Will you accept Jesus into your heart?
Don't you care about your immortal soul? Wouldn't you rather live in the light than in the darkness?
What is this salvation and soul, but wishful thinking and non-existent concepts? Can you articulate What this salvation is? Why should anybody want to live eternally? I'm in darkness only when I sleep, I can't help, it's very difficult to sleep with lights on.
Yes, I can. Salvation is when you ask Jesus to save you. From yourself, from the wrath of God, and from Satan. You will be tried and tested, and only God will then determine if you are willing to change yourself into a better person and are worthy of saving. God can see you inside and out,and knows what's in your heart. But you have to ask jesus for his help,as he is the only way in.
Asking for salvation is asking alot. I mean essentially your surrenduring yourself to a single idea of "the creator." Your asking him to take total control over your life and that's a biggy...especially if you have had a difficult life. I mean I think it's fairly easy for most people to give in to the creator and expect him to take over the drivers seat...but what about those who have had a difficult life...those who have seen times when God could make everything so much better like a fairy god-mother waving her magic wand...but nothing happens.
The idea of Jesus is...just that an idea. I'm not saying that he isn't real just that it requires faith. It requires people to go out on a limb. Sure there is the organized part of the religion, but how much faith can you put in those institutions? In the papers you read about Catholic Priests molesting boys and girls, people starving while churches build bigger buildings, and of course there are always tv evangelist that vaguely resemble (at least IMO) used car salesmen.
If you want to go back into history and look at Churches it's even worse...ever hear of the Children's Crusade? Or the Salem witch trails?
I think about these things when I consider my soul. What if you die and go to heaven just to find out that instead of St. Peter waiting at the Pearly Gates you see Shiva, Visnhu and Brahma waiting for you?
The way I think of it...if I live a good life. Be the best person I can be. Do good and always try to follow my heart what god wouldn't let me into heaven? And honestly if a god is going to deny me into heaven based on the fact that I didn't throw myself at his feet I'd consider the god a bit narcissistic and I'm not sure if that version of heaven would be the right place for me.Well, it's a start being a good person.
You still have to go through Jesus for salvation.
There are only two choices. Which would you prefer? I prefer servitude to God.
It is the way it is.But Janesix that going on the premise that Jesus is the only way for salvation....do you mean to tell me that God creates millions of people all over the world that have never heard of Jesus or Christianity just to go to hell because they never went through Jesus for salvation? And how do you know there are only two choices? I mean that kind of an ultimatum...believe in me or burn in hell type thing.
From what I remember of reading the bible Jesus pretty much said that in order to be right with him you had to do 2 things (great commandments) Love god with all your heart. And love your fellow man. That it....
Right now it seems like with you making the ultimatum you might be approaching dangerously close to the judge not yest ye be judged....I don't think I've been coy. That's EXACTLY what I am saying.
Jesus is the only way to salvation.
I know because I have this information straight from God.
And Jesus said specifically that he is the only way to salvation.All successful religions are the same in that they promise wonderful things to believers while threatening severe consequences to those who do not conform. Saving yourself from eternal waking suffering is certainly a good reason to join something, but I'm pretty sure Hell is fake and it's all about control. What do you think is more likely: that an omniscient god who created all that is, was, ever will be, etc., contradicts himself with petty human emotions like jealousy, frustration and rage while supposedly being eternally benevolent has never offered any proof whatsoever of his (because it has a gender) existence and monitors everything that every person does and thinks at all times without ever taking action, or that human beings are and always will be terrified of death and the unknown and have constructed religion to comfort themselves and then used it to control populations through strict moral codes (that people constantly, hypocritically violate) throughout history?
Nearly all ancient historians agree that Jesus did exist, and what they've learned is very interesting, but the stories written of him afterward are parables, and his own follows a very archetypal and unoriginal epic hero formula that has its roots in ancient Egypt. We don't believe The Odyssey actually happened and we don't celebrate the birth of Dionysus every year because Christian Romans (the same Romans who killed Christians for not being polytheistic pagans before) killed everyone who didn't convert/subjugate themselves.
Every religion has prophets. Scientologists think that an outlandish sci fi author who wasn't even truthful about his own life is theirs. What makes Jesus more legitimate than Mohammad, the prophets of Sikhism, the Buddha, etc.? Oh, right - each one says your soul is toast and you'll be punished for all time if you don't follow his ways. What is a soul? Why do animals and plants not have them? For all you know, you'll end up in Islamic hell for not choosing that path or be doomed to be reincarnated as lesser beings over and over again until you achieve enlightenment.
The people who agree with you are going to continue agreeing while those who do not are going to continue disagreeing.
for GOD so loved the world that HE gave HIS only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH ON HIM should not perish but have everlasting life. CHRIST HIMSELF said HE was the only way to salvation, that no one could come to the FATHER but by HIM. GOD created Adam and Eve and told them to go forth and multiply. and multiply they did. every human will have a chance to accept or reject GOD and HIS Son the CHRIST at some point in their life. GOD says no man will have an excuse. that means no one can say they never heard of GOD or HIS CHRIST. if a person is isolated from other humans, then GOD HIMSELF gives that person knowledge of HIM so that they can make their choice.
it is the height of arrogance to say "if GOD acts in such a way, i am not sure HE is the god for me". we do not get to dictate to GOD how HE should behave. GOD, our Creator, gets to dictate to us whatever rules HE wishes, and if we choose not to obey, we better be willing to accept the consequences of that choice. when a person chooses to break the laws that man create (many are based on GODs laws, though this is changing) and they kill or steal or speed or whatever...they break that law knowing if they get caught what the punishment will be...yet they choose to risk getting caught to do what they choose to do. the same applies with us breaking GODs laws...only difference is with GOD, you will always get caught...the wages of sin (disobedience) is death...pure and simple. CHRIST paid that price for those who will believe on HIM and accept what HE did for them. everyone else must pay that wage themselves.Human sacrifice is barbaric and sadistic, why follow a God that encourages and promotes barbaric behavior?
Let's not start quote scripture please. If we do those of us who aren't strictly Christian could technically start attacking the source of those scripts and pointing out inconsistencies in the Bible and thus somewhat discrediting the source.
http://www.thenazareneway.com/new_testa … encies.htm
A brief google search revealed that. Once upon a time I wrote a hub about this although I've taken it down since then-currently unpublished. I've talked with many Christians and I have to say those that do the convert or die somewhat remind me of the suicide bombers that one see's on tv. Telling people accept this gift of life or burn in hell is not the way....and it's definitely not the Christian way.
One last thing...why are you defending your stance doesn't it go against.....
"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39)GOD does not require HUMAN sacrifices, in fact HE abhors them. what CHRIST did, HE did willingly, knowing full well that only HE had the power to save us in HIS act. you have no understanding of what this act means. CHRIST said the greatest act of love one can give is to die for a friend.
To offer His son up to die IS human sacrifice, hence HE does no abhor it, He promotes it.
CHRIST may have had a human body...but HE was not human. HE could have refused. but HE was willing and in accord with GOD. HE knew what the plan for man was from the beginning. but i dont expect a non believer to understand such things.
I"m sorry tlmcgaa70 but that's a huge cop out. "but i dont expect a non believer to understand such things" that's a well I can't really argue any of this because I'm running on faith here but your wrong anyways type attitude. But just to throw a monkey wrench into your statement let me quote a few lines for you...
Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done'"Luke 22:41-42
"Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, 'My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken away from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will'" (Matthew 26:39)
"'Abba, Father,' he said, 'everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will" (Mark 14:36).
Yeah sounds like he was just itching to die on the cross. But then again I don't expect a believer to understand such things... ;-)It is quite funny when believers blatantly contradict themselves with the fewest of words.
Sorry, but that is false. Jesus allegedly said this on the cross... "My God, why have you forsaken me?" showing clearly Jesus believed God had abandoned him.
i dont expect a non believer to understand such things.
everything you say proves my point.....There's a difference between understanding something and just blindly accepting it.
i do not just blindly accept GOD because someone said i must. when i was three i died and JESUS met me. it is because of that event that I have believed in GOD all my life. most of what i know today mainstream christians reject. things like the importance of obedience to GOD before obedience to man. things like not keeping pagan holidays and like the importance of keeping saturday sabbath.
I wonder how well you understand what you preach given what I have just read.
i am not preaching, i am sharing what i believe to be true. i do not expect anyone else to believe as i do. i do not expect anyone else to understand as i do. and no one on this earth can convince another to believe in GOD...only GOD can do that. HE may use our testimonies to convict someone and bring them to HIM...or HE may not.
Capital letters typically represent yelling. Is that your intent? If not I recommend not capitalizing everything. We have punctuation marks for emphasis.
I agree with what you said in that last comment. Nobody can convince another to believe in God but God. I wonder why you believe so strongly in the Saturday Sabbath, are there any particular reasons?
i choose to capitilize the name of GOD and CHRIST to show my reverence and respect to THEM. if i were shouting then whole sentences would be capitilized. as for saturday sabbath...GOD said HE created the Sabbath and sanctified it on the seventh day...not the first. man changed it to the first day of the week. so to keep it on the first day of the week says you obey man rather than GOD. and no i am not seventh day adventist. i associate with no religions. GOD/CHRIST is my religion.
Okay that makes sense. What do you do on the Sabbath?
i rest and read my KJV bible and meditate on GODs Word and pray.
All day? Do you attend a church service, or other form of fellowship on the Sabbath? I also love the King James Version btw, but I tend to navigate more towards the ESV lately.
the true sabbath begins at sundown on friday and lasts until sundown on saturday i believe...but i observe it from sun up on saturday to sun down on saturday. and yes, all day. no i do not attend church. i quit quite a few years ago when i could learn nothing new from them. be careful reading other translations, they add to and take away even by changing the meaning of a word.
That is the precise reason why I like to use my husband's Greek interlinear Bible to understand the little differences in the different versions.
What do you mean you cannot learn anything else from them? I think that everybody has a little wisdom or knowledge to offer us. I am pretty sure that throughout the epistles Paul encourages fellowship doesn't he?
I think we should spend a good deal of time alone with God, and with His word. But I also am of the opinion that as humans we may need a reality check from other people. If we spend all our time meditating in His word without seeking the thoughts and understandings of other people I think we risk missing some crucial information, as well as the joy of fellowship that is taught throughout the New Testament.
What do you think?you might say that church is the milk. once you are ready for meat, then only GOD has what you need. HE teaches us HIMSELF. i used to go to churches, then i came to a point when i had questions churches could not answer. i became unsatisfied and became a church hopper trying to find the church that would answer my questions. i did not even know what the questions were, but i knew they werent being answered. finally i stopped going to church and looked to GOD for my answers. over time i realized that i had grown beyond what the church could do for me. GOD has taught me a great deal...things i could not learn in church. spiritual understandings to the questions i did not even know i had. as far as fellowship...i live in a very isolated area, but i have made many "christian" friends online, mostly with facebook, and some here in hubpages. i have all the fellowship i need.
I think that having people that you can grow with spiritually and be held accountable by is important. Sometimes we may feel that we are learning all we need, and that there is nothing the church, or fellow Christians can offer us. I think that it is then that they can likely teach us humility.
Sometimes we may think we are listening to God's word, when really we are listening to ourselves, or something worse. We are supposed to follow Christ's example. Jesus surrounded himself with people, he had fellowship with these people. He left only to pray. Other wise he was always around other people. The apostles followed his example. I think we also need to follow that example.
What do you think about creating disciples? I have a video that you may like.CHRIST created disciples. to create disciples one must be a teacher and an authority on their subject. CHRIST alone was the true athority on GOD. we who follow HIM are HIS disciples...students. if we are but students, how can we know enough to be teachers? especially because as Paul states...we only see in part. to teach someone when we do not see the whole, we chance teaching falsehoods. a half understood truth is no truth at all. i am no teacher. i am a student. i share what i learn but i dont expect anyone to accept what i share. i share because i am called to share.
Well Jesus says specifically in Matthew to go and make disciples in all nations. I agree that we should not teach what we do not understand, but I think that a very big part of what Jesus taught was for us to share our knowledge, and to teach and rebuke one another.
That was the Great Commission, Matthew 28:19. Interestingly the Great Commission is written differently in the King James version than most of the other versions. It just says to "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: " but most other versions, including the original Greek from which the King James version was translated, it says go and make disciples of all nations. The verb in the Greek is "μαθητεύω - mathéteuó literally, to disciple or to make into disciples or to train in discipleship."
Paul instructs Timothy to teach others as he as taught him. "2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also." (2 Timothy 2:2 KJV)
Acts describes the disciples of Jesus making more disciples. (Acts 14:21)
So I do think that we are commanded to go make disciple. Honestly I am becoming more and more wary of the KJV the more I compare it to the Greek.
Well if God is the only one who can convince a person to believe in him then wouldn't god be sending millions of souls to hell based on the fact that he didn't want to make the effort to convert a soul?
God is the only one who can show a person the particular evidence that the individual specifically needs in order for the individual to believe in a God. The element that is often forgotten is the element of free choice. No matter what God was to show a person they are still responsible for their own choices. They can be given all the evidence in the world and still decide not to believe. That is their choice. It is a choice that needs to be respected.
In the end God gives people what they decide they want, whether that is to be close to Him, or to be separate from Him. Hell is described as separation from God, if a person chooses to be separate, then God will allow them to be separated.
God doesn't send people to Hell, so much as He gives them what they chose in their hearts. It doesn't matter how much, or how little effort is put into a person, it still comes down to choice.
Think of it like this,a teacher can show kids all different ways to understand a fact. When it comes time to write the test no matter what that teacher showed the student, and no matter how much work the students peers put in to helping that student understand, the choice of what to write down on that test sheet still lies in each individual students hands. However, once they make their choice and hand in that test they cannot change their mind. It is up to the teacher to judge how much they learned.
I am sorry if I over explained myself I try to be careful on these threads, I like to be understood. If anything I said was unclear or seemed to be contradictory, or nonsensical please let me know and I will do my best to clarify. Finally these are my beliefs. This is what I believe based off of the studying I have done. This is my understanding. I am not positing this to be the absolute truth. Just like to cover my bases :p
That is false, there are many gods purported to exist so there are as many choices. You have decided to choose a god created through human sacrifice, which is barbaric and sadistic at the very least. Perhaps, you should choose another God that doesn't require that type of barbaric behavior.
Actually, I don't define words that have been defined. It makes it so much easier to communicate effectively.
Added to that, you seemingly avoid to define words that you can not define. It makes it so much easier for you to communicate effectively, OMG!
There is only one God. You can choose Him, or choose Satan. There is no third choice.
The way of God is Life, and the way to Life is Jesus Christ.
You have been given free will, choose wisely.You have already planted the seed of hatred, with that belief.
That is not true. I only tell you the truth. It is for each individual to decide if they want good or evil in their heart.
If you had said "Jesus is the way for me", that would be different.
Instead, you said "Jesus is the WAY".
Think for 30 minutes, and you can figure out the difference.Barbaric
bar·bar·ic/bärˈbarik/
Adjective:
1.Savagely cruel; exceedingly brutal.
2.Primitive; unsophisticated.
3.See Christianity. ;-)Where does G W Bush stand there, according to that definition of 'barbaric'?
"1.Savagely cruel; exceedingly brutal.
2.Primitive; unsophisticated.
3.See Christianity. ;-)"Religions, people and politicians could all be classified under the term barbaric. One could even argue that those who rely solely on faith in this forum are a form of unsophisticated barbarism. Yes ytbot1x GW Bush could be defined as barbaric...but then again so could America as a whole and our current President. I'm a big fan of anti-war, anti-torture, human rights, etc. Gitmo still remaining open shows a more savagely cruel side of America....but that's off topic.
I do not think it is free will we have been given. It is a very different thing called free choice. Also I do not think this is the way to ask people to consider their choices.
I am pretty sure you expressed very different beliefs a few months ago. Shouldn't the memory of that help you see that this is the type of my way or hell evangelizing that makes people fear or hate Christianity?Perhaps you are right about the free choice. I haven't gotten an answer from God on that yet, but I haven't persued the matter very much either.
If you are talking to ME about my previous views,then yes, you are absolutely correct.
I was confused. I asked for salvation, and I recieved it. Now I know the truth,and God is with me every second of the day. He gives me signs, and even has spoken to me.Calybana, look at it this way. People should feel lucky that there is a way to be saved at all.
"Shouldn't the memory of that help you see that this is the type of my way or hell evangelizing that makes people fear or hate Christianity?"
Maybe. How do you suggest I go about it then?Conversation that is about it. Evangelism through relationship. As you talk to people more you will see many opportunities to present the Gospel. It needs to be presented positively after all it is Good News right? I think we also need to be very careful how we react to people rejecting the Gospel. God gave us the ability to choose, we need to respect their decision.
Maybe you're right calybana. I will have to think about that.
I want to be effective,that's what matters.
[i]The idea of Jesus is...just that an idea. I'm not saying that he isn't real just that it requires faith. [i] You are so right. It does require faith and that is all that Christ asks of us - that we put our faith in Him and accept His free gift of salvation. Being good will not get you into heaven.
I would accept the Great Spirit in my heart, till I get a heart-attack!
One cannot ask for a gift that has already been given.
One does not need to ask another to reside in them, that is pagan demonology.
One does not need to be concerned, if one has welcomed the previously given gift.
One does have the right to accept or reject the gift -and what that gift brings with it.
Whomever accepts -truly accepts- becomes immortal here and now -as was promised.
Whomever rejects -does not fully accept- dies body, brain & spirit -as was also promised.
There is no in-between remaining. No staff to lean on, no leaf to cover, no judgment left to determine. The final law is: Life or death. Choose life, its says, that you may live. Either way, the gift completes the goal: remove the stumbling block called sin.
Nothing to really argue about then, from either side, really. Sadly, people are arguing over a gift. Ha! Imagine that. Fighting with words, swords and such over a gift neither owns yet both desire to possess, promote, profit from, control or destroy for the sake of others. {shakes head} Humans, what can you do...
JamesI find it interesting , janesix, that you ask this, because your profile looks like your are not into Christianity, or am I wrong? Are you just curious as to what people will say?
I have recently converted. Like, this week. God cam to me because I asked,and I meant it.
I went through the process of salvation,and now the Holy Spirit is in me continuously.Too much 'spirit' will take you to god, as somebody said.
Did you interact with a priest or creature before this? What kind of desperate situation are you in in your life to make such a strange and unpredictable lurch?
Interesting fact: Not one fact of the bible has EVER been dis proven...AND if they could just disprove one single fact then the entire Bible would become unaccredited...hmm makes you think. They also found Noahs Ark, Lots wife(pillar of salt) and may other Biblical artifacts in the EXACT place the Bible stated they would be. So If Gods not real then how is that possible?
@wifey so is claim of bible...noahs ark has been found then why the hell christians are still investing millions to find it?....secondly finding noahs ark would prove quran right....so would u believe in quran?
Finding the Ark would not prove the entirety of either book to be completely accurate. It would prove the account of Noah's Ark to be accurate. Since the Bible was circulating when the Qur'an was written we know the most probable source for the information.
Also it would take a lot more than the ark to prove the Qur'an right. It has some very obvious inconsistencies. It says that Muslims should turn to the Bible, and people of the Book (Christians) for knowledge. Yet the Bible says "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:8) in multiple places. The Qur'an is preaching another Gospel, as well as denying that Jesus is the Son of God. Both of these things contradict the Book that came first, the Book that the Qur'an instructs Muslims to read and trust.
The common argument is that the Bible has been changed. My question is how would every copy of every document be changed? By the time the Qur'an was written their were thousands of copies of the Biblical documents circulating. I mean hundreds of copies of particular books of the Bible. Copies that could be compared. In order for the Bible to be changed every single copy would have had to of been changed, and changed in the same way, in the way that supports this argument. That is preposterous.
The only way it could have been changed, and I don't believe it was, was if God Himself decided to change every single copy. He could do it right? But if God changed them to say "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." that would serve as a very strong message to the other religions that claim the Bible as truth, but rely also on another Gospel.
Anyways I feel this is a little off topic sorry.Proof will be given during the Tribulation. Then everyone will have to make a choice.
choice is clear...if one has to choose between god of bible or hell, hell is always better...personally i dont want to stay with mass murderer , unreasonable , egoist entity which jews and chrisitians call god...
so you choose to be with the worst of humanity in hell? now who is being unreasonable? that doesnt even make sense. you are choosing to be with rapists, child molesters, mass murderers and worse. go figure.
@timcgaa ...u r missing the point...if what bible defines as god is real , i wont want to be with such mass murderer...
i cant see how i am missing the point...if GOD is real, and hell is real, then you will find mass murderers and worse there...yet you choose to be with them, who have no love, rather than GOD, whose love is perfect. still doesnt make sense. GOD is real. but no one can convince a non believer of this. in the end all will know the truth. those who reject GOD will face the consequences of their choice.
again u miss the point....if ur so called god is real..he is worst than people living in hell...and dont threaten me...i am ready to face any consequence but i refuse to live with mass murderer....
wow...ok, this is going no where fast. and how have i threatened you? because i said those who reject GOD must face the consequences of their choice? then you must consider the bible to be a direct threat against you, because that is what i took that from. how does one be threatened by something they do not believe exists?
Yes, that is a threat because YOU said it to someone.
The Bible is merely a book, it takes someone to utter the words in there to someone else in order for it to be a threat, which is what you did.
It doesn't matter nor does it change the fact YOU uttered the threat.
Understand?
So what? Your threats are the same ones uttered by other believers in other religions, they will threaten you with the same consequences for rejecting their god.
Notice how all threats from all religions become pointless?i see how your life has become pointless, yes. if you want to take my words as threats, well that is your choice. it was a simple statement of fact, even if you choose to deny it as a fact. makes no difference to me.
LOL! No problem with insulting others.
Yes, I understand that threatening people makes no difference to you, regardless of whether it is fact or fiction. If you utter it towards others, it is a threat.I think you are mistaking simple warnings (in concern for your soul) with threats.
No, I'm not, they are threats, there's no mistaking it. And since souls have never been shown to exist, there is no reason for the threats other than the beliefs of that person, hence they should be seeking professional help for their verbal assaults on others.
Yes, especially for those who spend their lives threatening others with religious nonsense. If your God really did exist, He would not take those threats to others lightly and would deal those who threaten harshly.
piscean, when you are saved, you are transformed. You will no longer want to sin. You become a better person. It is a gift from God.
@janesix do u know me?...how do u conclude that i am already not a better person?....any gift from mass murderer is unacceptable to me...i dont go by bribes...
I meant you in a general sense. Not you in particular.
Well I don't know what else to say to you. What could I say that would convince you?janesix...you cant. understand that when GOD gives strong delusion to believe a lie, no man can break it. when man chooses to reject GOD HE gives them over to the lusts of their heart and blinds them lest HE have to save them. this is GODs right to do. HE is our master and maker and HE alone has the right to dictate the rules and our fate. HE does not seek nor want our opinion on the matter.
You forget the 144000 first fruits annointed and sealed with God's name. It is their job to convert in the last days,as well as work as messengers,and act as God's instruments.
ummm, i am not forgetting anything...
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
this does not describe your everyday christian. where does it say they will convert and act as GODs messengers?
Janesix, i realize you have recently accepted salvation...i understand your desire to share the joy you have found. but you really do need to be a student before you ever think of being a teacher. there is much you need to learn yet. dont take offense at this, it is just a statement of fact. share what GOD has done in your life, but that is all. leave the convicting and converting of souls to GOD. HE may use your testimony to do it...but anyone saved will be by HIM, not you or I. also, GOD gave man the right to accept HIM...or reject HIM. HE did not tell us to force people to accept HIM. HE did not tell us to shove HIM down peoples throats. remember what CHRIST told HIS disciples? when HE sent them out HE told them if a home or town rejected them (HIM), to leave it and shake the dust of that home or town off their feet. or leave them to their choice and the consequences of it.
as for the 144,000...i do not know of a living soul today that fits this description. even I, who have chosen to remain a virgin for GOD, do not fit this description. i am a sinner. if not for the forgiveness of CHRIST, i would most certainly have a great many faults before GOD.
consider what i am saying, please. ask GOD to teach you the truth and how to share that truth.
I have asked God to guide me. waiting for an answer still.
Thank you for trying to help. I'm not sure how to go about this.
Sorry, but it actually takes a whole lot more than the wave of magic hand for someone to become a better person.
I agree. It takes babtism by fire,and it make you WANT to be a better person.
So what? Wanting to be a better person is not equivalent to making an effort to be a better person, it is not a wave of a magic hand or some ridiculous ritual, it is effort, not magic.
It takes both. The wanting and the effort. And God helping with this is a gift.
Totally false, anyone can become a "better" person simply by way of effort. No godly gifts required.
If someone believes they need their god in order to be a better person, they should first seek professional help in order to understand why they are unable to do it themselves, there most likely is some mental disorder not allowing them to reason.
Nonsense, we can choose not to abide by your threats and we can choose not to be with rapists, child molesters and mass murderers, too. Notice how your threats become pointless?
Wasn't these the people jesus was supposed to walk with, the scum of society(prostitutes, Tax collectors and the like).
So if Jesus were alive today, you would be the first one to condemn him, wouldn't you?CHRIST walked among sinners because all are sinners. HE came to give the good news...that if we accept HIM, we can be saved. if we reject HIM, we must pay the wages of death for our sins ourselves. the reason people reject this message and the ONE who brought it is because they do not wish to be responsible for their actions and words. they wish to live however they choose to and not be accountable for it. they do not want anyone dictating how they should live. but it doesnt matter how much you deny the truth, GOD exists. and all will stand before HIM in the end.
Speak for yourself. Then why are you worried about murderers, they too are just sinners like yourself(according to you)
It is good to know that neither jesus nor the people who accepted him ever died.
Extrapolation of your self to others. Again if you are not responsible for your actions, do not worry the police and the courts will take care of it.
Every human who can THINK, will think for himself without the interventions of other people. More over, if you are to take your bible, a leper should take doves and not leprosy treatment, which I do not think you will be doing. Will you like it, if anyone else dictate how you should live?[despite your insistence you are living by the bible, are you? Did you sell all you have and gave it to poor, as Jesus said or are you inventing some reason not to do that?]
Wishful thinking and nonsense, nothing else. Neither can you tell what 'god' is nor you can tell what 'exist' is, why babble?spoken as only a blind (blind to the truth) person can speak. if you really believe you are "thinking for yourself"...you have a lot to learn.
Christians do not have to do what Jesus said. It is all a matter of contextualizing it so these things no longer apply. Unless you were born within walking distance of Galilee - nothing applies to you.
Except the preaching.
I'll take the preaching. He mentioned quite a few things to do. Anyone would do well to listen and respond in kind.
He is still preaching through his Holy Spirit. You hear him now, brother!Ahem, it is not his [holy] Spirit, it is the Father in him which is [the] Spirit --same spirit that is all creation and without creation --and in any/every who accept that they are the offspring of that Spirit, the Creator [himself].
This is the problem with religion, it is dogmatic translation twisted by paganism, idolatry and more -be it the religion of equation [science] or religion of sensationalism [Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Green-man, Hindi, etc]. All are products of ego {ha-satan in Aramaic} which gave birth to Reason. It is Reason that has divided humans within themselves, against or for one another, the world they exist in and most definitely the point of said salvation: immortality in body, brain and spirit.
James.
I don't understand what you mean Mark. Of course Christians have to do what Jesus says.
If you ever felt the love of Jesus, you would probably change your mind.
@janesix jesus as marketting agent of so called god of bible is fine...happy go merry kinds...but god of bible is cruel , mass murderer...dont go by advertisement...deal with factuality and in that it is difficult to know who is god and who is satan...but am glad 40 % of world doesnot believe in abhramic religion and out of 60% who believe cant decide jesus is messenger or god ...so there is still hope that these 60% some day would come out of barbaric god of bible...
You don't understand what you're missing. Please reconsider asking Jesus for salvation.
@janesix u dont understand what u r missing....Please reconsider your decision of asking jesus for salvation....u would become free....
Never. jesus is the light of my life,and I am a servant of God. I wouldn't have it any other way.
@janesix...u still have time...may be someday u would see through light...how can u be servant of mass murderer...but anyways its ur choice...
@wifeymama822
The bible is a half decent historical text, but so if Homer's Illiad, it provides a massive amount of information on the time it was written and it has not yet been disproven that apollo himself came down to shoot arrows all over the place or that achillies mother is a demi god.
What an odd way to try and gain credibility, what you have said weakens the argument for the bible being 'fact' - wifeymama822@ matthew kirk & pisean 282311:
People for centuries have done nothing but dispute text and findings of every religion trying to always prove theirs to be the correct one...at the end of the day we all will think an feel however we choose thus using our GOD given choice.
I choose to use my faith and believe in every written word of the KJV and you can choose not to. Either way, eventually everyone will find out what the truth really is..so in the meantime it does no good sparking up arguments. I wasnt looking for a debate or trying to challenge anyones beliefs i was just saying how nothing has been dis proven only proven to be 100% accurate thus far and left it at that.
And as far as the Homer's Illiad comparison you completely went off the mark...no they cant dis prove his writtings but have they proved any of it? My point was they HAVE proved many of the Bibles writtings so far. So thank you for the not so helpful cocky response.I doubt anything in the bible can be proven to be 100% true, we all know it cannot be proven 100% true. I just don't know where you're getting your information from other than you own head... it doesn't work to just make ludicrous statements that you've made up in your head.
They cannot disprove Homer's writings, in fact we know a lot of it to be true, if it cannot be disproven by your own logic that the bible isn't 100% true then the Illiad cannot be disproven to be 100% true. For you to make either statement you have to come up with some evidence (bearing in mind I'm not asking you to come up with evidence of god here, but historical evidence that the bible is proven to be 100% true and the illiad NOT 100% true)
And for your information they HAVE proved much of the illiad to be true, we KNOW the trojan wars happened to some extent! We do not know if the Apollo came down to intervened in the war but we do not know that Jesus rose from the dead and it is not even 100% if he even existed at all historically, it is likely, but not 100% proven. Jewish uprisings against Rome for example as mentioned in the bible are as close to proven as they could be, the fact the jews were slaves in egypt seems pretty tight, but did the sea part before moses? Did jesus actually walk on water? There is no way to prove this to be 100% accurate, in fact the contrary it is almost certainly innaccurate.
I didn't say you were challenging anyones belief, I critised you trying to gain credibility by making wild statements such as "Not one fact of the bible has EVER been dis proven" - you made that one up in your head or got preached it by a lunatic. For example - Adam and Eve being made out of clay and a rib, god creating the heavens and the earth THEN inventing light! Light was around a long long long long time before the earth was even formed we KNOW that is a fact, we also know that man is actually a Great Ape and hold our evolutionary origins back when the first complex animals appeared 550 million years ago. There is evidence, in fact you could run tests yourself to test out evolution, you can breed dogs bigger or smaller for example, Darwin bread pigeons with bigger and bigger wings over many generations. This is basic evolution, how long before the pigeons wings become so big that it forms a new species? Millions and millions of years, but we know its true because we have evidence. Adam and eve - someone wrote it in a book during the reign of the emperor constantine in Rome.... doesn't count as evidence... there the bible has NOT been proved 100% accurate so far, you can't use that statement any further without knowing that many men have proved it not to be 100% accurate, but to be at least partially inaccurate.
So, people do rise from the dead, can walk on water and can live in the belly of a fish (whale)?
hmm, does that really make you think?
no i wouldn't but if he was real i would ask him why the heck so many kids suffer horribly every day. i would also ask that if he is so powerfull , why did he make a planet that is so messed up. hurricanes, volcanoes, etc.
Yes, because He is the only way to God. Consider it for yourself.
Many people see this as a question to attract members into a church or a simple yes or no answer to a life lead within a religious belief. Your question is very deep since most people don't know what or who they want inside their hearts. A lot of folks don't want ANYONE inside them. Even a loved spouse can reach just so far into our beings before we say, "That's my space. Don't tread on me."
When you have the conviction that 1. God exists and that 2. He is Jesus 3. Who died for you your relationship with Him changes. At first you may feel truly vulnerable that He can see who you really are, but then, when you really need understanding and love you'll let Him into the deepest recesses of your soul.
I guess the simple answer to your question is yes, I do. And I want Him to rest in me.That was beautiful. Thank you for answering.
I wish that I has the eloquence that you do. It would make my job much easier. I don't know, maybe it's not supposed to be easy for me.
I don't know how to bring people to see how wonderful Jesus is.
I can only speak from my heart.
no....last thing my heart can accept is long dead hippy....heart is programmed to pump blood...it accepts only blood....
Learn to love God!
A day is coming when you feel sorry for not loving God from your heart!
- Matthew Kirkposted 11 years ago
0I think the most striking thing to take out of this thread is something that has been hinted at already by Seth Winter.
There are two clear lines: people who aren't trying to convert anyone (Christian or not) and those who are. Those who are, are not actually even using the bible for evidence but simply making broad statements about what god wants or what christ is according to their own personal belief system or as at least one of you has alluded to because god told you to.
This is probably because they have been preached to in this way all of their lives and think it is as easy for us to nod and agree and praise the lord blindly as they have always found it very easy to do. Most of us though have been brought up to think for ourselves including those who consider themselves religious. This cult like behaviour is drilled in from a young age and almost inescapable for the victim, I pity those of you chanting capital letters via your keyboard in the vague, rhetoric way you do on every thread and sincerely hope you manage to escape your current existence regardless of whether you loose your faith or not.I want to convert people to Christianity, definitely.
I expect humiliation, rudeness, disrespect an d more at every turn.
As I learn more about what God wants from me,and what he wants me to do, perhaps I won't seem like such a bumbling idiot and will have resources to use that I don't have currently.Maybe then I will be a bit more effective.If you don't ever get those resources Jane six and you do seem like a bumbling idiot as you put it (not as I put it) will you change your mind? Can we put a time frame on this happening?
I will never change my mind.
I will just have to learn from my mistakes,and try to do a better job.@janesix learning from mistakes is what makes us human...Reject christ and be saved....saved from false doctrine and free to live life with fellow human beings in what is possible for humans rather than only two possibility of being servant of god or being rebel....
God created humans. He gave us the ability and the chance to learn from our mistakes. The world is the way it is because we tend to choose unwisely. Luckily, God also gave us a way to salvation,if we ask for it. It's really that easy.
yes it is easy....just reject false doctrine and jesus...then u wuld be free...it is really easy...try it.....u wuld be released on every thing and would be more constructive in looking human race and what is possible by this human race...
Then, it is clear and obvious Gods plan failed miserably.
So, believers can follow a failed plan that has led our world to the state it is in today, but they are so lucky as to have an out from the failed plan. Seems like a problem two-fold.
1. Believers never learn that a failed plan will continue to fail.
2. Believers take the easy way out, while the failed plan continues to affect everyone else.A troubled Man, the way of jesus to salvation is NOT the easy way. There is a reason it's called the straight and narrow path.
Absolutely, it's easy. It takes no effort at all. What actually takes effort is the thinking part, in which one reasons their own behavior, then comes the effort part in putting it into action. Salvation from Jesus requires none of that.
And, that reason is...?Have you been saved by Jesus, ATM? Do you really know what that consists of?
It consists of nothing more than the relatively instantaneous thought of wanting to believe in it.
Unless, you're aware of someplace and time I might make an appointment to meet with Jesus to go over the paperwork?
Because being moral is harder than being immoral. It's easy to buy things you don't need,and waste resources that could be used for those who really have true needs. It's easy to rape the planet for the sake of profit, which people refuse to protest because they need their "stuff". It's easy to be sarcastic and mean to people, to give yourself a lift when you're feeling down(or just because you're a mean person.
It's hard to always try to think about who's feelings you might be hurting with your words, a smirk, or a laugh.
It's hard to do the RIGHT thing when it isn't socially acceptable or politically correct, or when you're in danger.
There is one other thing that is meant by the straight and narrow path, but that is for each individual to deal with when they decide to TRULY accept God as real, and Jesus as their savior.It's not hard at all to do those things for anyone who reasons them. But, I can understand that your religion demands you do those things without any rational explanation, which would indeed make it very hard to follow.
Yet, you just admitted that isn't working.
No, because it is an incorrect name. The true Hebrew name of the Messiah is Yehowshuwa.
It doesn't matter. Jesus knows when you meen him.
I think it does matter, most Christians will quote Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
It states there is only one name, so it would be paramount to have the correct name!!ro-jo-yo, I doubt that Christians would quote Acts in the way that you specified because looking at the Greek it does not support your argument.
onoma: a name, authority, cause
Original Word: ὄνομα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: onoma
Phonetic Spelling: (on'-om-ah)
Short Definition: name, character, reputation
Definition: name, character, fame, reputation.
ónoma – name; (figuratively) the manifestation or revelation of someone's character, i.e. as distinguishing them from all others. Thus "praying in the name of Christ" means to pray as directed (authorized) by Him, bringing revelation that flows out of being in His presence. "Praying in Jesus' name" therefore is not a "religious formula" just to end prayers (or get what we want)!
This is the word that is used in the Greek manuscript. It is not about the name. The Bible says that God sees our heart, he can see past the words we use.If you also look in the Greek manuscript you will see that the name Jesus comes from the Greek Iesous which comes from the Hebrew name Yehowshuwa. And Yehowshuwa also stated that we are to worship his Father Yehowah. Hear , O Israel; Yehowah our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love Yehowah thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this , Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: 33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. 34 And when Yehowshuwa saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.
So the greatest commandment is that we must love our Father Yehowah with all our heart, mind and soul.John 6:44 KJV
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Everyone has turned to Jesus Christ which is the wrong name he is the False Messiah.
Acts 17:30 KJV
And the times of this ignorance God winked at ; but now commandeth all men every where to repent :
It is Jesus who died for you. Don't stuck up in a name wrong name and fall!
The name is Yehowshuwa, I am so surprised how people will let themselves be decieved, and cling to something that is false.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that {b}doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven[/b]. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them , I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
John 5:43 KJV
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive
Yehowshuwa came in his Father's name. His Father's name is Yehowah
Yehowshuwa means Yehowah's loud call to freedom.read again please...it is allah....it was never yehowshuwa.. it is myth and falsehood....isa or jesus is mere servant of allah....come to master...come to allah...
Mohammad is a false prophet: he spoke in the name of Allah.
It is well known that the name of the Almighty is Yehowah it is in the Torah many times.
Deuteronomy 18:20 KJV
But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak , or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall dietorah believer says jesus was false prophet...dont buy from false doctrines...come to allah and surrender to his will...dont let false doctrines rule ur life...
Of course they say Jesus is false, it is the wrong name, the true name of the Messiah is Yehowshuwa, and the true name of the Almighty is Yehowah.
You are following a false doctrine, you are also under a delusion. All you are doing is trying to lead people astray and to throw confusion. My advice to you is to watch your step.
Galatians 6:7 KJV
Be not deceived ; God is not mocked : for whatsoever a man soweth , that shall he also reap .they dont even say jesus is false messiah because of wrong name...they say whom u call Yehowshuwa and others call jesus is actually false messiah...they r waiting for messiah but after muhammad no one would come...because he is seal of all prophets...jesus or Yehowshuwa was prophet and servant of allah....come to allah and be saved...
Don't you understand, Rome killed the true followers of Yehowshuwa and created the Catholic Church who worship Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church created Islam and the false prophet Mohammad.
Allah is a false god.@ro-jo-yo u saying something is false , doesnot make it false...u quoting from altered books makes it even more faulty....what u got to get it that allah is only god...quran is his complete book and from adam to abhraham to moses to isa to muhammad all r his servants...muhammad being last in league must be followed as standard...i hoe u finally get it and be actually saved...
Due to the acute awareness of all the human misery in my heart, there's no spare room for Jesus. Now he can change that by doing something about the said human misery. But he won't, will he ?
man created their own misery by rejecting GOD. in spite of the fact that GOD repeatedly tried to reason with man, in spite of the fact that we are warned what will be for that choice, man still chose to reject GOD. man has a habit of mocking and hating and outright rejecting GOD, then crying out to HIM for help or demanding HE fix things. doesnt make sense to me.
Where is this God and where is He reasoning with men? I want to be there and join in the discussion.
Hebrews 11:6 KJV
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is , and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Our Father Yehowah is our very breath. He is omnipresent. It states in the bible that we are to seek our Father and it also states that he will not hear a sinner. So what is sinner?
Yehowshuwa said the greatest commandment is to love Yehowah with all your hear mind and soul.
If you do not love Yehowah, then you are a sinner.
If you don't love him then how can you "join the discussion"In other words, you have no idea either. Thanks for the preaching, but that's not what I asked for.
What do you mean? You asked where God is and I said he is Omnipresent, that means Yehowah is everywhere. And you said you wanted to join the discussion. I said you can't because you have to believe and love Yehowah with all your heart. You don't, so our Father Yehowah can't hear you, so how can you join the discussion???
That is a very selfish god. The same could be said about despots and dictators, if you don't obey and worship them, they want nothing to do with you.
so what if it makes GOD selfish...HE created us HE can be whatever HE chooses to be. non believers will never see or understand the love behind HIS actions. to them love is hate, hate is love.
I would never follow a selfish god because selfishness is what he will teach.
Yes, and He chooses to be a selfish megalomaniac, a type of role model a dictator or despot may wish to emulate or learn from.
Gibberish.
Yehowah is not a selfish god, he is a jealous god.
Malachi 1:6 KJV
A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saithYehowah of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say , Wherein have we despised thy name?He is both selfish and jealous, plus some more negative characteristics, which completely outweigh any positive characteristics he might display.
@ A Troubled Man.
Are you describing yourself?
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived ; God is not mocked : for whatsoever a man soweth , that shall he also reap.Thank Jehovah Jireh! All of what I will reap for my abominations was nailed to the cross! I have been washed clean. I wear the righteousness of Christ, not my own.
you are given your lifetime to accept or reject GOD. once you have willingly rejected HIM, HE rejects you. if you feel this is unfair, you will just have to get over it. once HE has rejected you...you will never see nor hear nor understand HIM or anything pertaining to HIM. at least not until judgement day. as far as insulting you or threatening you...that is your feelings on it...it doesnt make it so. if you are dressed as a clown and someone says you dress funny, something all can see, and you take it as an insult, it doesnt make it one, only to you.
So then, your original claim of your god reasoning with men is a contradiction.
You are free to make up any kind of nonsense you wish that is totally unrelated, but YOU are making threats when you utter them to others.whatever...i am tired of going in circles with you...believe as you will and see where it gets you. you can twist my words around all you want. it wont change anything. have a nice life.
Yes, I can see that you don't care one iota about threatening others and will most likely continue to do so. Yes, I understand you won't change a thing.
That's why your religion causes so much grief in the world and why we reject it.
the thing is, not all the people subject of human misery have rejected God, as a matter of fact, many of them are his followers. As for myself, I never said I reject God, I'm merely waiting for him to do something I can interpret as a gesture of goodwill on his part. Is that too much to ask or should I just accept that he "works in mysterious ways"?
and why should HE do such a thing? to prove HIMSELF to you? to impress you? HE is GOD...you obviously have no idea what that means. HE answers to no one. HE is the law, HE makes the rules, HE dictates what will happen , when where why and how. we have no say in this. also, you do not understand why HIS followers must suffer. CHRIST suffered...so why should HIS followers get away without suffering? suffering is not always a bad thing.
He doesn't have to do anything, but then again, neither do I. I don't have any beef with religious people as long as they don't try to sell me anything, which of course they do because they are so insecure in their own beliefs that everybody has to embrace the same. The more people believe the same thing the more it must be true, right ?
you are right, you dont have to accept HIM...but once you make that choice...that is it. you will face the consequences of that choice whether you believe it or not. we may appear weak, weak minded, insecure or whatever else you wish to see us as...but we are in truth none of these things. but you can never understand this unless you accept GOD.
So, finally we agree to disagree, so I rest my case. But I'll state it again. there's nothing wrong by my book with people having religious beliefs, I actually know a lot of them. But I don't want to be told I'm wrong because I made different choices. There is no way to establish that. All I want is for people to respect my choices the same way I respect theirs.And I will live with the consequences of my choices. If God is love, as I hear all the time, I shouldn't have too much to fear
It most certainly is a bad thing, especially if it's part and parcel to a religion.
Sadists and masochists enjoy suffering. Do you enjoy suffering?
Yehowshuwa (Joshua) 4:24 KJV
That all the people of the earth might know the hand of Yehowah, that it is mighty: that ye might fear Yehowah your God for everNo I will not ask Jesus to come into my heart. He is already here, and it's a gas!
At first I thought this question was a joke and that I detected some sarcasm. Then I looked at janesix's profile and they also believe that the time 11:11 is a way for god to communicate with us. So now I know that this question was totally a joke...right?
@sonneborn
Janesix (after scrolling through her hubs) believes in many practices that most chritians and indeed the bible prohibit, such as the zodiac and other random nonsense that Jane "feels" in the wind.
Many of these seem to have been removed since discovering christ 2 weeks ago. It shows a spiritually starved person desperate for attention and willing to believe in anything than their own sad reality - The psychology of religion... Janesix is not joking...
I am new to this site, and couldn't help but to respond to this forum. I feel it is no longer a secret that humans have decided to question "the meaning of life" more now than history has ever recorded, and I am almost sure that information, and our ability to acquire "truth" at such high speeds has had a lot to do with this enlightenment. I am in no way trying to step on anyone's toes, or insult any believers with this post, but to maybe give everyone involved something to think about., I can't believe any God written with such fatherly intent would ever smite me to hell for just asking questions. I am a loyal married woman of 14 years, yet understand that marriage doesn't just naturally occur in all natural beings, but a choice we make. Why is marriage difficult? Because it's an evolution of two people who decided to grow old together, willing to alter personality traits that come and go through different phases in life. Unfortunately, I decided to give away what my husband could have had, my, and the only reason it makes sense to me to save yourself for that special someone is to delete, or better yet, never create past memories of exes to come in and infiltrate your thoughts. Thoughts you can't help, thoughts stored in your subconscious. I have no idea how I remember to blink, breathe, pump my heart , or the other countless unconscious thoughts that make my body work, so how in the world can a random thought in my mind constitute lust? To think, is to act upon, according to several of the BIG BOOKS, therefore accidentally thinking of past events such as exes, and smiling, is causing me to sin, and in the end, sending me to hell. I can't believe that. I give my heart to the thought of Jesus, I give my heart to the hope that people will invest in humanity, and start believing in themselves instead of relying on something else to believe in. I feel as if Jesus tried to pass on a great idea, an idea that we all could heal. That anyone can turn water to wine, and that we are God, every single one of us. Well, that's just too much power for one man to have, and a book was revised by a king with a bunch of rules condemning most of us to a horrible place. This book was also written when the world was flat, and if an anti christ is going to rise from the east, then where is east? It's not what we Americans think is east. A lot of it doesn't make sense, and I could go on forever on this subject alone with hopes to never intentionally hurt anyone's belief or feelings. I have been a faithful Christian, I needed that image to attach to once, but I'm better now. I'm just like you. Thanks for listening.
- Emily Sparksposted 11 years ago0
I did when I was 8 years old and have never regretted it. God is soooo good to me!
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