school boy.

  10. Wesley Clark profile image60
    Wesley Clarkposted 5 years ago

    I would think that most pundits would say that VIce President Biden won, with the caveat, he might have won the battle, but lost the war.

    As I review the debate, what personally comes to mind is how would everyone respond if Mitt Romney had a similar debate with President Obama and did a "Biden" on the President?

    Next,  the Vice President is a heart beat away from being President.  What I saw didn't show Presidential material.  I can just imagine "President" BIden sitting down with say, Vladimir Putin, discussing their differences and acting the same way with Putin as he did Ryan.

    Condescending arrogannce is not an impressive trait in any individual.  I would have rather had the Vice President, speak from the standpoint of "wisdom", of a seasoned political veteran, rather than denegrating smiles and smirks.

    Due to the Vice President's age, I thought he would be more warm, addressing the issues, speaking on behalf of the democratic party in a respectable manner, as he did in his debate with Sarah Palin.

    Perhaps his demeanor was due to President Obama's less than stellar performance in the first debate and he needed to come out with guns blazing to show that they (democratic ticket) means business and aren't going to be so easily shoved around.

    Whatever the case, those who have already "chosen" their candidate were either pleased, or not pleased with their respective candidate's performance.  Those who are still undecided, may opt for the Republican ticket, rather than the Democrat due to Vice President Biden's performance.  That's called losing the war.

  11. Angela Kane profile image75
    Angela Kaneposted 5 years ago

    Biden by a long shot. Ryan seems to have his lies and answers scripted and he was unprepared for what Biden was going to say and respond. Ryan thought his lies and misinformation were going to go unchallenged like Romney's, but he was in for a rude awakening. The moderator was also much better and didn't allow anyone to control the conversation.

  12. mrpip profile image61
    mrpipposted 5 years ago

    Biden!! Read my hub on the same topic to find out why.

 
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