What factors account for the increase of nationalist and hate groups in the Unit

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   gmwilliamsposted 11 years ago

   What factors account for the increase of nationalist and hate groups in the United States at the
   
   present time?
   
   

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   d.williamposted 11 years ago

   Since my comments regarding the perils of religions in our society causes many of my comments to be censured, i will attempt to answer that question in a manner that is the least offensive as possible.
   The greatest negatives that influence our society in general stem from hatred, intolerance, bigotry, distrust of others, and much more, are rooted in the fundamental teachings of an erroneous belief system that most religious philosophies embrace as some kind of absolute truth.
   This video will explain in detail why these teaching are more harmful to society than they are beneficial:  http://youtu.be/JoZW5JQ0AE4. 
   There is no other explanation, other than the fallacious beliefs that somehow the Devil is involved, which is the main theme in defending those belief systems that primarily harm society as a whole.

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      Ralph Deedsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Nearly all religions foster divisiveness, and extreme fundamentalists encourage hatred and terrorism.

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   Larry Wallposted 11 years ago

   I am not sure the number of such groups have increased. I just think they get more publicity than they use to, so it seems like more. Also, some hate groups are really just one person pretending to represent a larger number of like-minded individuals.

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      gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      THEY are increasing in number and they are dangerous.  I saw a program stating that there are many such people who are unaffiliated.

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      Larry Wallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      gmwilliams, I did not say there were not more nationalist and hateful people in the country. I said I did not think the number of organized groups had increased over the years. The number of hateful people is a different story.

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   sheilamyersposted 11 years ago

   I'm not sure if they're growing or not, but I've noticed more and more young people (as individuals or small groups) showing hatred toward people. This is a generalization and I know it doesn't apply to a large portion of the population, but ... To me it seems kids aren't being taught to respect their fellow human beings. When I was growing up, a lot of people talked about who they hated and what they were going to do to "fix the problem" (whatever they saw as the problem). Today, more young people act out on their threats. Is it the parent's lack of training their children? Are the kids being influenced by such things in music and movies? I still haven't figured it out.

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      gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You are so right.

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   LandmarkWealthposted 11 years ago

   I haven't seen any stats that suggest they are increasing in numbers.  But then again I haven't looked.  But in hindsight the Blank Panthers assassinated 13 NYPD officers in one year back in the early 70's, (one was my uncles partner...Officer Phil Cardillo rest in peace). And groups like the KKK were marching all over the place just years before that.  So I am not sure if the numbers are much worse or not.  But it's hard to imagine anything worse than the race riots of the early 70's
   
   If they are, I would personally link it to the lack of assimilation in our immigration process.  When my grandparents came to America, they were not well received by many ethnic groups.  Particularly the Irish.  They weren't permitted to get their haircut in certain barbershops.  They couldn't get jobs in many areas because of their Italian heritage.  If you walked through an Irish neighborhood, you might leave in a body bag.  This landed my great uncle Pete in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. 
   
   But my grandparents made sure all their kids spoke English first.  They self identified as Americans first and foremost.  They embraced every aspect of American culture.  Because regardless of the discrimination they faced, it was still better than the facist regime they fled in Italy.  And eventually their kids and grandkids became just Americans.   Today, we don't require or even expect people that come to our country to embrace American culture or even require they speak English.  So often you'll see second and third generations that still identify their culture as the place where their parents came from.  That is unhealthy for the society, and people don't assimilate.  They get isolated in their own cultural communities, and they view others as outsiders.  And hence those outside their community look at them as foreigners, even after they've been here 2-3 generations.  It breeds mistrust and resentment.
   
   Living here in NY you see this more than most places.  I hade to drive into Flushing Queens a few months back.  You can't buy a pack of gum there unless you speak Korean.  And it's been like that for decades.  It's crazy.  When I was a kid, many people spoke Italian where I lived.  But they all spoke English.  And they all saw themselves as American first.   So, I wouldn't doubt that their could be a rise of groups that identify along ethnic and racial lines.

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      Borsiaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I saw some stats showing a 70% increase over 15 years

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      LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Could be...I don't know.  But the violence here in the US is nothing like the race riots of the 70's.

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      Borsiaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The highest point for violent crime was 1980 & 1990 going by the highest crime rates. But organizations / groups dedicated to hate have risen

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      LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I am talking specifically about race related riots and the chaos of the 70's...cop cars getting overturned...entire city blocks set on fire. 13 cops assassinated in one year. A lot of it was unreported because it was such chaos.

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      Borsiaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes we had huge race related problems when I was in high school in the early 70s. In many ways it ruined the high school experience for everyone. There were at minimum 2 riots every year and tensions all the time. That was in CA. Much worse elsewhere

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   GNelsonposted 11 years ago

   I would have to talk to these groups to answer your question but here are some thoughts about how these groups form. 
   Modern technology makes it easier to form a group and to communicate with your followers.
   We live in a sound bite world.  Very few actions are truly explained either by government, individuals, corporations or hate groups.  Justifying hate is a simple process of putting together a few sound bites.
   Individuals today do not take the time to reflect.  I hear the same arguments from different people all the time or I should say the same sound bites.  They haven’t thought about what they are saying, they just repeat what they heard.  Reflection requires time alone and an open mind both are hard to find in today’s environment.
   When was the last time you saw a child lying on the grass and watching the stars come out, talking about whatever comes to mind?  Today they would be texting friends, even the one lying next to them.

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   mintinfoposted 11 years ago

   My opinion is that society has reached an idealism buffer where one particular culture that had spent centuries assimilating others finds itself about to be overrun by the ideals of cultures that it failed to properly assimilate. This dominant culture is now in a process of circling the wagon to try to protect its remaining ideals. However, I fear that the Melting Pot has already fallen off the fire and must be rescued by a new form of thinking or succumb to the flames of eternal racism.

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   Borsiaposted 11 years ago

   A large part of it has to do with the Federal Government's complete lack of enforcement of immigration laws. There are now something like 25 million illegals and they want to make it worse with another amnesty bill. America is rapidly becoming a 3rd world country.
   In the very near future the US Dollar will loose its status as the international currency standard, the writing is n the wall for anyone willing to read it.
   Another is that immigrant groups, especially illegals, make no attempts to assimilate to US society and go so far as to expect the country to coddle them.
   Add to that that the dominant races are becoming the minorities and you have lots of room for hatred to grow.
   As others have mentioned technology makes it easier to find like minds and form groups.
   Perhaps the final plank is the general downfall of the country as a whole and the collapse of virtually all manufacturing and blue collar jobs.
   The majority of the hate group members come from this sector and they have been hardest hit by the influx of illegal immigration and, being the least educated, the easiest to gather by the techniques used by organizers.
   Right now the country is a powder keg looking for a spark.

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      gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      What you have said is true.  With jobs being downsized, computerized, and/or sent overseas, blue collar jobs are more adversely impacted. Many of those who rely on such jobs see their world disappearing, they are THE NEW poor.

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