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Who's "Southern Heritage" Does The Confederate Flag Represent? Whites, Blacks, I

  1. vveasey profile image84
    vveaseyposted 2 years ago

    Who's "Southern Heritage" Does The Confederate Flag Represent? Whites, Blacks, Indians etc?

    Doesn't it seem like, when supporters say it represents "Southern Heritage", they're talking about white southerner's heritage? Doesn't that heritage include, slavery, white supremacy and racial prejudice?

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  2. Austinstar profile image85
    Austinstarposted 2 years ago

    It's not a "Southern Heritage" thing. The Stars and Bars was the official flag of the Confederacy. That state has been disbanded because they lost the civil war. The flag should not be flown and it represents a defunct government.

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    Larry Wallposted 2 years ago

    The flag should not be flown on public buildings or facilities and should not be flow with the American Flag.

    However, the confederate flag is a part of our history, a tragic part. We see a swastika and we know it means Hitler, killing of Jews, efforts to rule the world and Hitler. Most do not support those actions, but they are part of history, and nearly everyone can recognize the Nazi flag.

    The Confederate flag is a symbol for dividing the union, allowing slavery and denying rights to black people. We cannot ignore that part of history.

    The Confederate flag belongs in museums, with adequate explanation. You are not going to eliminate it because it falls under the category of free speech. We can keep them off of public buildings. I do not think we can force states that have the confederate flag as part of its state flag to change it. They can be encouraged to change it.

    The Civil War was a dark chapter in our history. We cannot ignore it, but it should not be part of any state flag or flown with the American flag.

    1. ChristinS profile image95
      ChristinSposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I completely agree with this.  We should never forget history or try to erase it, but we definitely shouldn't keep this flag flying over state buildings when it is offensive to so many.

  4. gmwilliams profile image84
    gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago

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    To Blacks, the Confederate flag is akin to the National Socialist flag to Jews.  It is a symbol of racism, ethnocentrism, & oppression.  The Confederate flag is a symbol of Southern Caucasian supremacy.  It further symbolized the concept of Caucasian "superiority" & "homogeny" over those who are not Caucasian such as Blacks, Asians, Latinos, & Native Americans.

    To some Caucasians, the Confederate flag is what the South used to be.  They see the Confederate flag as a quintessential symbol of Southern culture & gentility.  To them, the South is a perfect universe where people supposedly knew their place according to strict racial, class, education, & gender lines.  They felt that the South was better off when there was Caucasian dominance in all aspects of sociopolitical, sociocultural, & religious lives.  They see that Confederate flag as a symbol of what was and pine for "the good old days" where people were in their respective, preordained places.  There are other Caucasians of a more Liberal bent who detest the Confederate flag & view it as a symbol of racist oppression.  They want nothing to do what that flag, seeing it as a negative relic of an inglorious past which ought to be eliminated once & for all.

    Latinos view the Confederate flag is a symbol of Caucasian supremacy. They saw Caucasians taking territory which originally belonged to them, subsequently denigrating their culture, language, & lifestyle.  To many Latinos, the Confederate flag was the symbol of Caucasian racism & assertion of Caucasian superiority over their culture & identity.  Native Americans view it as a symbol of the genocide which was committed against their people, language, & culture.  They see this flag as encroaching upon what was their land.

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      Larry Wallposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      You are giving a modern-day meaning to a flag.  It may carry that meaning today, but its original intent was to represent southern sovereignty. Today some see it as a reminder of the charm of the "Old South."  It is a dark part of history.

    2. vveasey profile image84
      vveaseyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Brilliant Analysis!
      The Flag also represents treason against the United States.
      "Southern" Heritage leaves out the heritage  of non white southerners!

    3. gmwilliams profile image84
      gmwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your response! The Confederate flag does negate non-Caucasian Southerners.

    4. Austinstar profile image85
      Austinstarposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      And the Nazi flag is also a "dark part of history". It is illegal to fly the Nazi flag in Germany and it should be illegal to fly the stars&bars in America. It's a symbol of Southern stupidity, hatred and oppression. Give it up already!

    5. gmwilliams profile image84
      gmwilliamsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The Confederate flag is a very dark part of history.  It symbolizes oppression and racism. However, there are those who see the Confederate flag as a "symbol" of the "good old days" of the South where segregation and racial demarcation were rampant.

    6. vveasey profile image84
      vveaseyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Are these people who pine for the "good Ole days" delusional?
      The "good ole days" for white supremacy"  The "bad ole days" for black subjugation"

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      Larry Wallposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Every southerner did not own slaves. Every southerner was not a bigot, but few express those views. The war was about states right and slavery. It was was an effort to divide the nation. The confederacy would had never survived.

    8. vveasey profile image84
      vveaseyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Here's a link to an article about what the Vice President of the Confederacy said about slavery https://cwemancipation.wordpress.com/20 … one-speec/

  5. dashingscorpio profile image87
    dashingscorpioposted 2 years ago

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    The original confederate flag is not the one most recognized today. It contained 7 stars to represent the original Confederate States; South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas.
    The "battle flag" carried by the Confederate army gets the most attention. Much of this "southern heritage" discussion is misplaced.
    The South Carolina flag was not placed at the capital building until the (1960s) when the civil rights movement was growing in response to laws getting rid of segregation. It was also carried by the KKK.
    It's not as if the flag was placed there in the 1800s and was suddenly being argued to be taken down. It was in response to  1960s changes.
    The history of the civil war is really about a group of states that decided they wanted to break away from the United States.
    Today if something like that were to happen the people involved would be considered  traitors or domestic terrorists. Every person in the military takes an oath to protect this country from both foreign and domestic terrorism.
    Flying the confederate flag on government property would be the equivalent of Berlin, Germany flying a Nazi swastika flag claiming pride of their heritage!
    Both flags are better suited for museum display.

    1. vveasey profile image84
      vveaseyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Right!
      What they did back then was treason that's one of the reasons for the war. The other was, to protect the rich white slave plantations' lucrative profits, in the lucrative business of the African Slave Trade. States Rights.= The Slave Trade!

 
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