I've several times mentioned elsewhere that it would maybe show liberal activists how silly but aggressive their agendas are by doing a parody of it.
At any rate, fair is fair either way, so I'd have a right to make my own version of an agenda, one that would stick up for my rights and others who are similar.
I think it would have to have a very long name....like...
The Poor White Straight Hillbilly Christians' Turn to Whine (Falsely or Maybe NOT) About Being Oppressed and Harrassed by Racists and Other Groups ...Caucus.
Has quite a ring to it, huh?
liberal agenda activists? where? those fiends....
that "PWSHCTWABOHROG" was kind of funny though. i like you Brenda. don't ask me why, but i do.
Love it, absolutely love it. Should you consider a petition (which seems to be a biggy for those folks) I'll definitely sign it. Best, Sis
What's the point of this ridiculous thread?
I wish I understood this I feel so out of the loop...
They're all for defending whoever's popular at the moment, not whoever actually has a legitimate complaint.
I guess you should read some compositions on race issues then....stop by and check them out...
Then we can discuss who truly has the agenda...
I checked one out. Your article, not the videos yet 'cause I'm on hubby's computer, not mine, and it doesn't work as well.....
I am initially totally unconvinced, and will of course remain so. I don't doubt your experience with the issue, nor do I doubt that you believe you're right. Likewise, neither do I doubt my own knowledge and witness of events both religious and concerning civil rights.
I'm not sure what you mean by "who truly has the agenda".
I know that my agenda is a call for common sense to the part of America that seems to have lost all semblance of it.
Oh but I MUST ask why!
hmm..never mind; probably not answerable; it's sufficient that I'm liked by someone...anyone.....haha
Awesome! Thank you habee. I like you too!
I think it's one thing we all agree on; Everyone likes Brenda.
Would I be out of line if I were to ask why so many people are worried about (Republican/Democrat, Liberal/Conservative); rather than focusing on MAJOR problems such as an 11 trillon dollar debt, the exploytation of America and it's constitution by illegal immigrants, the fall of social morality in our schools..... the list goes on and on. Can someone explain that to me?
Cuz Tiger cheated on his wife and Kate and John are divorcing and etc...
No, you wouldn't be out of line.
I've asked the same question for years! Ever since, actually, years ago I saw a press conference of George Bush's, where he was talking to America about the beginnings of the War, and a gay activist group's spokesperson butted in asking him about gay "rights". George cut 'im off with a single statement, as he so rightly should've. These days we have no such focused President, nor are many Americans focused on the important issues. That's one reason for my parody.
Because there's been a power grab going on and everyone wants their piece of the pie. Our elected representatives are the world's greatest thespians. They stomp their feet and beat their chests, call the president a liar, tell us what they think the world wants us to hear, and pretend they despise the opposition.
I'd bet my bottom dollar that if you put Senator's Reid and McCain alone in a room together they would chuck it up like they were best friends but then put them alone and in front of a camera and they'll show us the knife they stuck in the others back.
Our biggest problem in this country is that we keep putting the same jackasses back in office. Historically, incumbency in the H.R. has been above 90% and above 85% in the Senate and historically after reelection they point fingers at the opposition and tell us they're going to "fix it" this time.
Why do we keep voting them back into office? Back to my original point, everyone wants their piece of the pie!
We Americans need to step up and clean our house, put the trash to the curb and do our civic duties.
How do we do that?
I'm all for it; but tell me how the average person can do that?
In general, we have no public voice.
You might be right about McCain and Reid, all of 'em, but who's gonna be any better? An Independent Party nominee? A Libertarian? I think not.
The Republican Party Platform isn't broken; it's just got people in power who refuse to commit to the values the Party stands for.
Where does the average citizen go, what do we say, what do we do, to really make a difference, to really start "fixing" the mess?
The fringe always gets upset at their own party when it inevitably drifts to the middle when it's in power. The same is true with Democrats and Republicans. Neither is as "activist" as the fringe would like them to be when they're campaigning in the primaries.
Brenda if you think you have no voice then why even bother? The fact is you do have a voice and you start in your own neighborhood. Get involved in the party in your own town and start making a difference where you live. You have to start at home before you can think national. Republican, Democrat, party affiliation means nothing as long as you believe in the candidate or yourself.
Local politics starts with small voices but the group gets larger and the more you get your neighbors and friends involved the louder that voice gets.
If you don't think so, then explain to me how a grassroots organizer moves up to become an Illinois state Senator then a US Senator and then President in less than a decade and a half?
Federal legislators will never vote for term limits. Senator Jim DeMint (SC) has a term limit bill but it's getting little support from his peers. If we want to get term limits put in place we have to go local. We use what's called "ballot initiative" where we get a petition running to have it voted on at the state level (grassroots)
I think we forget that the people we send to Washington are NOT OUR LEADERS they're supposed to be our REPRESENTATIVES and the longer we let them stay the more those representatives believe they are our leaders.
Brenda, I considered starting a magazine called WHAM! White Heterosexual American Male; several people want it published but wonder if it would be allowed in America now. I know there's Ebony for black women, the Advocate for gay men, etc. There are black colleges, women's colleges, but it's illegal to have one for whites or men.
Just a little correction: all-male colleges are not illegal in the United States. They still exist.
Also, go ahead and start your magazine. There is no law against it, either.
WHAM sounds like a great idea!
The heck with the new liberal "rules" and anyone who might oppose such a normal magazine......they're just intolerant.
wasn't there a two-man group called Wham in the 80's? I'm just saying....
PrettyPanther, are they allowed to literally exclude a woman if she applies?
Denno, I considered "Straight White American Male" but SWAM really gives the wrong idea! :-)
How bout Male Ideologists Like Freedom...Yeah, MILF, um, never mind.....
South Park did an episode with an organization called whose acronym unfortunately produced NAMBLA. The boys were confused.
So true! People have asked me why I never remarried but really...I've had a husband and raised five boys, my home already is testosterone-soaked! What's wrong with a little break?
The stated point is "to tick off the liberal agenda activists".
possibly, you're exactly one of those far leftists they're radically baiting in these dastardly threads! get out now! while you've still got your chops!
sooner than later,
I'm only half-serious with this thread...
but that's a big half.
I've called my State Reps (and actually other States' Reps like Orrin Hatch's office, because some of MY State Reps are too weeniefied to speak out), and I speak out when I can. I also am trying to get involved in the local Party....seems like every time I try, something else comes up. As far as reeeealy local....the small town I live in has a bully triad for "leaders" and indeed I and several other citizens have taken steps to rectify that situation (which maddens me that the bully triad says it's Republican...I think they've retained that label because it's the popular one in this area; they're actually just tyrants.)
Anyway, my major disappointment is that the Federal Reps are so unreachable! Government is so big, and much of it corrupt, that the little citizen really seems to have no say at all in Federal matters, especially when local Reps and Senators simply go their own political way instead of listening to what's right.
You're right about Obama moving up quickly, but he had an agenda for wedging himself into power. I don't. The average citizen doesn't. The average citizen expects our elected leaders to DO THEIR JOBS, not us have to take time away from our jobs and families and daily lives to do THEIR jobs while they get paid to play games.
Brenda, I live in Chicago and I'm very active in local and state politics. I'm not running for office or anything but I do campaign for people in my party. I shake hands every single day just so they know who I am. I'm in city hall every day(not in a political way) and I'm in daily contact with city alderman and several state legislators. I've joined groups and organizations that are full of like minded individuals and during campaign season we go door to door handing out literature to inform our candidates take on the issues.
I tell you this because there is no bigger bullies in politics than those that come from Chicago, it's a tough "Machine" to turn off. Nevertheless, our group consistently gets our "guy" elected.
Calling on the phone is not going to get you anywhere especially with a guy like Hatch. I mean, come on how are you going to tell a 30 year veteran Senator how to do HIS job?
As for your local bully triad, start rallying your friends and neighbors and start a political action group that meets at your public library(make it a 501(c)3 so you can take donations), get a nice size group together and hold some kind of citizen watchdog party. Inform the press and get the bullies on camera to respond to your requests and inquiries (or even better, their refusal to respond). In other words, become a bigger bully. You might even want to search out national groups that are also looking for local partners like getliberty.org.
Yes, it's a lot of work for one individual that has a full time job and family but if you spread the load, get all your family members involved and your friends and neighbors, it gets easier.
You can't be the "average" citizen. The average citizen is why we are in this mess. We need to be above average citizens who go our and make things happen instead of sitting around waiting for things to happen.
I didn't try to tell Orrin Hatch how to do his job; I commended him (well, his secretary who answered the phone..ha...even he wasn't personally accesssible) on the job he's been doing! Hatch is one of the few leaders with some real guts. But YES, I would dare to try to tell a veteran Senator how to do his job, because it's people like me who also pay his salary and it's people like me he/they should be representing! How? In plain, strong words. But yeah it seems to do no good. I tried it with those Reps of mine, and they're hard-headed fools who apparently only listen to whoever's got a huge bank account or public image.
Some of us in town did start a kind of political action committee. It's called CAT (Citizens Against Tyranny). It's rather slow, but we've been able to take some of the same kinds of actions you recommended in order to start the process of ousting the bully triad. I wouldn't call that being a bigger bully by any means; I call it exercising the rights we have as citizens to KNOW what's going on and demand transparency and adherence to the oaths of office the officials took.
You are an above average citizen then and we need more to be like you. That's good that you've started your group, you should also make a website for it (.org or .net is available) and continue with a civil public relations campaign. It is a slow process but eventually it can reach out to nearby communities and who knows from there. If your PAC stays true you might even have Hatch come to you if invited.
I feel pretty helpless with politics at the national level but I see things getting accomplished at the local level every day. And for me, these small local accomplishments let me believe that the system our founders put in place really does work. At the local level, I see immediate response to our efforts. I can't say that for the national system.
Here's a question for you.
Is there some way you can find out WHY Blagojevich took the fall for......Obama, maybe, or whoever the heck he took the fall for?
Or if he really did take a fall for anyone but himself?
I think he did. How else would his appointee Roland Burris get into office without Blago's being involved in a plan to make sure a black man replaced Obama's vacant Senate seat?
And can you please start an investigation into those murders of members of Rev. Wright's Church, you know, the gay guys who turned up dead; and see how it's related to the story of the gay guy who swears he had sexual relations with Obama.
You said you're involved in politics, not police work, but hey those are very valid questions about what's happened in Chicago. After all, Obama has carried Chicago-style politics into the White House. What else am I to assume but that he acted the same gangster-style way while living in Chicago?
No one is untouchable. Obama, in particular, should be totallly transparent. But indeed he is not, nor has any intention of being.
LOL no comment on Blago, I think everything speaks for itself on that issue. No comment on Obama's sexuality either...who knows? The ones that might know are now dead.
Yes we do indeed have Chicago style politics in the white house. You can look this up but the way he became a US Senator was by challenging the petitions of candidacy of his opponents and all 4 of them were removed from the ballot (That's old school machine at work, they can't beat you if they can't run)...
LOL transparency was just a good power phrase during the campaign. Where are all those C-SPAN open door discussions?
That's what I mean.
Obama's not just a man who couldn't keep a few of his Campaign promises.
He's a man who engages in tactics like lying, bribery, manipulations, insulting, verbal strong-arming, and too many underhanded practices to get what he wants.
WHY hasn't he been ousted already?
....Too many are still blinded by his black skin.
Dubya also had at least some good principles, and a heart.
The O exhibits neither.
He's like a robot; and a pawn of the Devil at that. Apparently willingly.
Yes, I don't doubt he may have been a likeable guy outside of the suit, but, having Dick Cheney as a right-hand man hurt his image considerably.
It's not whether he's likable or not. It's whether he has any principles.
Oh, well, Cheney may've been a bumbling inept person, but he also has some principles.
I've heard all about how corrupt Bush and Cheney were. Who knows who's telling the truth about any of it?
I expect and demand transparency from ALL of them. (Though, of course, none of them would ever listen to demands from a peon like me).
If...Obama wants the Bush Administration investigated and held accountable for all the perceived wrongs they did,
Then the Obama Administration should be investigated and held accountable for their hogwash as well.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm totally sick of hearing the "great" Obama make accusations on his predecessors, and watching him manipulate everyone on BOTH SIDES of the aisle, and especially I'm tired of hearing him say he "inherited" everything from the chip on his shoulder to the financial collapse. He's immature, cruel, crude, unpatriotic, foolish, unsafe, creepy, immoral.......the list is way too long for a President of the U.S.
Democracy may be on your side in 2012. Who knows? Personally, I think they're all idiots. The times are a' changin'
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