Is your life really yours?
Hey Hubbers,
Seriously, I'm doing a little added research for a Hub I am writing and need a little input.
When you were younger - Your parents guided you.
As you got older - You were guided by school.
Here in between - If religious- You were again guided by a book.
As you got older - You were guided by an employer.
Along your entire life, You are guided by Law(s) created by Government.
So, I ask you - When does your life truly become yours?
Feel free to chat to bring up any part that you feel comfortable with sharing.
I do ask that you remain civilized and leave the insults out. If you have a direct question, I'll do my best to give you an honest reply.
Thank you for your time.
CagsilNeat question Cags,
All along I have grown into my life. As a child, a student, a Christian, employee and even as a spouse. As a child, I needed protection. As a student, I needed education. But I was still becoming "me".
The choices in faith, employment and marriage were my choices to enter into. Within those choices I still have "me" and room to grow and own my life.
The choice to become a parent was the most dramatic and was the most sacrificial. But I would chose it all over again.
All these stages of life have had room for me to call my life my own, or make it my own.
Now the government....the taxed to death thing has me fit to be tied! Holly
I should add that I have spent much of my life self employed, nontraditional and considered uniqueI feel that in my opinion, my life is to be shared. I don't want to hold myself in, I like to be a part of something bigger. Just by interacting with others we make a portion of our lives belong to them and vice versa. Inside our minds we can be ourselves, and be free to roam our thoughts. That is the freedom I want and love. I can sit and roam my mind in piece alone. But once I get out in the world, my life isn't all mine any more, it's part of everyone I meet, part of everything I see and do. We're helped and guided for our benefit most of the time, and it doesn't really concern me, I like the fact that I've been taught and guided, without it I could never have developed my ideas in the way I have, and be who I am.
To sum up. Our lives are always ours. But we share them with others and with the world. In some places it may be forced, and negative, but for me, it's a great thing
Just my thoughtsWell, from my perspective, when you learn to listen to your self is what a mystical spiritual path is all about.
When you get to that point in life when you know you can't listen to anyone else any longer on certain aspects of life, you can seek that "Higher Self" that is your most virtuous level of consciousness of love. I call it the Christ Mind/God Mind. I beleive it is what Jesus came to teach us, but somehow it got all twisted into Jesus worship, instead of Him being the teacher and mediator to guide us as individuals to our portion of the Christ Mind, which he personified.
It's that mystery of letting go and letting God...that portion of God that is the energy of love of the Universe that we can all tap into, if we choose to let go of the ego's rule, our own or another's...and let "God" rule...get it?
Don't let others perceptions of who or what "God" is get you all twisted up.
I have learned to understand who and what "God" is, through many different belief systems... so can you.
You forgot about your wife guiding you your whole life, Gags
Wife, indicates "Marriage". Religious nonsense. Even the Civil Union? That's too funny too, but needed in a civilized society.
I mean, if we did away with all religious inclination, but kept Marriage, as it was suppose to be, then I wouldn't mind.
You also assume that a wife is the only guidance in the marriage. Sounds like a one-sided arrangement and I'm glad I'm not married.
LOL Cags, marriage back in USSR was completely secular, yet my former wife did guide me our whole life, until I escaped. Which actually started my liberation from other things in your list that guided me
This is highly unlikely, depending on the Country you were born and raised in.
However, your life is probably yours, but then again that also depends on other things too. Does your life negate the need for Law(s) to exist? Do you live within your conscience?
Just curious? I'm always asking questions to gain additional knowledge.
I see the future as a puzzle. One giant puzzle, broken into billions of pieces. When I take a piece and bring it to the forefront of my mind, I can break that piece down to it's singular component, so as to structure the foundation for that piece.
It's fun to do. And, keep me busy. I developed this ability all on my own, by truly understanding the meaning for human life.
Even religion gives you the basis for some ethical foundation of life, however, it's individual interpretation lacks any common-sense. And, not to mention, such a contradiction to life itself.
Interesting way of putting it. Thank you.
I hope you learned something good about me?
- lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago
0yes indeed.
Okay, let's not go over-board here. There is more to life than just love and light? I guess that would depend on what you reference "light" has for you sentence. I do understand that Love has a unique quality that can be used to help with the problem, but more self-responsibility for truth in life, would be better, before Government strips away life.
- nice.
I see you trying to get on my good side.
Rooting for my Cowboys, because your team failed. Awwww...come on now. What do you take me for? 
I was only pulling your leg. And, now you tell me that you use to root for the Cowboys, but you're a Giants fan now?????????
Loyalty to your team????? Where is that????? Come on????
Hey Lyrics, how are you?
and you?
- lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago0
your life is needed in community thread
Every day, I seek guidance, direction and wisdom form those who know me best or who know the field of study I am learning. It is all part of being me.
Without others, I would be a very boring, self absorbed little individual. Their guidance helps to widen my horizon, making available knowledge that I could not have of known other wise.
...okay, so there is clairvoyance, but even gathering knowledge that way is seeking guidance.
I am me because of the input of others. This does not mean that I live my life just to please them, or because they control me. My actions are based on love and respect for them.
I believe it is only respect for the law (or the consequence of breaking it) that keeps people obeying it. And, it is out of respect for my reader that I use spell check.- writebypenposted 15 years ago0
My life belongs to a bunch of kids of all ages, from adult children to grandchildren! I love it this way!
Thank you all for responding.
When you take control of your destiny and live your life by examples and not by what others believe you should do. I always try to lead others by the examples I make not allowing my beliefs, friends etc. get in my way.
Yes and I also believe in Fate but I still believe in God but that is not what we are discussing.
- blatvaposted 15 years ago0
- Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago0
When you are unemployed?
Think self-employment Crazd, take a business view to your life for a little while. It might change your outlook. Seriously.
Actually, I think was is being missed it the opportunity to become completely self-independent. This gives a freedom, especially if it's something you already love to do. I am sure you're creative enough to think of something.
Customers are not a problem if you give them something of value. This is more or less what I was thinking. I have been employed places that were much easier than working for my self ever will be. I came, did my job, and left. I got paid. No stress, just a bit of time. Self employment involved 14 hours a day, 6 days a week, and dirty diapers.
For me, that would be along the lines of homesteading, and someday it may happen. A debt free hermit. For now, I am happy with my six employers commonly referred to as family.
- Ghost32posted 15 years ago0
Strangely enough, I've felt my life was my own from almost the beginning. That may be pure (impure?) delusion, but true nonetheless.
There were exceptions: Until leaving home at age 17, I had plenty of resentment to go around--inborn stuff, not necessarily earned by those around me. And of course Sergeants in the Army and bosses at various places of employment told me what to do. Plus, there's all that "guidance" mentioned at the beginning of the thread.
But....
It has been my nature to pick and choose what guidance I would accept (some), what I would reject out of hand (quite a lot), and what I would go along with on the surface for pragmatic reasons such as avoiding prison or a knife fight with a guy wielding a machete (a humongous amount).
As many of my fellow Hubbers already know, Pam is my 7th wife. What has not been previously published here is the core reason why our marriage has succeeded where all previous attempts failed. Simply put, without going into all the background, it was this: I knew that abandoning her would be a death sentence.
And I found that was something I could not countenance. It was not "guidance" from any outside source that mandated this decision to commit for life (and quite possibly beyond) but something from deep within the core of Self, something that could neither be influenced by Others nor denied by me.
In that decision, I found what I believe to be true freedom. Certainly, with my wife's many and serious disabilities, I have my work cut out for me. One of my favorite literary characters states that, "Death is light as a feather, duty heavier than a mountain." I agree. I have found, however, that like Atlas, I have the shoulders to support that burden.
And despite that sizeable weight, I know--regardless of appearances--my life is truly my own.
Likewise, (AGAIN!) I've written a Hub and called it a Comment.... - PrettyPantherposted 15 years ago0
Interesting. Thank you Dyonder.
Well, I guess I just look at things differently. Thank you Ivorwen for your input.
You too Ghost32Not to be or sound, out of place, I find that statement quite opposite to what I've learned. I say that, because we are human beings first and foremost, and we are adaptable. The limitations one sets on oneself is the only obstacle.
I can understand how you can see things that way. But, I see the potential each has and sometimes I am saddened to see much of it wasted. Again, Thank you.Cags,
Are you inferring that she has wasted so much of her potential by not becoming something more? I would think one measure of a successful life is finding happiness, too. If I lived my life miserable to make someone else happy, I think I would feel short changed. Just wondering, HollyI am simply stating the case that many people squander their life, because they don't know any better. Many people waste their life, doing nothing of value, simply because they don't see their own potential.
I can honestly say, for a great many years, I did feel short changed. And, when I finally had the questions I had for my life, answered, it opened up an entirely different way of thinking.
I wasn't trying to detract from Ivorwen's life or how she lives. I was simply stating a fact that humans are adaptable and conform to any way of thinking and way of life. And, you know what- sometimes, those who can do one, can handle the other. As I said, I can understand how Ivorwen sees things.I thought that is what you meant, but I wanted to be sure. I see so many people "spending" their life away, then waking up hoodwinked, and angry. Those life changing answers are heady too when they happen. Being happy matters
Holly
Sheesh, I thought that was me!
i love your question Cags....I've had similar thoughts often.
But I do know one's mind is one place where one can be truly free and think...and believe and create whatever one chooses...and no one can 'own' it...No.
Destiny is a man-made myth.
I wasn't sure if I should answer this one, because I do sorta preach, but I preach about knowledge of life and not religion.
When human beings evolved consciousness - "god"/nature was no longer needed or required. We as an individual person are the masters of our own life and have an ability to adapt to our surroundings. Once, one puts their mind to accomplishing a task, it will get done. Given the effort is put forth to make it happen.
At least that's my thoughts on it.I am sure some will show up sooner or later. If not, oh well.
I don't see how you can have both....reincarnation and destinies. One is a finite destination or fixed ending and reincarnation is recycling of the "soul" or "spirit", which humankind actually doesn't have.
Soul and spirit are religious terminology, incorporated into words in our language. Neither have been proven to exist. The two terms describe the "essence" of a person and nothing more.
- StormRyderposted 15 years ago0
You know Ray, I guess this life really is mine.
I got it at WalMart and wasn't happy with it so I tried to return it for a refund. They wouldn't take it saying I had already opened it but could get an exchange...but all they had was a few homeless Haitians, a Korean dictator, and a Columbian drug lord...oh and one Puerto Rican transvestite. So I just went home with my original purchase and have been making due with it. -
Did you see how old this thread is?
Hi Stormy, how are you today? I'm sorry if I offended anyone!...Except any Korean dictators who may be following this thread.
I have been contacted by Kim Jung Il...he requested I remove my reference to Korean dictators, as he doesn't want to be connected to WalMart in any way...I refused of course!
Really Tantum? Wrong with me?
Why?
Have I just called a mass group of peaceful people, foolish?
I think you are mistaken.
You can curse me all you want. Write your hateful rhetoric, and post your spam. However at the end of the day, somebody has got to stand up to such hypocrisy, surrounded inept humor, to disguise its hate mongering. It is no wonder dear Tantum, that you gave up on Christianity long ago.
Next time you look to personally slam me, keep in my I have never claimed to be a perfect human. I expect you to be up to the task then.
Poor Tantum. Couldn't managed Christianity on her own. Too difficult to manage I guess. And you ridiculed me for my short comings....
Shall we play some more Tantum? Since you always play fair and without insult, shall we?
Well, then I would say people never understood Jesus to begin with.
- JeanMeriamposted 15 years ago0
- Pani Midnyte Odinposted 15 years ago0
My life has been mine all along, but I would give it for a cause.
- Kathryn LJposted 15 years ago0
it bothers me at times that I have to work for a living. I also hate not having any control over the happenings in life and being helpless to keep my children safe and healthy. There is only so much I can do. No, my life is not really mine. I do what I have to do to live and survive and to ensure the survival of my family. But thats what everyone does. This is the reality of every single person. But I know its all for something. So I grin and bear it.
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