Newest Dem. Platform Mimics Trump's Success'?

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    ahorsebackposted 20 months ago

    Well this won't go over well for mid terms or 2020 elections , Or it will depending on how reality numb liberal voters really are ? Released this week by Dem. Minority Whip Steny Hoyer in all of his hypocritical pride.

    "Make It In America Again ", ..................really ?

    " Rebuild infrastructure , improve on education , promote entrepreneurial growth , bring back jobs from overseas , ..........." Sounds an awful lot like MAGA to me , ........ You ?

    I could swear I just listened to a Trump Campaign trail speech !

  2. Live to Learn profile image79
    Live to Learnposted 20 months ago

    I don't see this as a bad thing. Trump apparently hit on the things that mattered most to Americans. This guy could be saying 'yes, I agree but not on the way to address these problems'. If he shows a better action plan then what's wrong with it?

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      ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      Whats wrong with it ? What's right with it is more my point........I mean seriously , Democrats spend three or four  years obstructing Trumps every breath and then virtually copy his agenda as what ......A new direction?

      Gee , why don't they just resign their chairs and say "We're with him from now on !"   And people wonder why others despise the "progressive " party ?

      1. Live to Learn profile image79
        Live to Learnposted 20 months agoin reply to this

        I wouldn't bemoan a baby step in the right direction. Heck. It might catch on.

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          ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

          Ummm......leading from behind I guess ?

          1. Live to Learn profile image79
            Live to Learnposted 20 months agoin reply to this

            Maybe not leading from behind but finally seeing the light.

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              ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

              Okay , should we lighten up on them LTL ?

              1. Live to Learn profile image79
                Live to Learnposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                I don't know horse. Who are them and lighten up in what way? One should always search for truth and not be afraid to speak out, or admit they have heard it.

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    ahorsebackposted 20 months ago

    LTL , I would bet my house on the fact that it will not be the left that comes anywhere near the term " drain the swamp " for one . It will not be the left that establishes term limits for another ,  There is a reason that Trump's polls are rising , ever slowly , and that people are actually leaving the party of the left .

    No , I once was a leftie , yes along time ago .   But it shames me to think that the party that once called for an end to established politics in DC Now doubles down on the absolute growth and regulatory democratic /socialism to take over , In fact , all the left needs at this point is a uniformed leader to roll into DC with tanks and troops and declare a successful coup and not many on this side would be surprised.

  4. Aime F profile image83
    Aime Fposted 20 months ago

    Yes, surely Trump was the first person ever to want to build infrastructure, improve education, and bring back jobs from overseas.

    Those all sound like pretty common (and vague) talking points for politicians across the spectrum.

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      ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      Yet , you belong to a party that obstructs , and No I've never heard a liberal leader talk about reappropriating lost jobs , or improve the infrastructure seriously and then DO something about it ?

      Entitlement programs ? Sure .

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        hard sunposted 20 months agoin reply to this

        To answer your question: Here's just one quick example of Dems attempting to do something about infrastructure. Both parties block other parties' attempts to do productive things.
        http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/03/2 … Senate-GOP

        "Republicans defeated a Democratic amendment to the proposed 2016 budget on Tuesday. It was aimed at kick-starting negotiations between the White House and Congress over a new multi-year program for funding highway, bridge and other infrastructure projects.:

        Also, Obama ran on infrastructure, bringing jobs back from overseas. How succeful was he..probaly not much. Was he likely blocked by Republicans at every attempt...likely. However, Trump definitely did not come up with these campaign issues.
        https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/ … -plan-work

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          ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

          You forget I lived in Sanders state and know all about  his deficit neutral spending, And you actually have the nerve to equate democrats and  fiscally responsibility to begin with  ?  I'm done with that article .

          Obama's infrastructure spending was a welfare project for state highway crews in my experience ,  public spending on public jobs amounting to hardly any improvements . In other words , welfare for public workers .

          1. Live to Learn profile image79
            Live to Learnposted 20 months agoin reply to this

            Have faith horse. Those with a herd mentality will be herded along to support all things if their handlers decide to tell them that's what they are supposed to do.

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              ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

              I'm reminded of reading that Elizabeth Warren says today that a 50 %Taxation rate is better for our general revenue needs .

              1. Live to Learn profile image79
                Live to Learnposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                Well, 50% taxation would certainly bring in more revenue. In the short run.

            2. hard sun profile image89
              hard sunposted 20 months agoin reply to this

              I answered the question presented and ahorse was absolutely, clearly wrong by any standard of truth.

              If you supported Obama you part of the herd. If you support Trump you part of what....the infestation?  He's the president that you follow hook, line and sinker...along with millions of other sheeple. Such silliness this is.

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                ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                The difference is Trump is doing  the work of the people that elected him , Obama told you what and when to think , pushed his OWO agenda and you had no choice but to swallow it hook line and sinker .


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                1. Credence2 profile image81
                  Credence2posted 20 months agoin reply to this

                  Obama was doing the work of those who elected him, me being one of them.

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                    ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                    So ummmmm, he was actually doing nothing ?

              2. Live to Learn profile image79
                Live to Learnposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                The sheeple are the ones who refuse to think for themselves and regurgitate the same rabid sounding hatred again and again. The sheeple are the ones who can't give credit when due. The sheeple are the ones too willfully blind to be unbiased when discussing politics. The sheeple are the ones who will not stand against Marxist behavior that demands conformity, is against freedom of speech and gives a free pass to any action...as long as Trump didn't make it.

                I'm open to support any person from any party if it is in the best interest of the American people. Is Trump perfect? Hell no. Does he make mistakes?  Certainly. But, if Trump walked on water the current sheeple would find something to complain about. Because they do not appear to be able to say anything or do anything other than negative statements about Trump.

                I've always stood up for those I perceive as victims of bullying. I see many on the left right now as a mob of bullies. Lynch mobs starved for blood.

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                  Credence2posted 20 months agoin reply to this

                  the bullies who also won't stand up against authoritarian approaches, and rabid reactionary right wing views and values. So, as I remind you, there is another side of this. And if "common ground" is to be discovered, that has to recognized and appreciated at the start.

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                    hard sunposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                    Live to Learn is clearly trying to say she's a neutral bystander when it comes to Trump, and that's clearly not true.

                    Thanks for the reminder for me also.  There likely is come common ground, but it's not going to start with Trump. Why does it have to start with Trump? I don't like Trump, and that's all that matters to Trump fans.

                    If they would step back, they may see I understand why Trump, I just despise Trump and think the reasoning for getting out of the American mess through Trump is entirely flawed and dangerous.

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                  hard sunposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                  How can the party that's in charge of almost every state and the federal government be the victims here? No worries, cause that's likely soon to end as Trump shows how much  more of a clown he is each day.

                  I see the issues with the left. But, because I'm not a Trump fan, you've been unwilling to listen to my views on that. I can't be against Trump and against the extremist left wing that I think helped give rise to the man and the extremist right wing agenda? No I can't. I'm bullied because I don't stick to loving Trump and hating the left...poor me. LOL, I can play the victim role also.

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                  ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

                  Now ?    They always have been . Liberals all know conservatives by definition are all about having smaller , less expensive , less intrusive , less restrictive government . There can be no denying that ...........which by elimination makes liberals the total admitted opposite of that . Want accountability for elevated activism , government growth , entitlement growth , expensive and expansive government , then they need to accept and take responsibility for that willingly and stop blaming conservatives for  government waste , expansionism and along with these characteristics an incredible amount of  increased  costs of governing .   And , the majority of bullying is  by liberals for more government , more   growth , more cost and they won't stop until they get it .
                  Period !

      2. hard sun profile image89
        hard sunposted 20 months agoin reply to this

        But I'm sure you are all for Trump's announcement of $12 billion in entitlements for a problem he caused. He places the tariffs on and takes cash from the American people to help the ones hurt the most by those tariffs. That sounds closer to authoritarian communism than socialism. But, please, educate me how these entitlements are great.

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    ahorsebackposted 20 months ago

    Lesson # one [1]  For democratic brilliance wondering why no one listens to you anymore ;     You have collectively fried your brains over every single obstruction cause , some worthy ,many unimportant ,  most absolutely made up out of total fantasia .

    Now you wonder why you can't what ?
    Convince people you are serious political conversationalists ?
    Now  you'd like to define  Mediation and  Neutrality ?
    Try again .

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    ahorsebackposted 20 months ago

    It is the left that has suffered the most from nothing more than their own selective outrage .    It is also self inflicted and know that while you spread your blame for all things" Resist ",  'Obstruct ", "TDS ", .............

    "The constant manipulation of facts ................" When in reality the left has not only created an alternative media reality , they have constantly used it to obstruct ,      What I hear NOW in this desperation from the left  is  a plea for understanding , compromise,  , bipartisanship and ...."can't we all just get along ....." ?

    Sure ,  let's see the left first drop the fake media ,  let's see them stop mindless obstruction and phony outrage , politically correct message banning , let's see Google , Face-book , Twitter ,let's see  all of the e-media stop conservative banning , message shadowing ,   It is totally disingenuous OF the left to speak of compromise and understanding while at the same time waging a guerilla war in the media , on the streets , on campuses .........and here .

    1. Live to Learn profile image79
      Live to Learnposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      News flash. This just in. Some on the left don't agree with our principals of presumption of innocence. We're all guilty, of something, until they choose to believe otherwise. That explains the Marxist behavior of the mobs.

      If we could just educate on the concepts our country was founded on this whole business might get settled amicably.

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        ahorsebackposted 20 months agoin reply to this

        "The presumption of innocence "?    What ? From democrats ?

 
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