Giving credit to Trump when it is due

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   Credence2posted 6 years ago

   As so many believe that I am out to condemn the man unfairly, here are a couple of points to the contrary.
   
   1. He decides to with draw from Syria, removing the U.S. from a fruitless and unnecessary involvement in the affairs of others.
   
   2. He and the Republicans actually support a revamp of the penal system as currently in place as being too harsh to non-violent offenders. They are saying that the votes for such reform is on both sides of the isle.
   
   3. Don't let me forget about the Anti Bump-Stock legislation, how many of his right winger supports are pi$$ed by that announcement?
   
   I am pleasantly surprised as the GOP has always had it in for the underdog. So, I wait for the "other shoe to drop" and hopefully it won't. But, I am reminded of an old JAMAICAN proverb, "where there is life, there is hope"

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      promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I get a lot of same abuse as you because I won't blindly support Trump's deeply flawed policies and character.
      
      But I agree with him on some issues like the ones you list. I also agree with him on strong border security. Just not to the point of violating the Constitution.

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      JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      But Credence 2, we're not leaving Syria and the Generals will make sure of that: Didn't you take note of the timing of Bozo Trump's announcement ?? Don't you find the timing suspicious considering the "Flynn Treason" bombshell and the dismantling of the "Trump Foundation" by NY attorney general ?? Don't you think he announced we are leaving Syria in an attempt to knock his extremely bad and detrimental news off the front page
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         Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         That's a very good point and possibly true.

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      Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      LOL. Can't just say 'good job'. You must be Hancock.

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      Ken Burgessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Credence, I think when his time is done, and the media is no longer instigating everyone to hate him to the best of their ability, I think you will still think he was an arrogant arse, who was so boorish as to be impossible to listen to for any length of time.
      
      But I also think you will reflect on what he did, and what he tried to do, and recognize that he was making great efforts to do what was best for the nation, while facing a tidal wave of resistance from the 'establishment' in D.C., the media, and foreign hostiles... much of which he brought on himself, but just as much of it was because he was trying to do what was best for the Nation at a time when the political winds are blowing strong in the direction of Globalism and open borders.

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         JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         Well Ken, we the people certainly don't need the media to "instigate" us into hating Circus Clown Bozo Trump and his family, he does an outstanding job of that on his own when he believe it or NOT, instigates his last remaining followers to vote for an alleged child molester, or calls nazis fine people or insults great American heroes like John McCain and tells Americans that he only likes military personnel who DON'T get captured by our enemies:
         
         If there are STILL individuals out there who have yet to develop a strong hatred or at the very least a strong dislike and disdain for this creepy looking weirdo Russian sympathizer, an immediate extensive psychological exam would be my suggestion:
         
         And there are actually some individuals out there who are surprised that this thing has been a catastrophic FAILURE as illegitimate president ??
         
         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA

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         wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         While I detest the man and the personality he displays so frequently, he has done very little that I badly disagree with.
         
         I think you're right - one day everyone but the far, radical, left will understand that he WAS operating in the best interests of the country, the best (only) way he knew how.

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            JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Well congratulations wilderness, you support a crazy mentally disturbed individual who betrays the USA in broad daylight and has committed so many atrocities in such a short period of time God according to my bible, will NEVER accept him for admission to heaven and that goes for his last remaining followers considering by now, they should have realized the unholy abominable person he truly is:

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               Ken Burgessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               

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               wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               The bigger question may be whether God will allow into heaven those people going about screaming imprecations, calling names like small children and spreading their hatred and darkness onto everyone around.  They won't likely fit well into a society of angels and love.

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         crankaliciousposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I think what we will discover with time is that Trump is a criminal, with an involved history of criminal enterprises.
         
         I also think that Trump will be seen to have changed the political landscape, hopefully making it possible for non-politicians to enter government and serve the American people. That may be his biggest contribution.
         
         In terms of our common dialogue, he's badly damaged that. He's also damaged the office of the Presidency.
         
         His biggest political contribution, if it works out, is his approach to China, which had to be done at some point. His foray into that minefield is extremely SIGNIFICANT and if successors can build on that relationship, it will be a good thing.
         
         I also think he is making a major contribution on illegal immigration. He's forcing people to talk about an issue almost all politicians were taking a duck and cover approach to. Again, it's another issue that somebody was going to have to deal with, so it's significant that he dealt with it head on.

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            Ken Burgessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Right, he is doing things no other politician would have ever dared to do.  The last four presidents have been nothing but a continuation of following the wants and desires of the international organizations (banks , corporations, etc.) that pull the strings of the majority of Congress & especially the Clintons and Obamas that were poor-as-dirt when they got there.
            
            Wrong, on the fact that other non-politicians will get involved and make major waves, unless that someone is another billionaire, there is no way to run for a major political office without the backing of some major billionaire funding.
            
            Trump will be found guilty of some crime because those that normally pull the strings of Presidents and politicians, and those who have spent a lifetime in the Halls of D.C. want him out, want him destroyed... so you are technically right.  But if they wanted him there, and they wanted him to remain, there would have been no investigations, and no 24X7 media attacks on him.
            
            If you know something about the functioning of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party), you know that Xi has to always show strength and show accomplishments. Otherwise, there is the risk for him of getting overthrown by his opponents.
            
            If a trade deal had been done this year, Xi would have had to make massive concessions and lost badly. Concerning the theft of intellectual property (IP), it is highly unlikely that they will stop doing it.
            
            Xi already signed an agreement with President Obama back in 2015 where they agreed on not spying on each other's businesses, and they continued spying regardless. (It is estimated that IP theft from China costs the US $600bn a year and $5tn a year if you take future lost revenue into account).
            
            It is also important to point out that China has anchored cyberespionage into their official strategy as a way of becoming the world's superpower. That is their ultimate goal, and has been for many decades.
            
            Tweaking NAFTA was also needed, and he accomplished that, how well remains to be seen, as it will have to be approved by the House, and the Dems could still betray the people with their stupidity.  Same with any concessions given by China, if there are any.

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               crankaliciousposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               I find it disturbing that in response to a mountain of evidence that Trump has committed numerous crimes, has bilked the taxpayers during his lifetime, has committed campaign finance violations, has slept with one porn star and one Playboy Playmate and paid them off, that in general he has been a horrible human being most of his life and taken advantage of every situation presented to him and has never displayed an ounce of concern for public service - that when faced with all of this, you and others turn to the Deep State, conspiracy explanation.
               
               No matter what the evidence, Trump will be brought down by some dark force.

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